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QUOTE (Scoots @ Apr 20, 2016 -> 11:12 AM) Nice that Avi isn't in the lineup. Think Ventura is sitting him for not hitting or is he just giving him rest? He's sitting him because he's bad. Ventura said today that it's about production at this point with Garcia. No more time for development or something along those lines. They basically replaced Garcia this offseason by turning him into a DH that would only play vs LHP. They know he's bad. Won't be much longer.

QUOTE (bmags @ Apr 20, 2016 -> 12:40 PM) I just don't understand this. It's the primary to decide who will be the party's nominee for the actual election. If this is an issue, shouldn't it also be a problem that you can only choose one ballot? Why shouldn't anyone voting for primary be allowed to vote for the democrat and republican candidate? The primary's, aside from creating candidates for the GE, are choosing someone to essentially lead that party. I get not making it hard for people to vote, but I don't get the idea that someone who has said they are specifically not a democrat or republican deserves the right to be a part of that process. I'm not interested in voting for anyone on either side this year but it doesn't mean that I wouldn't be in the future.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 20, 2016 -> 12:38 PM) it will be really interesting to see how he responds to full control. He has the type of personality that is cumbersome, so it will be interesting to see what happens if things go south I'm sure he has a GM/Personnel guy picked out to come on board.

The Celtics are 2 losses away from giving up Jae Crowder and multiple picks for Jimmy Butler.

QUOTE (JenksIsMyHero @ Apr 20, 2016 -> 12:28 PM) Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojVerticalNBA 6m6 minutes ago Tom Thibodeau is finalizing a five-year deal to become president and coach of the Timberwolves, league sources tell @TheVertical. That's a great move for Thibs.

It's funny that Harriet Tubman who was born a slave is now on the $20 instead of Andrew Jackson who was a slave owner. I've already seen criticism on twitter because Tubman wasn't a president. I've gone 30 years of my life not realizing that Ben Franklin and Alexander Hamilton were once presidents. Crazy.

QUOTE (ewokpelts @ Apr 20, 2016 -> 12:10 PM) The sox can't pull a braves like rebuild. The fan base would reject the team possibly more than it did after the white flag and the kids can play era. Is it any wonder why they haven't pulled the trigger on a rebuild or dumpster fire at the deadline or offseason save for July 2013? If the sox went to a $50 million or so payroll full of retreads and kids, the cheap Jew comments about Jerry would blow up boards and social media even greater than they are today. And Jerry is f***ing hated on social media these last few years. The Cubs got the free pass because they are media darlings and theo sold a line of bulls*** about doing things the "right way". And they could financially survive because they have a season ticket waiting list full of brokers and hopeful idiots. Same goes for the actual season ticket holders. Sox had 15k in the house Monday Night for a 1st place team. I'm pretty sure the rebuild crowds would be similar.

QUOTE (Jose Paniagua @ Apr 20, 2016 -> 10:47 AM) Jackson, Latos, Rollins, Danks, Navarro, Avila are a lot of people to have on 1 yr deals. Think about how much all that contributes on a daily basis. Next year b/c we have little farm talent, we have to do it all over again. Find multiyear star and/or fix the rest with short term deals. It is a process that will make you wish you had a farm. That is the larger point. Ideally, Fulmer, May, and Anderson take 3 of those spots though.

QUOTE (Tex @ Apr 20, 2016 -> 06:22 AM) The Democrats are picking a candidate. Their group is selecting a candidate. There are mechanisms in place for people who do not wish to join the Dem organization to select and run for president. Why should people who are not Democrats have any say in which candidate that group nominates? "I'm not a Democrat but dammit I want a voice in who they nominate!" Does that even sound right? Because having to link yourself to one side is f***ing lunacy. I am a fiscal conservative and social liberal. I'm voting for Gary Johnson but why shouldn't someone be able to vote for whoever they want in a primary? It doesn't make any sense.

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Apr 20, 2016 -> 07:52 AM) He seems to have no plan at the plate. He's going up first pitch swinging hoping for a fastball but instead he's getting breaking pitches and is way off. They need to send him down to AAA and bring up Coats. Could Coats honestly be any worse than Garcia? Coats is decent in the OF too, right? Farmer and DJ were talking about Garcia last night and a conversation they had with him about the struggles of being a DH instead of playing a position. They were acting act like he was better when he plays the field. He's not. And he's so bad in the field that he adds more negative value. I think Garcia is in Charlotte or out of the org by May 15.

QUOTE (raBBit @ Apr 20, 2016 -> 08:20 AM) Nationals have the best record in baseball (I think?) and they're going to trade Strasburg? Okay. They'll just recoup the comp pick for him when he leaves in free agency.

QUOTE (Tony @ Apr 20, 2016 -> 01:04 AM) Thought Teuvo played a better game tonight, not sure what the stats say. But again, the game comes down to the stars not playing like stars. For this group to win the in the playoffs, Crawford has to be the MVP, and Toews and Kane have to put the team on their back with solid play out of 2-4-7 on the back end. Really none of that has happened, and the team is down 3-1 because of it. Unless St.Louis implodes, I just don't see it this year. I think Crawford has been fine. Kane, Toews, Anisimov, and Panarin have 1 goal total. That's why they are down 3-1.

QUOTE (Tex @ Apr 20, 2016 -> 06:52 AM) Actually yes, it is too soon. You don't know what you really need until summer and you don't know what kind of season the possible hole filler is having. The Sox know. They need a LH run producer to play DH or the OF.

Northsider, what are the chances that Jason Coats would be worse than Garcia in the majors right now? I don't expect much from Coats, but Garcia is one of the 5 worst players in baseball.

My family used the same bathroom in my childhood home. I have no idea how we ever got by.

I don't think Danks has that long of a leash honestly. Some media guys have even mentioned it. I think he gets like 5-6 more starts as well but if he pitches like this all year, they won't keep trotting him out there.

QUOTE (chisox802 @ Apr 19, 2016 -> 11:48 AM) Agree with both posts. While I do not dislike Ventura as much as some, Steverson might be the worst hitting coach in baseball. While I was not calling for Robin's job after last season, I was pretty upset we brought this guy back.... We have some bats on this team that have a lot more potential than they will give us, I partially blame that on our awful hitting coach. So it's the hitting coach's fault that guys with notoriously low .obps can't get on base much? The Sox ignore on-base percentage. If they don't hit a s***load of homers, I expect their offense to be in the low 20's again.

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Apr 19, 2016 -> 11:46 AM) Exactly. It's not like they're paying $10 per ticket. They pay a lot of money and get that product? Fans have that right. Don't want booed? Don't be a clown show. There are many tickets available for less than $10. They weren't even checking last night.

QUOTE (Dunt @ Apr 19, 2016 -> 11:17 AM) Gotta agree with Mark here. I am excited as anyone about the great start this team had and I will go to plenty of games this season b/c I am geniunely excited about this team, but let's not pretend like an 8-2 suddenly erases the memories of the last couple of years of this organization. This is a team that brought back an awful manager, brought back a terrible hitting coach, decided to continue running out one of the worst players in baseball, and didnt land the extra big bat that everyone was screaming for this offseason. It's hard to forget about those things as a fan. I think this team has the potential to be very good, but do you really blame people for being skeptical right now? Especially since 2 of their 3 home games have been absolute blowouts? If Cespedes or Upton were in RF, I'm willing to bet the turnout would be pretty close to the same.

QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ Apr 19, 2016 -> 11:10 AM) Just my opinion but it just may have something to do with: A. Three straight losing seasons B. Six losing seasons in nine years (worst stretch since 1968-1980) C. One playoff appearance in nine years D. Five playoff appearances in 35 years Having a good start for 10 days doesn't magically erase all that. It's going to take time and CONSISTENT winning to bring the fans back. I'm not saying win multiple World Series, that's not going to happen but making the expanded playoffs two or three years in a row would help a lot. And unfortunately the Sox haven't been able to do that...ever. Unlike some I don't blame the fans. When a restaurant gives you bad food you don't go back...when the hardware store sells you a defective tool you don't go back. Sports is no different. When the product is good and worth seeing the fans will return. Until then the onus is on ownership to make it so. Mark I'm not expecting 30,000 people but last night was embarrassing.

QUOTE (shysocks @ Apr 19, 2016 -> 11:18 AM) Yay, this thread again. I'm sorry that you were forced to post in it.

QUOTE (flavum @ Apr 19, 2016 -> 09:47 AM) People that boo their own players are just idiots. Plain and simple. Unless he's blatantly playing lazy, you don't boo your own players. As far as how many people were in the park last night, that's not our problem. I guess I just don't really understand why there weren't more people. Rodon was pitching against a team with the best player in baseball. It was nice out in Chicago. The team is in 1st place. Fanbase is full of a bunch of bickering excuse makers. I shouldn't have been surprised I guess.

QUOTE (whitesoxjr27 @ Apr 19, 2016 -> 09:10 AM) Does it not phase kenny williams, hahn, and reinsdorf on what is happening on the north side? This cub team has a window of at least five years to be great and we continue to do the same thing over and over again. Not complaining just a thought. I think they care far more about what the Tigers, Indians, Royals ,and Twins are doing.

The Sox should have just gone to Danks last night in the 1st inning and then started Rodon again on Thursday.

QUOTE (Boogua @ Apr 19, 2016 -> 07:46 AM) He reminds me much more of Forte than he does of Faulk. Faulk was a decent amount smaller and faster than Elliot. Forte had similar size and speed. Obviously, if Elliot has the career that Forte had, that's one hell of a career. Elliott actually reminds me of a healthy Frank Gore.