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Y2Jimmy0
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What? They don’t need 16 position players. It’ll be 16 pitchers at a minimum and maybe 17. There’s no reason not to carry that amount
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I feel like they need another lefty. I would've had Adalberto Mejia on there but he's not an option currently.
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I think the White Sox were pretty much down to one spot back in March so this might not be hard to predict. I'm thinking they'll carry 16 pitchers and 14 position players initially. Starting Pitchers Lucas Giolito Dallas Keuchel Dylan Cease Reynaldo Lopez Gio Gonzales Carlos Rodon Michael Kopech Relievers Alex Colome Kelvin Herrera Steve Cishek Aaron Bummer Jace Fry Evan Marshall Jimmy Cordero Carson Fulmer Ross Detwiler Starting 9 1. Tim Anderson SS 2. Yoan Moncada 3B 3. Jose Abreu 1B 4. Yasmani Grandal C 5. Edwin Encarnacion DH 6. Eloy Jimenez LF 7. Nomar Mazara RF 8. Luis Robert CF 9. Leury Garcia 2B Bench James McCann (C) Zack Collins (C) Danny Mendick (INF) Adam Engel (OF) Cheslor Cuthbert (UT)
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The White Sox have room to add 16 more names. Zack Burdi, Matt Foster, Bernardo Flores, Seby Zavala, Micker Adolfo and Blake Rutherford are all on the 40 man and not on the initial 44. Some others who seem like options for the next 16: Luis Gonzalez, Gavin Sheets, Jake Burger, Jonathan Stiever, Garrett Crochet, Kodi Medeiros, Jacob Lindgren. That leaves these guys unaccounted for right now: Jaycob Brugman, Daniel Palka, Alex McRae, Adalberto Mejia, Bryan Mitchell, Brady Lail. Jared Kelley, Matthew Thompson and Andrew Dalquist could be options as well
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He means if they went over. They could’ve gone 5% over which is like $380K and then paid a 75% overage tax on that amount. They didn’t do that this year. Honestly though, this draft only cost Reinsdorf $360K right now. Rest of the bonus is deferred
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Auburn southpaw Bailey Horn was the 3rd best player in the Sox draft class. They signed him for $150K. I wrote about him here: https://www.futuresox.com/2020/06/28/white-sox-give-fifth-rounder-bailey-horn-third-biggest-signing-bonus-of-their-2020-draft/
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This is pretty much what I'm looking at for today. The full 40 man roster will be part of the 60 player pool. I'm guessing Lambert goes on 45 day DL whenever that's allowed. Seby Zavala and Jose Ruiz could have 40 man spots in jeopardy. These are the options in my opinion for the other 20 players. Position Players Nick Madrigal Andrew Vaughn Gavin Sheets Luis Gonzalez Jake Burger Cheslor Cuthbert Nicky Delmonico Daniel Palka Andrew Romine Carlos Perez Jaycub Brugman Yolbert Sanchez Pitchers Codi Heuer Tyler Johnson Jonathan Stiever Garrett Crochet Will Kincanon Jared Kelley Andrew Dalquist Matthew Thompson Jacob Lindgren Drew Anderson Ross Detwiler Tayron Guerrero Brady Lail Alex McRae Kodi Medeiros Adalberto Mejia Bryan Mitchell
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Does anyone really care that much? This idea never really moved the meter for me. I think the movie is terrible though.
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Sox planning on having fans present in small amounts
Y2Jimmy0 replied to southsider2k5's topic in Pale Hose Talk
This isn't actually the truth though so, no. When was it denied? I've heard similar to Danny. He never reported that it was happening. He said that the White Sox are planning on having fans in the stands this year that's true. So are the Cubs. The governor is allowing it at 20% capacity. The mayor is not as of now. They won't have games for 4 weeks though. If Illinois' numbers stay where they are and Lightfoot allows it, the Sox will absolutely let 8K people into the ballpark as another revenue stream. One month from now, filling a stadium in Illinois at 1/5 capacity won't seem as crazy as it one month ago. -
Top 3 Things You’re Looking Forward To
Y2Jimmy0 replied to KnightsOnMintSt's topic in Pale Hose Talk
1. Robert 2. Kopech 3. Watching Yoan Moncada play baseball -
The rumor is that he was going at 13 to San Francisco if the Sox didn't take him. He didn't really have any incentive to agree to an underslot deal.
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They didn't have to. I think 5% over was like $388K. That's why I was expecting a better player in round 3 and 4. They could've easily signed 3 guys for $150K or so instead of what they did. They needed to make sure they had the bonus slots for Kelley though I was suppose.
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FS: White Sox select prep RHP Jared Kelley with 47th pick, signed
Y2Jimmy0 replied to Y2Jimmy0's topic in Pale Hose Talk
There was nothing to worry about in this case. The Sox met his asking price prior to draft. Has been a done deal. -
Jared Kelley signed for $3 million and Bailey Horn is getting $150K. The White Sox saved Reinsdorf $7K and didn't go over their pool. I'm sure he's pleased.
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Josh Norris of Baseball America joined us recently. We talked about the White Sox draft, some thoughts on expanded fall league and Baseball America's top 30 list which includes lots of young guys: https://www.futuresox.com/2020/06/24/futuresox-podcast-ft-josh-norris-of-baseball-america/
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We talked to Garrett Crochet on the podcast this week. He was very good. Lots of good stuff in here: https://www.futuresox.com/2020/06/26/futuresox-podcast-ft-lhp-garrett-crochet/
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The players do not get a year of service unless they play the 61/66 days. For example, if a player plays in 40/60 games, that player would receive .66 of 1 season of service. Anyone who stays in player pool all year, and doesn't play in any games, won't receive service time. It's the 40 man roster plus 20 additional names. Guys can be removed from player pool but they can't be added again once they're removed.
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White Sox select LHP Garrett Crochet at #11, also, he signed
Y2Jimmy0 replied to southsider2k5's topic in Pale Hose Talk
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Dunning, Basabe, Rutherford are already on there because they are on the 40 man roster. It's the 40 man roster plus 20 additional players. I'd think guys like: Vaughn, Madrigal, Stiever, Gonzalez, Delmonico, Cuthbert, Mejia, Sheets, Tyler Johnson, Heuer, Detwiler, Crochet. That leaves plenty of room though. Could see Jake Burger. I wonder if they'd put Kelley, Thompson and Dalquist on just to get a look at them. It's going to be fascinating.
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So I'm wrong about this. Teams can add/subtract players from their 60 man player pool as the season goes on. I didn't know that. So for example, if the White Sox wanted like Mychal Givens of the Orioles and Baltimore wanted a prospect from rookie ball, the Sox could just release a guy like Ross Detwiler, add the rookie ball player and trade him for Givens apparently.
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I thought there would be some trade activity during this 2020 season. The deadline moved to August 31. There are plenty of teams who could be looking to dump off some assets. It might be harder to do with the transaction rules reported by Mark Feinsand though: https://www.mlb.com/news/mlb-roster-transaction-rules-for-2020-season Can teams make trades? Yes, though not every player in an organization can be dealt in 2020. The Trade Deadline this season has been moved from July 31 to Aug. 31, but unlike years past, teams will be limited in which players they can deal. Only the 60 players in a team’s Player Pool will be eligible to be traded, limiting the number of Minor League players who will be moved this summer. Players acquired via trade must be assigned to a team’s Player Pool. This doesn't make any sense to me. Look at a team like Kansas City. They may want to trade Ian Kennedy. Why should they be limited to someone in a team's 60 player pool?
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He needs 6 years of major league service to become a free agent. It's effectively a way to manipulate service team. .66 in 2020 Full seasons in 2021, 2022, 2023, 2024, 2025 would leave him with 5.66 years of service. Sox would effectively get a 7th year of service in 2026.
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Adding to this and maybe Harold can help me out here. I heard the White Sox went after some pretty unrealistic targets in the NDFA process. Lots of juniors. It could help them in theory next year though. These guys will go back to school and while they'll make more than $20K next year in a 20 round draft, the White Sox could draft and sign guys potentially underslot in the 2021 draft.
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Here's how I understand it: if a guy is on active roster for 60 games, it's a year of service. If Madrigal is on the taxi squad to start and then comes up and plays in 40 games, he gets .66 of a year of service for example. Same deal for Kopech. He should start with the club though.
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They're full steam ahead. We may not agree but the league is expecting positive tests and they're ready for them. Prepare to be uncomfortable. They have this taxi squad for a reason as well. They're committed to doing this and they wouldn't even attempt it if positive tests would shut down the league again.