ThunderBolt

I agree with Greg and Heads that we should have replacements in mind for the guys we're suggesting getting rid of. I'm on record saying that i'd like KW to stick around. That being said, you could do a lot worse than Rick Hahn and Dave Martinez if you were looking for a pairing of guys who could lead the White Sox organization into a new era.

Anyone remember when Danks struggled after the Sox threw him into the fire? The kid faced adversity and then overcame it. I have little doubt that Dan Hudson can do the same thing. He has the stuff, he just needs the mindset.

Seth Loman is having another great year. He really should be with the Barons by now.

This team is winning in spite of Ozzie, not because of him. And if they lose this division it will be in large part due to the choices he made and the team he asked for at the start of the year.

I assumed all three of these players were either facing prison or a suspension from the header. I'm glad i was wrong.

QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Jul 25, 2010 -> 09:55 PM) Its a cycle though, you draft well, you develop all star players, they leave in FA because you have farm system depth, you gain draft picks, you replenish your farm system depth. Repeat. You keep your MLB talent level along with your payroll and the amount of flexibility for trades, etc. The moneyball Athletics did this to perfection. Draft, Develop, Compete, Reload, Develop, Compete.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 25, 2010 -> 09:55 PM) I haven't had to say this in almost two months, but if Steve Stone has any connections with this team, he believes Rick Hahn will be the GM in the not-so-distant-future. A move like this needs to be coupled with the end of the Ozzie era. It would be disastrous to handcuff a saber guy like Hahn with a field manager like Ozzie.

QUOTE (CWSOX45 @ Jul 25, 2010 -> 09:51 PM) Alexi Ramirez and Dayan Viciedo were both signed out of Cuba. That works for me. We also didn't have to wait a long time for them to develop, Ramirez was major league ready and Viciedo wasn't far behind.. It's comforting that our fool of a manager refuses to even play one of these guys.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jul 25, 2010 -> 08:33 PM) I've mentioned a few times that both Ozzie and KW would get majorly exposed if we didn't have the luxury of playing in what mostly has been a weak division since they've been together. We go into EVERY season with holes and the common consensus is "Wait until the deadline and will upgrade." We wouldn't be able to do that in the AL east. It'd be nice to go INTO a season without holes. Yes, I know this isn't fantasy baseball and you're not going to be loaded at every position. But there were options out there. We dropped the ball just because. This is a lot better than I could ever say it. This organization is far too comfortable resting on its laurels hoping that problems work themselves out. This team didn’t have to be put in the situation where losing one piece of the pitching puzzle virtually eliminates them from the trading market. A market that they vowed to search when their doomed to failure DH experiment, inevitably failed. If we lose this division, it’s a because of problems of our own choosing.

Ozzie is the only one who truly needs to go. The sooner the better. The lineups he puts out there on a daily basis cannot be defended as anything other than a man operation not from a place of logic, but by gun. The way he approaches running a baseball team is self-defeating. I want a manager who puts his team in the best position to win, not one that positions the team towards failure.

QUOTE (chw42 @ Jul 25, 2010 -> 07:49 PM) Because you're paying Juan Pierre already. To replace Pods, no less. It’s counterintuitive and doesn't dramatically improve the team.

I really hope there’s an ultimatum here that Ozzie sinks or swims with the DH idea. I’d hate to see his lineups getting run out there for the next few years.

Does anyone have any clue as to what Beckham was doing bunting? Neither do i.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 25, 2010 -> 06:35 PM) Don't worry, he'll have hell to pay if they don't make the postseason. That's just the thing: he probably won't. Ozzie has torpedo'd this team, but the team has played past it. I've got to hand it to the guys.

Who is running the show in AZ now that Byrnes is gone/ Becasue Byrnes would at least have gotten something worth having long-term.

What a stupid approach. That's not how you win baseball games.

Work him, Paulie. Get your pitch.

Thatta boy, Rios!!!

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jul 25, 2010 -> 06:19 PM) I agree with you. But Juan's defense has been spectacular this year. That's obviously given him more of a pass. But I hated the trade from the start. Only Kalapse hated it more than I did. I tolerate Pierre because he plays a great LF. I despise nearly every other aspect of his game.

I don't have a problem with T-MAC as long as he understands his role on this team. The minute he protests he should be dropped like it's hot, but as risks go it's a pretty decent one to take.

ALRIGHT!!!

Really. all the Sox had to do was claim Cust after he was DFA"d and then given him a trial run if/when Kotsay didn't work out. That's the easiest solution (other then Thome) to the massive problem that Ozzie and KW created for us.

Alright, Pierre. Keep it going, Alexei

That’s just embarrassing.

Another wasted opportunity.