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QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Sep 19, 2011 -> 01:36 AM) I'm still not sure exactly what Cora or Baines have done with the Sox besides 1) being Ozzie's buddy and 2) Camp Cora, which has seen, at best, dubious results. (See Fields, Josh and Viciedo, Dayan at 3B) Beckham, Gordon.

QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Sep 19, 2011 -> 05:20 PM) Looks like it's you, Victory, greg, elrockin, Melissa, and Soil against the world. Good luck with that group.

The admins should build a group of all trolls/Guillen family members that post here and auto-ignore them for everyone. That way if for some reason you do want to lower your IQ, you have to manually remove them from the ignore list.

QUOTE (VictoryMC98 @ Sep 19, 2011 -> 03:11 PM) You do realize this is a 162 game season, players get burned out.. So you are willing to loose those games, just so your UTL player can get some Abs.. You never played the game have you? Starting to think this guy is a member of the Guillen family

QUOTE (Marty34 @ Sep 19, 2011 -> 02:41 PM) Is Dunn the same player Williams signed in December of 2010? Well, he doesn't have an appendix now if that's what you mean.

QUOTE (VictoryMC98 @ Sep 19, 2011 -> 01:06 PM) Vicedo wasn't up yet... If your hitting is anything like your arguing, I'll take Dunn.. Hawk don't get me started, I wish a line drive would shut him up permanently. Lilly, did play allot.. Do you think the Sox had a shot in August? No more troll bait for me, I've had my fill for today. I think my IQ dropped at least 4 points arguing with you.

QUOTE (VictoryMC98 @ Sep 19, 2011 -> 12:59 PM) So he played roughly 16 games... OOOO NOOO out of 28 games... Are you wanting Beckham Benched as well? Morel? Rios? Who replaces these guys if the answer is yes? Posters like you make me weep for society. Rios got 94 AB's in August. Add Dunn, and that's 160 AB's wasted with capable replacements sitting on the bench while we still somehow were in the race. If you don't see how incredibly stupid that is then....well

QUOTE (VictoryMC98 @ Sep 19, 2011 -> 12:54 PM) And play who? Sorry that's a cop out argument... Here is the problem, in a normal team, you bat him 7-8-9th to get out of his slump... on this team you do that.. One inning you have a 3 up and 3 down, from 3/4 here of Beckham, Morel, Rios and Dunn. So you bench the other 3 guys as well? Seriously? Who else could he have played? I dunno, Lilibridge, Vicedo, me, Hawk, literally anyone other than the player having the worst season in the history of the sport. Is that really an earth shattering revelation to you?

QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 18, 2011 -> 11:17 PM) Yeah but he just throws in a sarcastic answer that has nothing to do with anything except designed to get me to fire back and piss me off. In anybody's book that's baiting. People can blast me, but I don't troll for arguments. Arguments happen from things that I post that are in response to the topic at hand, not statements like his designed to anger me. I said Ozzie will be in the Hall of Fame cause he has one title already and figures to win 1 or 2 more in his next 20 or so years of his career. He has tons of years left as a manager, thus the odds are good that he wins a title or two and that, folks, means Hall of Fame for him. He's already got one and he's under 50. He easily will manage another 20 years. Christ do you vastly, vastly overestimate how easy it is to win "a couple more titles".

QUOTE (VictoryMC98 @ Sep 19, 2011 -> 12:45 PM) Ozzie is playing him once a week....Whoppie! Now that the games don't matter, thanks OZ! He had 64 AB's in August. Roughly 64 too many.

QUOTE (Melissa1334 @ Sep 19, 2011 -> 12:34 PM) so ozzie is stupid for playing them so what about all the other teams? ok so some people say dunn sucks becuase he played for ozzie. but ozzie played him everyday. if ozzie benched him right away wouldnt dunn dislike him? i dont understand Who has said this? There's a difference between "Dunn sucks because Ozzie is the coach" and "Ozzie is a f***ing idiot who kept playing him late in the season"

QUOTE (Melissa1334 @ Sep 19, 2011 -> 12:22 PM) yea just how everyone made up their own theory that every player sucks under ozzie and thats why we lost the divison Please link to where this was stated by anyone on this board

QUOTE (Melissa1334 @ Sep 19, 2011 -> 12:07 PM) and its funny how people believe that kw basically said u can sit dunn and rios the rest of the year if u want lol i wonder why every other team that has bad contracts, why they play them everyday too lolz omg totes So, under your ridiculous scenario, this is how it went down: -KW holds press conference calling up De Aza and states that the best players need to play, regardless of salary. -KW and JR have a meeting with Ozzie right after the press conference and tell him under no circumstances is he to bench the highest paid players -Ozzie, being the quiet, team player, "dive on a grenade" kind of guy he is, gladly accepts this and doesn't say word about it publicly. Ozzie has never and will never throw anyone under the bus or speak his mind. There's no possible way he kept playing Rios with De Aza on the bench and kept Dayan in AAA to stick-it to KW. Ozzie is not known for holding grudges or being petty. Are we now realizing how incredibly stupid that is?

QUOTE (Melissa1334 @ Sep 19, 2011 -> 11:46 AM) well obviously kw is going to say that. what do u want him to say. no ozzie must play all these high priced players? its just funny how everyone acts like they know exactly whats going on. u dont know whats going on behind the scenes. It's funnier that there are several people on this board that honestly believe Ozzie was strictly told to play the highest paid players no matter what.

QUOTE (VictoryMC98 @ Sep 19, 2011 -> 10:16 AM) So you give Viciedo and Flowers a night off... Who is there to play DH now? Dayan should have been the full time DH August 1st.

QUOTE (VictoryMC98 @ Sep 19, 2011 -> 08:25 AM) Really, I have no problem with Ozzie stating this.. Ozzie thought he wasn't ready to play everyday in the big leagues.. and Tank is proving Ozzie right. Thank god he kept Dunn in there though. No way Viciedo can hit better than .160

QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 17, 2011 -> 02:19 PM) That piece of trash manager gave you the best moment of your baseball life. A world title. Oh I forgot, the Sox won in spite of him just like the Sox won in spite of all the other managers they've had since 1917. Lifetime Passes, brought to you by Greg. Where you can go from the top of the mountain, slowly lose your mind and start sucking ass at your job, and never worry about job security. You'd be the greatest boss in the world, make 1 big sale and then do whatever the hell you want.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 16, 2011 -> 02:29 PM) Haven't DeAza and Tank played almost every day and Flowers a lot too? Also the young pitchers will keep getting used. I think this is overblown again. He's been playing AJ since he got back and Rios has kept playing, too. But the young guys have been playing. I think the big story is how many games we are going to finish below .500. Sox finally are on the death spiral that could put 'em six under after this KC series and freefalling toward a good draft pick. You managed to contradict yourself within like 1.5 sentences. DeAza/Tank played almost everyday....and Rios kept playing too. Makes sense.

QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Sep 17, 2011 -> 12:03 PM) Don't mind if they are all back. I like a guy who speaks his mind and doesn't back down Yep, throw actual ability out since that's all that matters. Curt Schilling speaks his mind, think we can pick him up as a 3rd starter?

QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 16, 2011 -> 06:26 PM) So let me get your position straight. Does Jensky Cat the manager start Dunn and bat him fourth or fifth next year? Does Cat start Rios? And when do you magically banish them to the bench for good if they pick up right where they left off? End of April, May, when team is five out, six out, seven out?? My point is this is a KW move. He must get rid of them and not handicap the new manager. I know. I know. We can't get rid of them. Nobody (but the Sox) are willing to take them. Good luck to Martinez in sorthing this one out. It will not start or end well because of KW acquiring them to begin with IMO. hahahaha god you're ridiculous man. seriously. ridiculous. None of this matters because of you're nonsensical love for ozzie but what the hell, im drunk. Dunn and Rios both get shots to start next year. Why? Because Dunn produced for 8 years and you hope he had a fluke year. Rios becuase you hope for one last chance to salvage the contract. YOU CAN'T GET RID OF THEM. Why do you not realize that? You can't cut 60 million dollars in contracts, it does not and will not happen. Ever. You give them 2-3 months depending on the standings. If they suck and we're still in the race, bench. If they suck and we're way out of it, then its a coin toss. You know when I do bench Dunn? When we're 3 back in August and he has 2 hit against lefties. You know when I bench Rios? When he's hitting .200 and we have a better defensive CF sitting on the bench with double the hits. Notice I did not defend KW ever here? Do you see that? KW and Ozzie are separate entities. It is in fact possible to criticize one without considering the other. Consider the season in a vacuum that Ozzie was just given. Did he make the right moves with the roster? f***. NO. And THAT is why he should be fired. This argument so f***ing stupid. Jesus

QUOTE (Melissa1334 @ Sep 16, 2011 -> 06:45 PM) kenny should be gone before ozzie for this crap he put together Yuck

QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 16, 2011 -> 04:20 PM) Question for the Oz haters: If the Sox hire Martinez and we still have this veteran team and we go 8-22 to start next season, would you bury him like you have Oz? I mean if we go 8-22 there will be a batch of in-game decisions that failed for sure, like leaving in starters too long or not bringing in the lefty to face a lefty and calling for the bunt too early in the game. How long will you give the new guy a break if the veteran team sucks? It will be difficult to blame Oz anymore if he's in Florida. I stand by my saying this team needs a crotchety old guy to manage the team next year if Oz must go. Jerry Reinsdorf could manage the team for all i care. If Dunn/Rios are batting a combined .300 and playing in late July/August with replacements riding the bench, the manager should be fired on the spot. That's really all there is to it. It's so unbelievably simple. I would have fired Ozzie immediately after he pinch hit Dunn for Lilibridge against the Twins.

QUOTE (Reddy @ Sep 16, 2011 -> 10:19 AM) this is ... just baffling. why do some sox fans lose any modicum of baseball intelligence when the discussion turns to ozzie guillen? remind me how it's not useful to see what you'll get out of youngsters at the major league level when there's nothing riding on it? please - i'd love to hear the answer. Because bums like Dunn and Rios make too much money to ever be benched.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Sep 16, 2011 -> 10:07 AM) W.H.A.T.?!!!!!! He supports Ozzie for another year, ignore it.