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I think I'm done here for now. More mouth breathers here than on twitter. I remember when this was an intelligent baseball site. Not sure what happened.

We'd all love Turner, Giolito, and Robles. Jesus christ people. Turner was like a 3.5 WAR player last year in 70+ games. He'll be a 5 WAR position player. Sale is a a 5-6 WAR pitcher. Trading Turner to acquire Sale doesn't really do anything for the Nationals. There is no chance that they do that and we'd all be better off not expecting it anymore. Giolito is best pitching prospect (outside of Urias) in baseball. Robles is a legit stud. They need other pieces for sure and I'm guessing would get them. Bregman isn't available. Red Sox seem to be out. You can totally tell who has done research and who just chooses to freak out by just reading this thread.

WHY ARE WE STILL TALKING ABOUT TREA TURNER??????

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Dec 5, 2016 -> 09:44 PM) And still none of what you said changes that their best piece is still Turner. The Sox are not the ones who would be closing off and rushing negotiations when they fail to include that. Trea Turner is a 5 WAR position player that they need on their big league team. He was an unrealistic get.

Giolito is #1 pitching prospect in baseball. Solid chance that Riobles is top 3 prospect in baseball next year. Fedde is very good too but Reynaldo Lopez would be pretty disgusting haul.

QUOTE (bmags @ Dec 5, 2016 -> 11:37 AM) Honestly kind of scared of drafting an LT that high. There's only one 1st round OT in this class currently. Ryam Ramczyk from Wisconsin. Possible Cam Robinson from Bama as well. Not a good OT class.

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Dec 5, 2016 -> 11:26 AM) Okay. Make Turner available and maybe something can happen. No way they get both Sale and Cutch without him. I don't think Cutch has the value that people think. He's not good defensively anymore, wants to play CF, and was a negative WAR player last year.

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Dec 5, 2016 -> 11:28 AM) This is a great idea in principle but Washington would have to allow the Sox to clean out their system for me to consider it. For Robertson? No. It'd be like 1 extra piece. And they pay the 2/25 contract.

I wonder if Nationals would be interested in Robertson or Jones with Sale since Melancon is going to the Giants

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Dec 5, 2016 -> 10:13 AM) Can someone tell me why Washington is so appealing if Turner isn't involved? Giolito has already had TJ and didn't do much of anything at the big league level, and Robles is a 19 year old in A ball. The Sox can't develop a player like him. Mike, Giolito is the best pitching prospect in the minor leagues and is close to ML ready. Robles is #10 prospect in baseball according to MLB.com. He's the type guy that you acquire and is the #1 prospect in all of baseball in a year and a half. If the Sox can't develop Victor Robles, then they are screwed as an organization and doomed to fail anyway.

Western Kentucky HC Jeff Brohm is the new coach at Purdue. Excellent hire for the Boilermakers. I love his pro style spread system. It's a tough rebuild there but he's a Petrino disciple and really knows QBs and the passing game. Has a good young QB in David Blough.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Dec 5, 2016 -> 10:00 AM) He spent last season entirely in the secondary. He's just not very good at coverage which is why he was converted to an OLB this year. He's good at setting the edge and blitzing. Jourdan Lewis is head and shoulders a better defensive player and playmaker. Stribling actually had an awesome year as well. Malik Hooker is going to be a dynamic safety in the NFL, however right now he's leaning towards staying. If someone is hell bent on taking a Big Ten defensive player in the first round, Lewis is the hands down no brainer selection. I don't think Lewis meets the Bears Arm Length and Height threshold at CB though. The kid at Iowa is better than Lewis. Both guys at Ohio State (Conley, Lattimore) are both better too.

QUOTE (Ro Da Don @ Dec 5, 2016 -> 09:36 AM) Me too. Although there's a lot of questions in it, you get 2 top 20 guys in Giolito and Robles, 2 guys to plug instantly at the back end in Ross and AJ Cole. Depends what the other remaining piece or 2 would be. You'd get 2 top 10 guys in Giolito and Robles. #3 and #10

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/top-21-pros...cago-white-sox/

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 5, 2016 -> 08:33 AM) These rival evaluators said the same thing in 2010, and passed on drafting him. People thought he was unsignable and some thought he was a reliever.

QUOTE (GoodAsGould @ Dec 4, 2016 -> 04:22 PM) I might be a big ten Homer but I think peppers would be a great pick for the bears. Give them the play maker on defense that has been missing. I'd rather take good players over a QB that isn't worth a top pick. Peppers isn't a top 5 player though. I don't know what he does for you. He has 1 interception in college. He has 3 TD's so people think he's awesome. He's good. You have to be Sean Taylor for me to take a S that high though and I think Jamal Adams from LSU is better.

I'm actually coming around to a pitching based package from Washington. They can always trade the pitching later. According to mlb.com Giolito is the #3 prospect in baseball and Robles is #10. Reynaldo Lopez is #37 and Eric Fedde is #75. Give me all of them at 3B Carter Kieboom and I probably do it. I'm still high on Giolito though. He's the best pitching project in baseball. Legit 80 fastball and 70 Curveball with 55 command. He's an ace. Also have CF Andrew Stevenson and RHP Joe Ross. They can get it done.

QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Dec 3, 2016 -> 09:56 PM) Sources: Melancon has multiple 4-yr, $60M+ offers: #SFGiants, #Nationals, perhaps one other. SF thought to be strongest, as @jcrasnick said. https://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal/status/805256686994853888 And David Robertson just became a bargain again.

Brohm would actually be a very good hire for Purdue. Develops QB's and scores points.

Really good info about the new CBA from Jeff Passan: http://sports.yahoo.com/news/the-inside-de...-082559072.html International $$ can be traded. Teams like the Padres get no amnesty and still can't spend more than $300,000 on a player for next 2 years. They do however, still get a pool amount of $5.75 million and they can trade it.

I will say that the Sox settle on one monster headliner and upside for Sale and do this: Astros Receive: LHP Chris Sale White Sox Receive: INF Alex Bregman 1B/DH AJ Reed RHP David Paulino OF Preston Tucker OF Jason Martin Here are a few more: St. Louis Receives: Adam Eaton and Dan Jennings White Sox Receive: OF Harrison Bader 3B Paul DeJong RHP Jack Flaherty RHP Sandy Alcantara RHP Dakota Hudson Los Angeles Dodgers Receive: Todd Frazier and Zach Putnam White Sox Receive: 2B/DH Willie Calhoun RHP Jordan Sheffield Boston Red Sox Receive: RHP David Robertson White Sox Receive: C Blake Swihart Texas Rangers Receive: OF Melky Cabrera White Sox Receive: LHP Cole Ragans Keep Abreu, Nate Jones, Quintana, Gonzalez for now.

Lets say Dexter Fowler signs in Toronto. St. Louis was said to have some interest in that type of player. How many of the following guys would you need from St. Louis to trade Adam Eaton: RHP Luke Weaver, RHP Jack Flaherty, RHP Sandy Alcantara, OF Harrison Bader, C Carson Kelly, SS Delvin Perez. I think STL can acquire Adam Eaton if they ponied up honestly.

I coach HS football and don't have a ton of contacts but I heard this yesterday from some guys: Les Miles made a bunch of demands at Purdue that they weren't willing or able to do and their focus has shifted to PJ Fleck. Fleck is interested in the Purdue job but is holding out for a better offer.

Adam Eaton is my favorite player on the team. With that being said, he's a speed player and much of his value comes from his throwing arm and he's 28 years old. I think they will only trade him if they received an absolute haul in return but if that's the case I'd be fine with doing it. I'm not sure that Adam Eaton is going to be a 5-6 WAR player over the next few seasons. Even if he's a 3-4 WAR player though he's an incredible value. If he gets moved, I think we'll be pleased with the return because I can't see him moving otherwise.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 1, 2016 -> 01:25 PM) If the Pirates are looking to use Meadows in their OF, that seriously dents the package they could be able to offer for Sale. They aren't going to be able to give up both frontline starter candidates for Sale and still fill out their rotation. Meadows is a great Sale deal headliner because he's currently blocked. You can make something work with Meadows and one of those 2 starters as a headliner, you have an average at best deal for Sale if they say you get 1 of their 2 starters along with basically everything else they can offer. The Pirates aren't trading for Chris Sale.