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It's no wonder why Drake LaRoche liked the clubhouse so much. He was in a room full of his peers.

I can't post tweets from work but Frazier told Bruce Levine that no players went to management about Drake LaRoche. Players are also meeting with Reinsdorf within next few days.

All of this for a player that is below replacement level at this point.

Well at least we know why Sale and Drake got along so well. Sale has the mental stability of a 14 year old. Good lord. The lack of leadership talk from last year is absolutely true. They had nobody to do it. Definitely isn't Chris Sale.

Sale is not a smart human.

They were off yesterday. I'm assuming that we'll hear from them today. I wouldn't be surprised if it's Reinsdorf either.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Mar 18, 2016 -> 09:44 AM) It seems a lot of players are pretty pissed off he won't be around. Why is it necessary to piss off Chris Sale and Adam Eaton in order to accommodate Jimmy Rollins? I highly doubt that it's just Rollins. Sale and Eaton aren't necessarily leaders. Sale is awesome but he is not a smart human. It seems like the locker room is being taken over by some of the new guys. This is a good thing. They have a manager that doesn't lead. This is fine if there are veteran leaders on a baseball team. Last year there were none of those. Most of these new guys have been around and have won before. It's a good thing that the status quo has been challenged.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Mar 18, 2016 -> 09:24 AM) Definitely don't have time to go back through hundreds of posts to find it. Who was it and do you have a credible source or at least any reason for knowing? Rollins. Yes I have a credible source in this case. 670 mentioned it multiple times yesterday. A group of players went to KW. The group included Jimmy Rollins. And it makes complete sense.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Mar 18, 2016 -> 09:18 AM) I don't think Avila had anything to do with it. There are photos with Avila with his arm around him and Drake driving him around in a golf cart. And even if they did, if they went to KW and KW said something to LaRoche and LaRoche said fine, I'll just go home, KW would say, on second thought, Drake is a fine boy. Seeing him every day is great. I'll agree with you here. Of course the fact that he sucks has something to do with it. Kenny most likely thinks that he should be improving his game instead of playing with his son at work and he used veteran players complaining as a reason. I think both things are true though.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Mar 18, 2016 -> 09:19 AM) If I had to guess which player spoke to KW about him being there, it's Latos. Just my guess. Your guess would be wrong. I said who it was yesterday. It's in the thread.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Mar 18, 2016 -> 09:13 AM) Of course not, because Drake wouldn't be an issue. I know you know that. The White Sox promised him something, they weaseled out of their promise, and he did them a favor and walked away from $13 million. Be happy. They "weaseled" out of their promise when veteran players complained. They told him it was fine last year and I agree there. The problem is, when new players on the team are bothered by it, the situation needs to be addressed. And it just was.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Mar 18, 2016 -> 09:13 AM) Of course not, because Drake wouldn't be an issue. I know you know that. Not sure I agree. I think Jimmy Rollins and Alex Avila still would have had an issue with a 14 year old being around constantly.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Mar 18, 2016 -> 08:59 AM) Where does it stop? If someone you work with says something, is that on you? If Adam LaRoche had a good year last year, I am thinking many opinions would be quite different, and Chris Sale and Adam Eaton wouldn't be stooges, but a brave heroes willing to go up against the almighty KW. I do hope for all those that called LaRoche selfish, if he does change his mind, they will have the courtesy of taking it back. It's funny when Cuddyer retired, many wondered, why not LaRoche. They wanted LaRoche to go away. He goes away, now he's a bad father, selfish, quit on the team....He left and gave the White Sox $13 million. The anger should be happiness. If Adam LaRoche had a good year last year, I doubt he'd be retiring.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Mar 18, 2016 -> 08:54 AM) So what. Do you have a brother? Are you responsible for what comes out of his mouth? It's his company. He can't claim that the f***ing company is his and then say that he had nothing to do with the tweets. He hasn't said that but I'm just saying. If LaRoche didn't want the company saying these things, they wouldn't be out there. He is selfish. In this case, I'm glad he's being selfish because he sucks and I'm glad he's no longer on my favorite baseball team. That doesn't make him any less of an irrational baby though.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Mar 18, 2016 -> 08:38 AM) If anyone thinks this story wouldn't have eventually come out, you are kidding yourselves, and blaming LaRoche is silly. He has been as quiet as anyone. He won't even return Tony Clark's calls. It's better that it came out now than closer to the real games. At least now there is a decent chance it is long gone by the time the games count. LaRoche hasn't said anything but his company, his father, Pittsburgh writers, and his brother tried to get it out there as soon as possible.

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Mar 18, 2016 -> 07:56 AM) Are the Sox rumored to be interested in Cashner? I haven't seen anything about him lately. No. The writer just used Cashner as an example of a guy that they could acquire.

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QUOTE (TheTruth05 @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 02:51 PM) Would the vet players who complained had really said something if they didn't think and see LaRoche was more focused on playing coach to his son then actually prepping for the season. I wouldn't even doubt some last year guys said something since they figured he'd sharpen up this ST since last year he was downright terrible. Tom Shaer was just on with Laurence Holmes and mentioned that guys complained last year as well.

QUOTE (lasttriptotulsa @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 01:51 PM) soxfan85 - what you’ve just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul. Great movie. Knibb High Football Rules!!!! haha

QUOTE (flavum @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 01:58 PM) It's possible with the off day, he's back home having some family time. #FamilyFirst

So the Jimmy Rollins signing was genius. He got LaRoche off the team and saved the White Sox $13 million.

QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 01:30 PM) Am I the only one who thinks this won't impact their play on the field? I don't think it matters at all honestly. This team needed a kick in the ass. Last year they sucked, had no leadership from the manager, and no leadership from the players. Avila, Frazier, Navarro, Jackson, and Rollins have been on wing teams before. This team needs this in my opinion.

QUOTE (fathom @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 01:23 PM) They specifically said Rollins? Spiegel said this is a case of veteran players seeing the way it's been done in winning clubhouses and putting a stop to it. Then Bernstein said " Does Jimmy Rollins really think it's worth it though"? and Spiegel kind of just like laughed because Bernstein gave up the name.

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 01:20 PM) So Sale told KW "get the f*** out of the clubhouse"? I feel bad for KW if Rollins/Avila really did tell him that the Drake stuff was getting old, and then Sale goes crazy on KW Sale is an idiot though. I mean he's an awesome pitcher and I'm glad he's on the team but he's not the most intelligent guy around.

Bernstein and Spiegel basically just confirmed that a group of players led by Jimmy Rollins went to management. I understand Sale wanting to police their own room but they've done a poor job of doing that to this point and their manager doesn't do it. This is a case of new veteran players coming in and deciding that this had to stop.