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QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Jul 12, 2011 -> 02:23 PM) A possible future. You really think the haul for those 2 is going to be enough to save the franchise? Trade Jackson cause you're not resigning him anyway, keep Q so you can have him and Viciedo (hopefully) tear it up for the rest of this and next year.

QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Jul 12, 2011 -> 02:04 PM) It's condescending because you completely went off of the point in order to minimize their accomplishments, as though every single person on this site isn't aware of their futility in the playoffs. I stated from the very beginning that I was speaking in terms of just the division. I've never heard of any pro sports team being a "dynasty" for winning their division and getting bounced in the playoffs every year.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jul 12, 2011 -> 02:00 PM) well please, be creative and show us how it could work Yeah you keep clamoring for this Greg, its just not going to happen. We're not trading Dunn, period. Nobody will take Rios unless we throw in Danks, Q, Beckham, and maybe Sale for good measure. And trading Juan is pointless, you can just cut him. We don't have a prime Miguel Cabrera to get someone to take Rios with.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 11, 2011 -> 12:38 AM) The talent is nullified by the lousiness of Dunn and Rios. If we'd bat Dunn eighth and get rid of Rios and replace Juan with Dayan, then I think we actually would have a prayer. But Dunn is part of that potential. If you're banking on Dunn hitting .160 for the next 3.5 years, we're in an infinitely worse position.

QUOTE (whitem0nkey @ Jul 9, 2011 -> 06:55 PM) this is why it is an issue. 1.the gay community is fighting to have equal right like straight people and not be 2nd class citizens. 2.how many active gay baseball players do you know? they cant even be themselves and have to pretend to be straight in the public eye. this is the same as some one some one in 1955-1968 writing "GETZ IS BLACK! G.B.," No, no its not.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 7, 2011 -> 06:29 PM) What's laughable is blaming Rios, Dunn and Beckham all on nothing but Walker. Everyone else from a hitting standpoint is doing about what you would expect or better. So if you're not going to change the line up, the most laughable thing would be expecting different results. See Einstein's definition of crazy or look at the Cubs. They changed hitting coaches a couple of times, finally hiring the great Jaramillo. The changed managers. They were stuck with the same core of players. The results are the same. That's the thing that drives me nuts about the endless posts about coaches. Nothing will change. A new coach isn't going to miraculously cure Dunn or Rios, they're veterans and it is what it is. I'll save my hate-energy for the Bears coaching staff that legitimately costs the teams games with their ineptitude. Not for hoping some guy who played in the minors 30 years ago is going to teach a 10 year MLB veteran how to hit 40 homeruns

QUOTE (Real @ Jul 8, 2011 -> 12:26 PM) tired of hearing the very worn out 'i cant believe dunn just forgot how to hit after 9 years' nobody is saying he forgot how to hit, he's just SO f***ing wrapped up in his own mind, overthinking and overanalyzing that its become a detriment to his ability the ONLY way he comes out of this is to keep getting him ABs, unfortunately It's about as worn out as the 7000 "Dunn is the worst player evarrrrr!!!!" posts

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jul 8, 2011 -> 11:44 AM) I'd say he's the worst Sox free agent signing of all time given the contract, results, and expectations. If he does this for 4 years sure, worst Sox signing. I still refuse to believe he forgot how to hit after 9 years of production.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 8, 2011 -> 11:06 AM) Way, way too early to proclaim Dunn to be worst FA signing ever. And won't ever be possible. He could never play another game and it still wouldn't be the worst signing ever.

Why do you get to "remove" those years? That makes no sense.

Pay almost 10 million more over the next 4 years to a guy who has already proven to suck for years for a guy who should be just having a down season/half season? No thanks

QUOTE (nitetrain8601 @ Jul 6, 2011 -> 04:57 PM) No, but honestly, I think Dunn can bounce back. Just not in this atmosphere, with this coaching staff. I've given up all hope on them. Sadly, I've given up all hope that management will can all of them because they haven't done so yet. Especially Walker. We've seen this poo for the past 5 years, nothing has changed except for the players, but it still is not his fault. So Dunn, who's been in the league for 9 years and put up the same numbers for those 9...got to the Sox and the coaching staff ruined his game? Seriously? I get the hatred, but jesus use at least a little common sense.

Just to play devil's advocate...which manager would have enabled Dunn, Beckham, and Q to hit (consistently)? I'll give Rios blows and was a gamble and same with Pierre. But if this team has an average Dunn and the Beckham we saw in '09 and 2nd half of '10, we're leading the division by double digits. And would this same manager be able to keep the same awesomeness of the pitching staff?

All this KW hindsight s*** is getting ridiculous. Needed a big lefty bat coming off 05. He got it. Had a solid CF prospect in the system to replace Rowand, didn't pan out. It's not like he knowingly left CF to what it ended up being. And none of this even brings up how terrible and overpaid Rowand has been since.

QUOTE (chw42 @ Jul 3, 2011 -> 12:05 PM) Hamilton's been good this year. Even though he missed a full month. Which should automatically disqualify him.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jul 1, 2011 -> 11:55 AM) It just further solidifies that he's an idiot....to me at least. That's if you think he means 25 guys hitting .250 and playing horrible defense. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and say he means work ethic.

god damn wide camera angle, thought that was a moon shot

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 30, 2011 -> 04:55 PM) Should he have sent up Morel so that they'd pitch to someone? Or let the pitcher hit? BUT I HATE OZZIE!

http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/mlb/news...ce=MLBHeadlines

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 28, 2011 -> 09:23 AM) MLB can't assure anyone of anything right now. It is in bankruptcy court, not Bud Selig's office. The MLB would just foot the bill. They'll get paid.

QUOTE (oldsox @ Jun 28, 2011 -> 10:03 AM) Giving Dunn $56MM is one of the things wrong with baseball and wrong with our GM. Living in a National League city, I have seen Dunn try to play the game in the last couple of years, and he was awful. No National League team was going to give him any serious money, so his only chance was to get a DH gig in the AL. Who was Kenny competing against? Are there any full time DH's getting anywhere near the money that Dunn is getting? Big Papi maybe, but look at his record. Didn't Thome kind of set the market for this type of player? I just don't get Kenny Williams. Regardless, I'll be at the games in Denver this week. Tonight, I'll be right behind the Sox dugout. At least, I won't have to watch that slug try to play baseball. I don't get these posts, and there were a few. The "I saw Adam Dunn play in person in the NL and he sucked". So you saw him hit 40 homers, 100 RBI and score 100 Runs and thought he sucked? What? And he doesn't need to have a historic 2nd half. He just needs to have an Adam Dunn average 2nd half and the team gets a massive boost. I refuse to believe her forgot how to hit all of a sudden.

No point in really freaking out until the extra year before FA hits. If he's not up within ~2 days of that we have problems.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jun 17, 2011 -> 11:24 AM) Manuel Division Titles: 1 Guillen Division Titles: 2 Manuel Playoff Victories: 0 Guillen Playoff Victories: 12 2005 doesn't count cause we just got lucky that year. Cmon, get with the times

The division destroying and league realignment might be the greatest thing to happen to this organization since '05

we need a new sub forum for Pierre threads