ThunderBolt

Here's two things i like about the Jones thing. "Guillen and several members of the Sox's staff were encouraged after Andruw Jones weighed in at 221 pounds - about 25 pounds lighter than last year. Jones is determined to regain playing time in center field as well as share the designated hitter duties with Mark Kotsay.: http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/...hout-damon.html

Andruew Jones is really on top of things. "Why did Andruw Jones come to camp so early? He thought the whole team was supposed to report today. Seriously. #whitesox" http://twitter.com/ChuckGarfien/status/9448988186

QUOTE (Kenny Hates Prospects @ Feb 22, 2010 -> 11:03 AM) Sub the word "players" with "roiders" and I'll agree. I was shocked by how little he was last year. He used to be built like a monster, he shrank dramatically.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Feb 22, 2010 -> 11:52 AM) Hopefully I wasn't being too dramatic there. The way this offense is set up, key # 1, 2, 3 and 6 are named Carlos Quentin. Key #4 is Alex Rios. Key # 5 is Beckham. etc. If we get something useful from Jones, it'll win us some games. That would have been the same with Damon. But the real question is, can we get an MVP type year from the guy who should be our offensive MVP. If he gets hurt again, we have less margin for error than we would if we'd signed someone else, but it all really turns on him again. Nah, Balta you’re one of the most reasonable guys here. I’m referring to the people who aren’t at all bothered by Damon not signing here, the people who really think that Andruw Jones Is going to stumble across the fountain of youth and put up 33 homers next year. I see no reason to think that after embarrassing himself on a very public stage in LA, that Jones wouldn’t give it his all to redeem himself in Texas. He didn’t and he’s running out of chances.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Feb 22, 2010 -> 11:40 AM) Glad you enjoyed. It's both knees now, not just one. Anyway, to make point more detailed than just the one-liner...Jones may have more mileage on his tread than most OF's since he started playing everyday CF at a very young age, but 30-32 is not typically the age where OF's start to fall off seriously, that tends to happen closer to 36. When we picked up JD, he'd just turned 31, and he had his best year with us at age 32 in 2006, for example. It's possible that Jones's work ethic, that his specific injuries, that how long he's played CF will have taken more of a toll on his body than on JD and he'll just completely bomb once again like he did in LA. But I can at least find reason for hope. The issue here is the empirical evidence that shows Jones has fallen off before the age of 33. It's pure conjecture to assume that we're going to get some kind of youth movement from him, the numbers don't add up. I'm hopeful for him, and i like him a hell of a lot more in the DH spot then i do Kotsay, but i see no reason for dramatic optimism.

QUOTE (kitekrazy @ Feb 22, 2010 -> 11:37 AM) I'm glad that Sox didn't fork over that kind of money for an aging ballplayer that everyone will blame Greg Walker when age catches with a player. He night not be as good because he isn't surrounded by all that talent like he had in New York. You do realize that this aging player would have replaced a platoon of two aging players at the DH, right? And that this aging players has been putting up consistently great numbers even in great lineups, while Jones crapped out in a great lineup for the Rangers, and Kotsay was never up to snuff for the Red Sox?

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Feb 22, 2010 -> 11:21 AM) 32, going on 33 in April = mid 30's? Now I'm suddenly feeling old. Thanks. (Going to go ice my knees). Really, Captain Semantics? Fine, i'll edit the damn post, but you look out for that knee for me.

QUOTE (westsidesoxfan @ Feb 22, 2010 -> 11:11 AM) I find it hard not to be optimistic about a guy with so much potential. Same with Rios. Yes Rios had a pretty much awful year all of last year, but you know what kind a special player that he can be, especially in CF. Jones just needs to stay healthy, and with him in shape I don't see that being much of an issue. If we can get Joe Crede numbers out of him, and have him get hits in crucial situations, he'll be successful. What potential does Andruw Jones have? He's met that potential, the man's in his EARLY-30's! He's moved past his prime. The best we can hope for is him salvaging something of the player he once was. He's not some bust of a prospect biding his time to break out, he's a washed up veteran with no options, but 500K for one year this late in his career.

QUOTE (La Marr Hoyt HOF @ Feb 21, 2010 -> 10:14 PM) Rios completely sucks, as you will learn - again. Worst move KW ever made... I'm interested in learning that, because all the research i've done says the opposite. We should probably learn from what happened with Swisher before we write someone off over one bad year.

I love Spring Training, i love everything about it. Everyone's an optimist come spring.

QUOTE (beckham15 @ Feb 21, 2010 -> 07:02 PM) im taking the andruw jones situation as a plus for us.....he cant do any worse than Dewayne Wise did last year although i wouldn't throw all of that blame on him when Ozzie kept throwing him out there every day He doesn't have to do worse then Wise, he has to do better then Thome. Doing better then Wise is up to Rios.

QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Feb 21, 2010 -> 06:45 PM) Who is in that last picture with AJ? Doesn't look like Flowers, and it certainly is not Castro. Phegley? Donny Lucy.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 21, 2010 -> 09:20 AM) I don't think Anderson is going to be able to be signed for this season. Getting the citizenship stuff straight takes a while. I'm trying to track down an answer to that. I know he's established residency in the DR, and he is on the open market, but i really don't have a clue as to if his papers have checked out yet. Hopefully, Cubano can stop by and enlighten us. All i know is that he'd be a perfec fit for the rotating DH theory.

QUOTE (JPN366 @ Feb 21, 2010 -> 03:48 PM) This move actually leaves a surprising dearth of shortstops suited to play in Charlotte. Brent Lillibridge may be spending a lot of time in Charlotte this year. Otherwise, it's Robbie Hudson or Justin Fuller. I'm hoping we adress this in the draft. We need a bit more depth at short.

QUOTE (elgonzo4sox @ Feb 21, 2010 -> 03:25 PM) I think the Twins, as they proved with the Crede signing, have Sox envy. It worked for them last year, didn't it? Crede wasn't a huge factor for them, but they certainly don't regret signing him.

QUOTE (Brian @ Feb 21, 2010 -> 01:41 PM) I hated EVERY character in that movie. I had an issue with how much s*** Seth Rogen took without any vindication in this film. He was clearly the most sensible one, but the movie treated him like dirt.

"KW thought about approaching Dye, but Sox need for LH bat is greater." about 1 hours ago from mobile web http://twitter.com/MDGonzales I find it interesting that it wasn't phrased as, "need for LH bat was greater" (Kotsay) I'd love to hear it from Ozzie to see if this is an indicator of a change in perspective from the rotating DH.

I saw Funny People yesterday. The 2nd half of that film was incredibly weak. It was probably Adam Sandler's best turn since Punch Drunk Love, but the character was taken in some radically unlikable directions.

Honestly, if i'd of seen Kevin Smith on an airplane after seeing the trailers for his new movie, Cop Out, i would have escorted him off the flight myself.

I don’t think statistical projections are the end –all—be-all of baseball predictions. I do think they lead to the right direction. And the directions they point the White Sox offense towards are not positive ones.

QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ Feb 21, 2010 -> 12:44 PM) Good Lord, 692 runs. That projection is about right, but it's painful to look that. Hey, look on the brightside. That's six runs better then the Royals offense last year.

QUOTE (WCSox @ Feb 21, 2010 -> 12:32 PM) I can buy the 4 wins part, but nobody knows how MIN is going to play this year. If MIN is a 92-win team, Damon himself isn't going to pull the Sox that close. This is hyperbole. Damon absolutely would've helped, but let's not kid ourselves about him being some sort of an offensive game-changer. Offensively, Damon is basically a late '90's Ray Durham with less speed. That's a really nice player to have on one's roster, but not the kind of guy who will change the offensive output from worst in the league to middle of the pack. i'll repeat so that you can stop claiming that Damon's offensive input would be insignifcant. Without Damon our average offense projections HR’s : 170 Runs: 692 Without Kotsay and With Damon Hr’s: 182 R’s: 754 Without Nix and with Damon Hr’s: 177 R:: 744 That's a big step in the right direction.

QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Feb 21, 2010 -> 02:06 AM) McLouth would be great, but probably cost too much. I REALLY want KW to go get Gerardo Parra from AZ. Someone who probably won't cost very much considering most of the people on this site have probably never even heard of him. I've heard of him, and i like him. But the D-backs do too, and i don't see them giving him up.

Why is Ozzie not an option?

QUOTE (bucket-of-suck @ Feb 20, 2010 -> 10:55 PM) Please tell us how this team as a collective is "lacking power". Eight of the nine hitters in the Sox lineup are capable of hitting 15+ HRS. Minnesota can't claim that. Detroit can't claim that. Whenever you're ready... I was bored so for s***s and giggles I decided to average the Bill James, Marcel and CHONES projections for the 2010 White Sox players and see where the statistical consensus was for us to land in homeruns and runs. The results: HR’s : 170 Runs: 692 My Conclusion: For those of you were hoping that this organization would be forced to give up the majority of it's prospects come trade deadline, you're about to get your wish!!! Also, if you were wondering about your, "Eight of the nine hitters in the Sox lineup are capable of hitting 15+ HRS". prediction, Bucket-Of-Suck. If we factor in the platoon as one hybrid player (Albeit, an awful one) we get 6 of the 9 starters projected to hit 15+ homers. The Breakdown: AJ- HR:13-R:58 Konerko 26-69 Beckham- 17-76 Teahen-14-69 Ramirez-17-70 Q-25-75 Rios-17-77 Pierre-2-59 Kotsay- 5-31 Jones-15-45 Castro-9-22 Nix-10-41 Vizquel-2-28