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QUOTE (QuickJones81 @ Jun 14, 2016 -> 11:40 AM) I don't think I necessarily agree. If we are taking less than our share of the top 200 or 500 that means somebody is getting more than their share. If they can do it, why can't we? It's about pool $$. The Sox had like $9.5 million to spend on the draft. Their 1st pick is taking the full $3.3 million allotted, Burdi is probably close to the $2.2 million slot amount there and I would imagine that Hansen is slot as well. You can't just take the BPA on the board each time because guys wouldn't necessarily sign. For example, they took Michael Hickman in round 13. If he's over $100,000 he counts against their overall draft pool. They took 3-4 guys that will be under slot to save some $$ to sign Hickman and probably Ian Hamilton. It has t be done this way. If they took Hickman in round 7 and he doesn't sign, they don't get the player and they lose the ability to spend the money for that allocated slot.

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Jun 14, 2016 -> 11:21 AM) Ynoa called up Former top International Prospect and part of Shark trade. That deal ended up being: Semien, Phegley, Ravelo, and Bassitt for 1 year of Samardzija, Michael Ynoa, and RHP Zach Burdi.

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Jun 14, 2016 -> 11:06 AM) I know Coats is better than the 3-pitch, 3-swings at balls, strikeout hitter he showed, but I'd rather give Bourgeios a chance if Coats keeps this up I'd just leave Coats up, send Shuck down, and recall Bourgeios.

QUOTE (JenksIsMyHero @ Jun 14, 2016 -> 09:39 AM) Trading Butler for anything other than a top 2 pick in this draft is dumb, even if you get a guy like Wiggins. Why would you trade a franchise player (even a lower end one) for a couple of prospects that percentages say will never pan out? All but about 5 teams in the league continue searching for an all-star quality player to build their team around. The Bulls have one. It would be moronic to let that go. Because Jimmy Butler can't be the best player on a championship team. I'd rather roll with Wiggins and Dunn and the cap relief. I obviously wouldn't do it without Wiggins involved though.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jun 14, 2016 -> 09:08 AM) I think part of this is I think both are susceptible to the HR so obviously Johnson will have benefit of pitching in betters park and I would have guessed that Shields would have a better 2016 than Johnson with Johnson really being the better value in the following years (and obviously Sox made this move with 2016 top of mind, although, given they were taking on some extra years, I presume they also contemplated such and presumed Shields will still be a passable 4th / 5th in those years). I will continue to say, they should have used the cash and prospects to fill bigger holes, but that is just me. That said, I hope Shields kicks ass for the Sox. I get what you mean. He obviously has a mechanical issue though. He's not an ace anymore but he's not this bad.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jun 14, 2016 -> 08:56 AM) I was never a fan of the trade, but Shields is not as bad as these most recent two starts. He's trending the wrong direction but he didn't just become the worst pitcher in baseball overnight. That said, I do think if given the shot in San Diego, Johnson, will end up putting up better numbers over the next three years than Shields. Maybe so. I do not believe that Erik Johnson would have put up better numbers here than Shields will though.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 14, 2016 -> 07:53 AM) Except it seems Robin is already reaching the end of his rope on trusting Coats...as he's already starting Avi over him defensively and also pulled him from the game after he was struggling mightily just to make contact, let alone put a ball into play. I'll go with Pearce of the Rays as the best possible add right now...for the time being, and also future strengthening of our overall depth/bench. The way he's going right now, though, he would be a full-time line-up presence. I truly think as dumb as it sounds, that Avi is being showcased somehow. Ventura would give him multiple days off in a row at DH. Now he plays every day in the OF with a better defender on the bench. It really doesn't make any sense.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jun 14, 2016 -> 12:11 AM) They'll never trade Wiggins. Too risky that he's the next big thing. Trade will never get done cause Bulls will demand Wiggins be included IMO. Probably not but Thibs isn't married to Wiggins. Wiggins and #5 gets it done for me. I'm not sure Kris Dunn, Zach LaVine, and Dieng is enough for Butler.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jun 14, 2016 -> 07:42 AM) Get an OF and get one soon. Can't keep playing Avi in RF. They don't have to though. They can just play Coats in RF

User Actions Follow Pedro MartinezVerified account ‏@45PedroMartinez I hope Shields realizes he's flying open and his head is too far away from his release point. He needs to work on his mechanics.

User Actions Follow Pedro MartinezVerified account ‏@45PedroMartinez I hope Shields realizes he's flying open and his head is too far away from his release point. He needs to work on his mechanics.

I'm not the biggest Jimmy Butler fan and would be on board with dealing him. Minnesota can't get it done without Wiggins though. Not in this draft. #5, Lavine, and Dieng doesn't get it done. Butler is too good.

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Jun 13, 2016 -> 05:50 PM) Sox had 7 of the first 200 picks and 17 of the first 500 picks. Reliever in the 11th round - agree it's great. Reliever in round 1 - the essence of the problem with this front office. But he's a good player. If they can sign all of these guys, it should be a productive draft. It's unrealistic to take the best player in every round though. You know that.

Terry Boers never really breaks news but he just casually said that Ventura is toast this week with a bad series vs Detroit. It really does finally have that feel. Lots of smoke about it from radio guys, bloggers, etc.

QUOTE (bmags @ Jun 13, 2016 -> 11:46 AM) Referring to both Burdi and Hamilton. 221 isn't that high. If he has a great shot at the majors as a reliever but other position players in that area don't then yes I think Hamilton is the better prospect. I don't like taking relievers in the 1st round, even ones as awesome as Zach Burdi but at a certain point they do become underrated. Getting a guys like Hamilton in the 11th is a greta pick. You just throw him 1 inning at a time, his stuff plays up, and moves extremely quick. I get it.

QUOTE (bmags @ Jun 13, 2016 -> 11:40 AM) Interesting to see BA rate closers so highly. I think it's because many people think he can start long-term.

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QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Jun 13, 2016 -> 11:07 AM) If Anderson hits and can be moved up to the 2-spot, would anyone be opposed to Bourgeois or Leury Garcia patrolling center and hitting 9th? Don't really know how they're doing defensively, but it could add another solid defender in center pushing Eaton back to right with more speed and flexibility on the roster. No but I'd rather have either guy than Shuck on the bench. At least they can play CF and they can both steal a bag.

Out of the MLB.com top 200, the White Sox drafted 6 guys: Zack Collins (14), Zach BUrdi (41), Alec Hansen (62), Jameson Fisher (75), Luis Curbelo (104), and Ian Hamilton (187) They also drafted 12 guys from the Baseball America Top 500: Collins (16), Burdi (21), Hansen (37), Fisher (64), Curbelo (99), Hamilton (221), Call (266), Flores (312), Nolan (410), Elliot (478), Lambert (479), and Booker (492). I'm guessing they'll get great overall reviews from Baseball America.

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Jun 13, 2016 -> 10:47 AM) Firing Robin might salvage this season a little, but what happens after that? Wouldn't they have to sign his successor to a new contract after the season anyway? I don't know. It seems more likely that they'll let Robin finish this season and then let him go in the offseason. I truly do believe that he gets fired after the Detroit series if it doesn't go well. Rick Renteria becomes the interim. If Renteria guides them to the playoffs, I suppose he could receive the permanent title but I expect Sandy Alomar to be the manager next season.

QUOTE (bmags @ Jun 13, 2016 -> 10:15 AM) Great stuff. Hamilton could be one of the fast risers in the bullpen. Definitely grabbed some interesting catching prospects. Hamilton will be coming fast if they leave him in the bullpen which it sounds like is the plan. Here's the snippet from mlb.com on Hamilton Scouting Grades: Fastball: 50 | Curveball: 45 | Changeup: 50 | Control: 45 | Overall: 45 Hamilton had built a reputation as one of the better college closers in the game, collecting 28 saves over his first two seasons at Washington State and pitching extremely well out of the bullpen in the Cape Cod League last summer. When moved into the rotation for his junior year, though, his stuff backed up and knocked him down several pegs on Draft boards everywhere. When pitching in shorter stints, he would crank his fastball up into the 94-97 mph range consistently. His very good changeup would play off of that, and he lived largely off of that two-pitch mix. As a starter, Hamilton has been very vanilla, largely pitching with an 89-91 mph fastball and trying to use his fringy breaking ball more frequently. He's moved around to various spots in Washington State's weekend rotation as a result. Any team considering taking Hamilton in the top five rounds will be doing so based on his track record and success on the Cape. A return to a bullpen could allow him to move fairly quickly through a system as well.

McNeil should be Kaplan's partner on 1000.

QUOTE (CB2.0 @ Jun 13, 2016 -> 07:44 AM) raBBit - Assuming Collins signing goes as planned; what is a REALISTIC timetable for him? You didn't ask me but if they honestly are planning on having him catch, I would think sometime during the 2018 season.

Very solid draft overall for the White Sox. Collins, Burdi, and Hansen all very good day 1 picks. Call should be underslot in the 3rd. Jameson Fisher was a top 75ish type guy on most boards. H can really hit and get on base. Jimmy Lambert in round 5 should be an underslot as well. Luis Curbelo is a HS SS from Miami. He is going to cost some $$ but they would not have taken him where they did if he wasn't signing. Saved some $$ in round 7-10. Ian Hamilton from Washington State might be value in round 11. He's a bullpen guy but BA had him 221 on their top 500. I would imagine that Michael Hickman signs this time around after spending a year at JUCO. Some interesting HS names in the 30's and I expect most of them to be unsignable.

And on 38th rounder Justin Lavey: Hansen Hillmer ‏@HansenThrillmer Jun 11 The fourth high schooler from Wisconsin gets chosen; Justin Lavey from Kenosha. Unlikely to sign, though. #MLBDraft 0 retweets 0 likes