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QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 9, 2016 -> 02:55 AM) Why not? They're not drawing fans with this .500 flirtation. They are not a playoff contender. Just start dumping guys we don't need. Dump Robertson, Avila, Navarro, Lawrie, Frazier, Melky, Duke, Jennings and Quintana if you must and see what kinda young team you can build from that. Because they are going for it again next year as well and they'd have to replace all those guys.

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Jul 8, 2016 -> 10:32 PM) What kind of package for Quintana and Frazier? The Sox aren't selling.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 8, 2016 -> 09:40 PM) 1. TOR +11 (7 straight wins) 2. BOS +9 3. HOU +6 1 1/2 GB 4. DET +3 3 GB 5. CHW/KCR +2 3 1/2 GB (both teams currently losing, KC by 2 late) 7. SEA +1 4 GB 8. NYY -2 5 1/2 GB Getting close to being able to stick a fork in the Yankees. The Mets are REALLY in desperate need of starting pitchers with Syndergaard struggling with the bone spur issue in his elbow. Cespedes also hurt his quad. Harvey out for the year with thoracic outlet syndrome surgery. Trade partner? Semien hit his 19th homer, homers in two consecutive games now. The Sox aren't selling

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Jul 8, 2016 -> 04:56 PM) Nope. They're going after vet pgs for the MLE. Lawson, Vazquez, Jack, etc. I'd like Vazquez for this team. Where'd you see this at?

Charlotte Knights ‏@KnightsBaseball 33s34 seconds ago ROSTER MOVE: RHP Ryan Webb signed by @whitesox & added to the #CLTKnights. RHP Matt Lollis assigned to @BhamBarons. I wondered if the Sox would have interest in Ryan Webb.

QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Jul 8, 2016 -> 02:34 PM) You're probably right. I don't think Fulmer should be considered untouchable . Cleveland also could target Lucroy since Yan Gomes has sucked bad this year and has more minor league bullets to offer. For the Sox to get Lucroy, Fulmer may be the only thing we have the Brewers would be interested in. I don't think Fulmer is untouchable either. I just don't know if I'd move him for 1.5 years of control. I'd rather target Derek Norris.

QUOTE (ptatc @ Jul 8, 2016 -> 02:23 PM) According to fangraphs Quintana has the second highest WAR for pitchers in the AL at 3.1. So theoretically he is the second best pitcher in the AL by this measure. Here is the conceptual problem I have with WAR. Supposedly, WAR is Wins Above Replacement where the replacement is any guy from AAA. Let's use a decent pitcher like Scott Carroll. This stat tells me that the White Sox will only have 3 more win from the contributions of Quintana as opposed to Carroll. Common sense wise that just doesn't make sense between a AAA pitcher and the second best pitcher in the AL. Quintana is actually tied for 1st with Kluber at 3.1 fWAR. Kluber has the better FIP. Q has the better ERA. Both pitchers are better than Estrada though. It's not true that the replacement is any guy from AAA. Carroll over the course of a season starting would most likely be a -WAR player.

QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Jul 8, 2016 -> 02:12 PM) Brewers need a 3rd baseman bad since they have to rely on Will Middlebrooks and even Jake Elmore. If the Sox want to be bold they could offer Brett Lawrie or Saladino . If Brewers took Lawrie ,Saladino probably become starting 2nd baseman. Of course doubtful Lawrie alone would do it.Maybe also offer Trey M.,Courtney Hawkins. Lucroy is signed through 2016 with an option for 2017 and is still cheap . Lawrie only signed through 2016 so Sox would be gaining the extra year and better player hence the need to give the Brewers some controllable pieces also. Saladino isn't arbitration eligible until 2019 so maybe Brewers would prefer him over Lawrie. I doubt the Brewers want Lawrie. They drafted him and traded him. Saladino is just a guy. It would cost Fulmer + for Lucroy

Mark Simon ‏@msimonespn 20s20 seconds ago Most Defensive Runs Saved via Shift (per @fieldingbible) Mariners 17 Padres 16 White Sox 13 Rockies 12 Phillies 12 0 retweets 0 likes

QUOTE (Brian @ Jul 8, 2016 -> 09:42 AM) His go ahead hit, he was celebrating as he hit it but them had to run as it looked like Inciarte may have a diving shot at it. He hit a meaningless HR a couple of weeks ago as they were getting smoked and point at the Cubs dugout and smirked. He's a showboat. LOL I'd take him on the White Sox in a heartbeat. I actually think the Cubs team is extremely likable.

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Jul 8, 2016 -> 01:50 PM) He's also injured, so no thanks. Ready to come off the DL after the break.

spencer tate adams ‏@adamswc12 46s46 seconds ago Getting tired of seeing "black lives matter" yes they matter but all lives matter not one race is more important than another #standtogether 0 retweets 0 likes I feel like this will get deleted shortly.....

I know the White Sox will be mentioned with Reddick, Bruce, etc in the coming weeks. If they miss out and even if they don't, Steve Pearce would be a great acquisition and probably won't cost a ton in return. He can play the OF and DH. He'd be the perfect platoon partner for Morneau. It's only 48 at-bats vs LHP but Pearce has 5 homers, a .514 wOBA, and a 233 wRC+. Overall, Pearce has a wRC+ of 153 with a .933 OPS. He'd be a great addition IMO.

I will be in attendance as well.

I think the Bulls considered a full tear it down rebuild. This would have required trading Jimmy Butler. It didn't seem like they were getting enough in return for Jimmy to deal him. With this being the case, they would have been picking in the late lottery anyway. They would still be trying to sign free agents the next 2 off seasons and nobody would be coming to a bad team with nothing to look forward to. Wade and Rondo are stopgaps but I'm not willing to say that it doesn't get them closer to a title. A free agent or two is much more likely to come to the Bulls with Wade in tow and it sounds like Butler has been recruiting his ass off. Wade coming does more to the Bulls image in a positive way than it helps on the court. So yes, being the 6th seed in the East, with Wade/Rondo/Butler definitely puts them in a better position to sign a max player than going with just Butler and picking 11th in the draft does. They just weren't willing to tear it down completely because they would not have been bad enough next year to make it worthwhile. And they like playoff revenue.

Matt Spiegel and Jason Goff brought up an excellent point about this whole thing. Wade has been the biggest detractor in the league about the Bulls "organization". He was one of the guys leading the charge about how they are disloyal because of how they "treated" Michael Jordan and how everything went down in 99. It's a stigma that has faced the Bulls in acquiring free agents. Wade isn't what he used to be but having him as an ally now is beneficial. If the $47 million is the cost to make Chicago a relevant destination again than it's money well spent.

That video is one of the worst things I've ever seen. He told the officer that he was carrying, the officer asked to see his license. He reached for it and the cop murdered him with a 4 year old in the back seat. Unreal. Black people are disproportionately getting killed by police and cops aren't really getting punished for it. Police can target and kill with impunity in this country and that should frighten the s*** out of everyone. 1146 Americans were killed by police in 2015. 561 so far in 2016. 100 times more Americans were killed by police in the US than by ISIS. This is a problem.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 6, 2016 -> 03:23 PM) whitesoxdave ‏@barstoolWSD 10m10 minutes ago Chicago, IL Buster Olney just said on ESPN Radio the White Sox should sell high with Quintana to the BoSox and that they'd def overpay #Benintendi Buster said that the White Sox should listen because Dombrowski will overpay with the pressure on Boston to win. He did say that he wouldn't necessarily trade him though. He mentioned Moncada and Benintendi.

Rodon has poor command. That's the issue. He has a devastating wipeout slider but if he's behind in the count, he can't throw it. This is technically year 1 of control for Rodon. The White Sox have him for 5 more seasons after this one and he becomes a fee agent after 2021 at age 28. He's a mid rotation starter that spent no time in the minors and he has TOR starter upside. People expected too much too soon, myself included.

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Jul 6, 2016 -> 10:06 AM) IMO it's clear as day. He's using these teams for leverage with Miami. I'd be stunned if he left. Then again, I said I'd be stunned if Durant left OKC. I don't know how Miami comes up with the $$ though. They don't have it.

Alex Kennedy ‏@AlexKennedyNBA 2m2 minutes ago Jimmy Butler and Rajon Rondo have been recruiting Dwyane Wade to Chicago, according to sources close to situation. 7 retweets 2 likes

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Jul 6, 2016 -> 07:23 AM) The affirmative decision to rush up Rodon and his stunted development as a #4 is another feather in Hahn's cap ( Cooper's as well). Cooper's continued status as whitesox deity another issue as well. You really need to stop with this. You either have Rodon under these circumstances or you probably have Aaron Nola instead. Him coming quickly was part of his agreeing to sign for $6.8 million. I've been over this before though.

Is there any chance that they think Wade gives them the best chance at landing another max player next summer?

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jul 6, 2016 -> 06:05 AM) Caulfield stop trying to force the opening of trade winds. Jason usually opens the forum a week before the deadline I actually agree with Caulfield here. I don't see the downside in having it open. Not like rumors just start right before the deadline.

QUOTE (Brian @ Jul 6, 2016 -> 08:41 AM) I see us signing him and losing to Cleveland in the 2nd round and accomplishing nothing for our future. Ugh Do they think that Wade can still attract another max player next summer?