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I've posted this before but I'll post again here. I have a buddy that is good friends with someone close to Braves organization. He told me in the winter that Atlanta was really interested but balked at trading Maitan or Acuna in the deal. I posted all of that here. This guy gets legit Braves info a lot but the White Sox/Quintana stuff always seemed off so I never "run" with it. I've heard heavy pitching packages as the rumored offers with the following names in play: Mike Soroka, Max Fried, Luiz Gohara, Akeel Morris, and Touki Toussant. I don't think Hahn would go for an all pitching package but Rogers and Ofman have both mentioned Braves interest as well as Atlanta Journal Constitution beat guy Dave O'Brien. Just FYI I guess.

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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 27, 2017 -> 03:48 PM) Yep, they pay 75% on approximately the 35ish thousand dollars they went over. Technically they can go as far as $396,070 over, so in addition to where they are now, they could offer a HS player a deal of around $485k (125k slot + the remaining $360ish thousand they have left under the 5% threshold) and still stay in that 75% tax bracket... without losing a pick. They didn't draft a HS player to do this with though.

Tanner Banks promoted to AA Birmingham and Bernardo Flores to High A Winston Salem

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Jun 26, 2017 -> 07:33 AM) Where has Amado Nunez been? He's playing in the AZL. Just started. I just wrote the AZL Preview for FutureSox that should be dropping shortly.

QUOTE (Jenksy Cat @ Jun 23, 2017 -> 05:23 PM) I disagree on the value. What's the worst case if they waited? We don't get Levine and his bionic knee? My guess is they couldn't decide what to do and panicked last minute and took the 'best' of the s***ty offers when they should have just waited it out. There's nothing they got in return that's going to change the face of this franchise so there was no point in not just waiting it out for the year. I agree on picking a lane finally, much like the white sox. But selling a 2nd round pick & this bonehead front office signals they don't have a clue and ensures a garbage franchise for another 5-10 years minimum. Waiting didn't make any sense. The offer wouldn't have been better at deadline or next year. Another huge part of this was adding #7 pick and now they will be bad enough to pick top 5 next year. They likely wouldn't have that option if they wait. I loved Dunn at Providence and Lavine was shooting 40% from 3 and averaging almost 19 PPG as a 22 year old. I think they got enough back. I would have been much happier had they used #16 on like Harry Giles and took someone at #38 though. Those are my gripes.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jun 23, 2017 -> 05:25 PM) I certainly get the impression that this all came together pretty last minute and I am curious how much homework we even did on who we selected, etc. I wonder how much we even looked at Dunn based upon what happened this past season (vs. our pre-draft assessment from a year ago). That said, very clear that now that they have a direction...strategy will be set. Also interesting that the trading of the 2nd round pick was an "ownership" thing. Seems odd to state that. Jason Goff said on radio today that deal was done at 2PM. Also got deep into talks with Phoenix but Suns balked at including #4 once it appeared Jackson would be available. Denver refused to include Jamal Murray. Goff also said they wanted Jonathan Isaac but thought Markkanen was clear BPA.

Oshie just signed an 8 year deal to stay in Washington

QUOTE (Jenksy Cat @ Jun 23, 2017 -> 12:45 PM) My issue is....wouldn't this dumpster fire of a return have been available at pretty much any point until the deadline in 2019? No. It's not really a dumpster fire of a return either. It's just not what fans were expecting. This is the return I was expecting. I said in my mock draft blog post yesterday that Butler would go to Minny for LaVine, Dunn, and #7. That was always most realistic package. Giving up #16 with him didn't make any sense though. I think his value would have continued to decrease and there was no reason to wait any longer. What would be the point? This was the best deal and they took it. It's not a great package but it's not really about the return. It's about what trading Butler signifies. They've identified that what they were doing didn't make any sense and they are going young. Now they just need to be really bad. They were never going to pay Jimmy Butler $200+ million to play in his early thirties. It just didn't make sense. Trading #16 and dumping a 2nd is really f***ing annoying but I'm so glad that they chose to go this direction.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 23, 2017 -> 03:51 PM) It the Hammer deal freeing up money? No. Same cap hit as the new guy but more cost certainty because he's younger with more years of control

Getting Saad back is awesome. Better and younger than Panarin.

QUOTE (yesterday333 @ Jun 23, 2017 -> 09:27 AM) As the article says, it'll be interesting to see how they handle Zavala and Collins. I'm a little surprised Collins didn't move up because of that. Have we heard yet where they are putting Burger and Sheets? It seems like Dulin and REmillard will either go to Winston Salem and Sheets and Burger will go to Kanny or Sheets and Burger go right to Winston Salem.

Yeah I think they'll definitely be over their pool.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Jun 22, 2017 -> 02:05 PM) Does anyone even like Dunn? Or is it just because he was picked high its worth the risk? The only reason Dunn would interest me is if I could convince someone higher to take Dunn + 7 so the Bulls could move up in the draft. Otherwise Id actually rather get 7 + Levine + Shabazz and more picks. I just feel like Dunn youre paying a premium for and Im not really a fan. I loved him in college but he wasn't good last year.

QUOTE (2005thxfrthmmrs @ Jun 22, 2017 -> 02:01 PM) The fact that he wasn't, and that he was universally ranked lower than he was drafted tells me he won't get overslot from many teams, especially whopping $600K overslot. I think this could really impact our ability to sign Skoug. Skoug is signing. Sheets isn't impacting anything. Teams don't take guys in the top 10 rounds that aren't signing.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jun 22, 2017 -> 12:29 PM) I feel as if the Wolves are the only team potentially serious enough about getting Butler. The question is...would the Wolves do Wiggins, Dunn, and their pick for Butler. I think that would be my minimum required threshold for getting Jimmy. I feel at least the floor isn't bad (cause Wiggins is a good player...not Jimmy Buckets...but very solid). Dunn sucked last year, but Bulls liked him and young PG's can take time to develop. The pick isn't super high, but you have a shot at getting another quality player. I'm not in love with the deal...but if Bulls really wanted to move another direction...I'd be okay with it. I couldn't do a deal centered around Levine, Dunn, and the pick (or even future picks). Wiggins? No chance. I'd do Lavine, Dunn, and #7 for Butler. The Bulls have 2 options here: They can trade Jimmy Butler tonight and rebuild or they can plan on keeping him and paying him $230 million during his age 30-35 seasons. Those are the choices.

QUOTE (shipps @ Jun 20, 2017 -> 03:40 PM) CSN Chicago‏Verified account @CSNChicago 33s34 seconds ago More .@vgoodwill reports the Bulls are actively shopping Jimmy Butler: "It's either Boston or Cleveland but he's going" - http://bit.ly/2snIxXP Vincent was on with Bernstein and Goff and thinks Butler is definitely getting moved. Says there's too much smoke this time and multiple sources and people he talks to are saying they are dealing him. They don't want him with Hoiberg and they don't want to pay him $240 million

Earlier tonight, Matt previewed Advanced Rookie League Great Falls Voyagers that started play tonight: http://www.chicagonow.com/future-sox/2017/...falls-voyagers/

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 16, 2017 -> 10:45 AM) Or they make it something like Schwarber, Almora and someone like Clifton. Struggling players for each other. Can forget Eloy Jimenez or Happ. Baez is probably more valuable to the Cubs now anyway, fwiw. Cubs' fans would say it's an overpay, Sox fans not enough to move the meter. The Cubs aren't trading Kyle Schwarber. For anyone.

QUOTE (Boogua @ Jun 15, 2017 -> 10:53 AM) The Celtics should trade some picks (including next year's nets pick, but not this year's) and trade for George. They also appear to be slight favorites to get Hayward right now. A lineup of Thomas, Fultz, Hayward, George, and Horford could beat the cavs I think and give the Warriors a run for their money. George likely wouldn't stay in Boston though.

QUOTE (Buehrlesque @ Jun 16, 2017 -> 09:55 AM) Haha, that hypothetical Astros offer is laughable! If the Astros offered Kyle Tucker, Franklin Perez, and Yordan Alvarez, I'd do that instantly.

I don't think I'd trade Quintana to Astros without Kyle Tucker. That's a deal breaker for me. Another team can and will beat their offer without him involved.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 16, 2017 -> 09:01 AM) Good post...but believe (for now) teams will shy away from offering super elite prospects like Torres...instead trying to acquire him for 3-4 players with two being MILB top 35-75. Super elite prospects were never being traded for Quintana though. I always thought he'd land a top 30 guy, another top 100, an org top 10, and a flyer type.

I was hoping that the White Sox would draft more high school players and go with longer-term upside plays. With that being said, it's tough to do where they were picking and I understand why they chose the method that they did. They are insulating the system with good players and it makes sense. They also were pretty successful according to the major publications: MLB Pipeline: #16 Jake Burger #48 Evan Skoug #60 Gavin Sheets #97 Tyler Johnson #106 Luis Gonzalez #162 Lincoln Henzman #189 Will Kincanon Baseball America: #20 Jake Burger #65 Gavin Sheets #78 Evan Skoug #86 Luis Gonzalez #151 Lincoln Henzman #155 Tyler Johnson #244 Kade McClure #349 Will Kincanon Keith Law: #21 Jake Burger #68 Gavin Sheets #73 Luis Gonzalez #86 Evan Skoug #97 Tyler Johnson

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2715249...eball-prospects http://herosports.com/mlb/2018-mlb-draft-d...nger-bubic-bkbk