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QUOTE (WCSox @ Apr 12, 2009 -> 11:36 AM) They're off to a great start. I enjoy listening to Harold Reynolds again. He's the one guy I could do without. Annoying as hell to listen to

QUOTE (Y2HH @ Apr 9, 2009 -> 10:16 PM) It's not just a speed thing -- but a type of hitter thing. The point is, in 2005, we didn't *have* to hit HR's to win...on the days the HR's didn't come, we found ways to score with singles, steals, SUCCESSFUL sac bunts, etc....we aren't doing that now, we didn't do it last year, and when we do it now it's by accident because this team lacks fundamentals at the plate. Maybe that's how people see it this way. And the biggest way we were different in terms of speed in 05, was Pods was on base a LOT, and he was causing havok to opposing pitchers who were worrying more about him stealing than making a good pitch. We have "some" speed on the team now, but we have no downright scary speed. And Gooch was pretty fast, he stole some bases, but most of all...he knew how to adapt to hit #2 -- and he did it very well. I really don't know how you could question any of this. In 05 we had a legit #1 #2. We haven't since. And this whole list of yours is meaningless: Everyone from 05 still on this team is 4 years older than they were in 05, everyone is now 4 years slower. And none of us saying this are even comparing position to position speed based on 05 vs 09 -- it's just an OLD slow team now for the entire middle of the base clogging order. Pods alone makes the 05 team faster than this entire team combined. Yes, pitching won for us in 05, so did timely hitting, laying down the bunt when we needed it, and getting the big HR when it mattered. Right now the only thing we can rely on is getting the HR, because we can't bunt, we can't steal...and no opposing pitcher is afraid of us doing so. And that right there is where your entire argument loses any sort of validity with me. Pods did not win us a ring. Pitching did, there is no other argument against it. Better OBP, BA, HR, TB, RBI, R in 2008 over 2005....Guess what was better in 2005 over 2008.....drumroll......every pitching statistic.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Apr 9, 2009 -> 10:12 PM) More than half our lineup has speed yet people are still calling us "slow." Its a bad cop out by people that are just frustrated with 2 of the probably 60+ losses we will have this season. yeah, i don't get it. People need to start using some god damn common sense, jesus. Would you rather have our bats be a little slow to start or have out pitcing give up 8 runs a game? Me personally, I'll take lights out pitching since the hitting will come around eventually. People seem to not realize how special our pitching staff seems to be right now: A solid 1-2-3, and possibly a solid 4-5 with a 6 ready and waiting. One of the best closers in the game, one of the best lefty/setup men in the game, a solid longman/6th starter, and between Dotel/Linebrink another solid 7th or 8th guy. What other f***ing team can say that? I don't even like talking about how sick our pitching looks because I don't want to jinx (or is it Jenks?) them. Our hitting will come around, and when it does, we will have a special team.

QUOTE (Y2HH @ Apr 9, 2009 -> 09:00 PM) This is the same feast or famine built offense we jettisoned after 2004 (Magglio, Lee, Valentine, Thomas, etc.) where we went with more defense/speed in 05, won the World Series, and gradually returned to that same offense, some due to age (Dye has slowed considerably), injuries, etc. My point is, we are right back where we started in 2004. Station to station softball where we will go through spurts of scoring 4-5 runs in 3 games, and then we'll score 15 runs in 1 game, even though scoring 2 would have sufficed. I know it's only been three games, and I do hope they proove me wrong/dumb, but I see no consistency coming from this team. We will either rake, or we will do #@$!. Everybody says this s***...and I just don't see it. How was '05 different from '09 speed lineup wise? 2005 Speed/non slow - LF, CF, 2b 2009 Speed/non slow - LF, CF, 2b, SS, 3b Fields is faster than Crede - 09 Xei is faster than Uribe - 09 Getz is faster than Gooch - 09 Wise/Anderson is faster than Rowand - 09 Pods was faster than TCQ - 05 Thome vs. Everett/Hurt = wash AJP, Dye, PK were never "fast" Those don't add up to us being "slower" this year. We won the WS in 2005 because of pitching....thats all there is to it, Pods/Rowands "grindyness" did not win us a ring. We hit homeruns and our pitching shut everybody the f*** down, simple as that. People need to stop romanticizing that we were winning every game with a god damn bunt, steal, and suicide squeeze.....it did not happen like that.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 7, 2009 -> 08:39 AM) August 8th is the OFFICAL DATE, for the WSI/Soxtalk softball game, part III. Southsider2k5 Northsidesox72 Chisoxfn shipps kapkomet The Beast Molto Bigsqwert robinventura23 TitoMB345 (if you guys don't mind..) SouthsideDon48 Jenksycat Keep on signing up if people are interested!!! Don't let the number of people deter you. There are always last minute cancelations and changes, not to mention, no matter how many people want to play, everyone will get into the game!!! Did this thread get re-created? I posted a while ago here and it is gone....hmmm Count me in, OF or 1B since I'm a hefty lefty.

QUOTE (TitoMB345 @ Apr 9, 2009 -> 12:26 AM) I still think Wise will be our CF and leadoff hitter come June. Ozzie is the most stubborn manager in the league. If he does what he is doing now...which if you look at his career he will....there is not a chance in hell he makes it out of April. Last year they gave Alexei a couple weeks he was done, and they were high on him in ST. Wise will be gone 100% certain, its just a shame that we have to put up with him to start the season off.

QUOTE (Princess Dye @ Apr 8, 2009 -> 11:42 PM) BA and Wise are both bad. People keep bringing this up....yes they're both bad, but I'm taking the glove and faint possibility of hits, neither of which you get with Wise. This will be the lineup by May 1st: getz fields q thome dye pk xei ajp BA

QUOTE (southsideirish71 @ Apr 8, 2009 -> 10:47 PM) How many walks did he draw in the spring, how many walks does he draw overall. Wise is what he is, a career minor leaguer, who gets most of his OBP from his bat. He is not particularly good at hitting, can't field all that well. And is probably a 4th OF, on a mediocre team. Here, for some crazy reason he is a starter and a leadoff guy. I figure he will get destroyed over the next month. They will move him from leadoff, and put him down at 9th for his laughable defense. Brian will get spot starts when Liriano, Lester, or some other lefty comes up to face the sox. Then of course its back to punt, kick and run the Dewayne Wise attack. Yep, and the best part is gonna be when they give BA 6 AB's against Liriano/Lester and he goes 1-6..... after Wise goes 0-April..... I guarantee they say "SEE BA ISN'T THE ANSWER!!! HE CAN'T HIT!!!!!" I love this team, but the way they refuse to admit they are wrong is frustrating as hell.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Apr 7, 2009 -> 05:31 PM) I was getting at that earlier. Unless Wise performs a miracle and becomes Rickey Henderson Jr. he's going to get quite a beatdown from the home crowd, which really is unfair and I hope KW and Ozzie realize that they are the people responsible for this and the booing is indirectly directed (if that makes any sense) at them. Dewayne Wise, who seems like he's a pretty good guy, is going to have to go through hell because of their decisions. Do Dewayne a favor and move him to 8th or 9th in the line up if he must play. He will have a lot lifted off his shoulders and will give him a better shot at success. The guy is going to try to change those boos to cheers and try to hit 3 or 4 homers in one AB. That will not work. Its only going to get uglier if they keep him at the top. I didn't boo after the first K, I didn't boo after the 2nd K, I didn't boo after the 3rd K. I boo'd after he failed to execute something that he should be able to do 100% of the time if he isn't going to hit and after Fields did it perfectly previously. And in any case, I'm booing Oz for refusing to play Anderson because of some s*** that happened 3 years ago. My prediction: Getz will be leading off by May 1st and Anderson will be the everyday CF batting either 2 or 9...which is the way it should have been from day 1.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Apr 6, 2009 -> 11:22 PM) What makes you think that exactly? Is it the 26 games he's pitched since 2004? Is it because he's older than Buehrle, yet has pitched about half as many innings? Oh and he's 3 years older than Mark. His 4.32 ERA mostly in the NL isnt exactly impressive either. Oh wait, Matt Clement, who just retired because of injuries over the last 3 seasons (like Pavano), pitched about 400 more innings than Carl, with a better BAA. Pavano should be considered a #5 AT BEST. was supposed to be green I think the indians rotation will be 2nd worst in the division ahead of detroit. I think the sox have easily the best pitching staff in the division

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Apr 6, 2009 -> 11:02 PM) I think the Indians rotation is going to be a lot better than people here think. They are a close #3 behind the Sox, with the Twins being #1. Yeah Cliff Lee will def. win 22 games again and Pavano is gonna be a solid #3

QUOTE (TLAK @ Apr 6, 2009 -> 07:40 PM) What group do you think will deliver the most well thrown games over a 162 game season? I'm not talking Cy Young winners or great peripherals, but good starts where your team has a chance to win the game. That's how you win a division. Indians C. Lee F. Carmona C. Pavanohahah Who? Who? Royals G. Meche Z. Greinke K. Davies Who? Who? Tigers J. Verlander E. Jackson Who? Who? Who? Twins *DL S. Baker is supposed to be back in 1-2 weeks. F. Liriano K. Slowey G. Perkins N. Blackburn Who? White Sox M. Buehrle J. Danks G. Floyd J. Contreras B. Colon We have the best 1-2-3 and potentially dominant 1-5 if C+C do anything remotely good. Twins seem solid like always, but having no offense will hurt them. How all the "experts" have the Indians as "clear" favorites baffles me. Lee will not repeat what he did, Carmona lost it, Pavano #3? Really?

QUOTE (DukeNukeEm @ Apr 5, 2009 -> 12:37 PM) I think the excitement level is really attached to the possibilities that Cutler gives the Bears. Chicago doesn't know what a franchise QB looks like, and now that we have one it makes us believe everything about our team will become exponentially better. I think you'll expectations become a little bit more reasonable by the time the season starts, but right now people have to realize that Jay Cutler alone is not going to win us Superbowls. The Broncos didn't even make the playoffs last year. Because they had a pop-warner defense. We have the advantage of a better D and RB over the Broncos, while they dust us in WR. If we pick up a decent WR we will be loads better than Denver was just because of the D and RB.

So we can for sure use tickets for Mondays game on Tuesday now right? Just wanna make sure I don't get screwed out of my tickets

QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Apr 5, 2009 -> 01:13 PM) I happen to agree with all the experts after all, if history tells us anything Carl Pavano is awesome and healthy, Hafner is certain to bounce back, and Kerry Wood health is unquestionable. I also love how both are young pitchers (Danks, and Floyd) come into question, when the twins rotation has 5 pitchers with equal upside, but the same damn question marks that should hamper their values. Also, if I have to hear one more article about them "playing baseball the right way" I’m going to do something drastic Wait....are you telling me you don't think the Twins will hit .350 with 2 outs and RISP????!!?! How can they not? Especially with Mauer out, their lineup will be scary

QUOTE (lostfan @ Apr 2, 2009 -> 08:51 PM) I disagreed vehemently with the "whatever it takes" part though. Still do. Like, say in order to get this done we needed to offer another first... I'd say no. Since we have such an amazing track record of drafting quality first round picks

QUOTE (hawkubes @ Apr 2, 2009 -> 09:03 PM) Why not??? How bout cause he's a whiny lil biatch? Forget it. Broncos fan? hahaha

QUOTE (Melissa1334 @ Mar 30, 2009 -> 01:47 PM) well the tigers got josh anderson so we can forget about him damn, what'd they need him for they already got Granderson

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Mar 30, 2009 -> 12:47 PM) I'm a BA fan, and this will be his first legitimate shot since 2006. Its all up to him. If he blows or gets hurt, I will move on. I'm going with BA to be the Quentin of 2009. He won't put up the numbers Quentin did last year, but I think BA will put up the numbers KW thought he would. .270 BA 25 homers. Not if he only gets to bat against lefties because journeyman wise is the "clear" leadoff guy. Hopefully wise will do so bad that they have to go with BA full time and give him a(nother) legitimate shot.

"They don't mic up backups" "I'm gonna go with Michael Mcdonald or Wham....baby babyyy" haha

maybe we can trade all these prospects for Hanley in a year or 2 when the marlins have to get rid of him due to having a 10mil payroll

QUOTE (Jimbo's Drinker @ Mar 8, 2009 -> 03:52 AM) please move to the "im drunk in 2009" thread. ther is no proof that I am drunk. What if i truly felt that Ownes would f***in' rake this year and you just tossed that asside?

HR: Owens RBI: Ownes OBP: Ownes Hits: Ownes SB: Thome Wins: Ohesn ERA: Owens Bullpen ERA: Mcdoubal amnd my thoughts? THIS.TEAM.IS.DEAD.

QUOTE (fathom @ Mar 5, 2009 -> 04:23 PM) Groin Is Definitely Pulled? Just kidding! hahaha, one can dream.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Mar 5, 2009 -> 04:16 PM) Looking at just internal guys (which isn't the KW world of course, but what the heck), look at the team we could have in 2011 (and some in 2010), in terms of solid young talent... C Flowers 1B Viciedo 2B Beckham (interchangeable) SS Ramirez (interchangeable) 3B Fields LF Shelby CF Danks RF Quentin DH Allen And behind them on the bench or if the above fail or are traded: Lillibridge (CF, SS, 2B) Getz (UT IF) Miranda (SS, 2B) Kuhn (SS, 2B) Retherford (3B) Dubler © Kroeger (OF) Martinez (OF) SP Buehrle SP Danks SP Floyd SP Poreda SP one from: Marquez, Cassel, Eggy, Richard, Harrell, etc. And whomever in the pen. Plus I am probably missing some guys. That is a lot of very good talent. I'm psyched. Thought Burrly was done after 2010