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The White Sox are posturing guys. I think they are in a good spot too. If they really want him on a 4 year deal it does them no good to leak out that they want a 4th year. Allows someone else to swoop in and go 5. I think the White Sox are the favorites for Cespedes. I could be wrong. I won't be joining the freakout though until I know for sure that Avi is the starting RF.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 7, 2016 -> 02:07 PM) That part seems obvious, they'd give him the 4th year because the White Sox were offering 3 years and they upped their deal to beat that? No. If the Sox were offering 3 years, I'm pretty sure the Royals would have re-signed him to a 3 year deal with a 4th year option. We weren't getting him for the same price as Kansas City.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Jan 7, 2016 -> 10:19 AM) Baseball America ‏@BaseballAmerica 3m3 minutes ago College Top 100 Draft Prospects: Big Gators lefthander A.J. Puk leads the way. http://bba.am/MIwozg I posted this yesterday. Scroll up 5 posts.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jan 7, 2016 -> 11:22 AM) I'm guessing that is what it is. And if the White Sox were the competition with KC for Gordon, why would KC have had to offer 4 years with an option for a 5th if the White Sox were only offering 3? That is another thing that doesn't make much sense. So either the Sox were offering 4 or 3 with an easily attainable 4th year vesting option or another team was offering 4. This is a great point. My guess is that the White sox offered something like 4 years and $75-$80 million.

QUOTE (spiderman @ Jan 7, 2016 -> 10:09 AM) That could be a reasonable position to take in terms of Gordon, but what if the White Sox have this same standard for Cespedes or Upton? Do you really believe that they do though? I don't.

QUOTE (SoCalSox @ Jan 7, 2016 -> 09:55 AM) If the Sox think they can get one of those two for three years or less, we might as well get over the fact that they aren't landing one now. I don't think they actually believe this but I also don't think that these guys have markets. The Orioles can't afford Davis and Upton/Cespedes. Giants are trying to trade for Ozuna and are linked to Fowler. Angels supposedly have no $$. Detroit is supposedly out of $$. The Rangers want Upton on a shorter deal. I still think the Sox are the favorites for Cespedes but I could be very wrong.

QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Jan 7, 2016 -> 08:42 AM) I thought they would give Lovie another year. I wonder if it has something to do with personal decisions. There were 6-6 and finished 6-10. Their drafts have been good (Jason Licht makes the picks) but Lovie runs free agency, the 53, and has personnel control. Here is why he got fired: Michael Johnson, Alterraun Verner, Dane Fletcher, Bruce Carter, Sterling Moore, Henry Melton, Tim jennings, Chris Conte, and Major Wright. Hitching your wagon to bad football players usually ends up being your demise.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jan 7, 2016 -> 08:45 AM) What is your solution, other than the obvious? Waiting with bated breath...as for Duensing, he is good friends with Gordon and I would have invited him to come in and compete with Jennings, Carroll, Beck and Turner as a non roster invitee. No guaranteed salary. Gordon wasn't coming to the Sox. He had his heart set on staying in KC and they eventually ponied up. Sox could have offered 4 years and $80 million (which is the most I would have offered) and I believe he stays in KC still.

I wonder what the Cubs would want for Chris Coghlan? He'd be fine as the LH portion of a platoon with someone like Austin Jackson/Steve Pearce.

QUOTE (zenryan @ Jan 6, 2016 -> 10:08 PM) Well the Glazers had Chip Kelly a few years ago until he changed his mind at the last second. Any coach would want a chance to come to an organization where you have a franchise QB who just turned 22 today. The Glazers better not have made this move bc they were scared of losing Dirk Koetter. Koetter was a good OC but that doesn't mean that he should be a HC. Some guys are just coordinators. Nothing wrong with that. I think it'll be Josh McDaniels. Spent 5 years with Jason Licht and he's leading the search.

QUOTE (zenryan @ Jan 6, 2016 -> 09:52 PM) Bucs were top 10 in total offense coming into the final week. Thought he should've been given another year with Winston. In general, I think teams that have this much coaching turnover are dumb. Lovie is a bad coach though and a terrible talent evaluator. He had personnel control and made many questionable decisions. They'll be bringing in an offensive guy.

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Jan 6, 2016 -> 02:07 PM) Don't worry, his source was NickyMitch93. Much better than raBBit, for sure. That Nicky Mitch is full of crap

QUOTE (Saufley @ Jan 6, 2016 -> 02:05 PM) Who's idea was it to bat him second? RV? It was a good idea. He was their best hitter. That gives him the most plate appearances

If I had to guess I'd still say: WhiteSox/Cespedes, Upton/Angels, Orioles/Davis, Giants/Fowler

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Jan 6, 2016 -> 11:34 AM) And the Cards get one of those bogus "market comp" picks too I think. There's your "cardinal way." As soon as Kennedy and Upton sign, the Sox move back two spots as well. They are technically 29 right now.

QUOTE (ptatc @ Jan 6, 2016 -> 07:50 AM) Only those who cheated the game. They do not deserrve the fame. I disagree. You have absolutely no idea who cheated the game and who didn't. There are people in there currently who have cheated the game most likely.

QUOTE (GreatScott82 @ Jan 6, 2016 -> 10:31 AM) Watch Hahn surprise everyone and trade for CarGo. They don't have the pieces for CarGo.

QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Jan 6, 2016 -> 10:13 AM) I bet Denver resigns Wolfe and Miller. They are going to have a ton of cap room with Manning leaving. Have you looked at their cap and # of free agents? They have to sign Osweiler if they want him as well.

QUOTE (Dunt @ Jan 6, 2016 -> 10:03 AM) If they f*** this up by going on the cheap, good luck drawing this season. No f***ing chance. How are they being cheap though? Dumbasses on twitter are criticizing the Sox too. It's just stupid. If Gordon went back to KC for 4 years and $72 million that means he likely wouldn't have come to Chicago for 4 years and $80 million anyway which is the max that the White Sox should have offered to a 32 year old player. Relax people. Just because he stayed in KC doesn't mean the White Sox did something wrong.

If the Sox can lock up Cespedes, it's actually not a terrible thing. Get to keep the draft pick and still upgrade the team. Also, the Royals signing Gordon basically pushes Hosmer and Cain out of town before long.

If the White Sox indeed offered more money, there's not much else they could do. He wanted to stay.

http://www.baseballamerica.com/college/160109/ This is Baseball America's College Top 100 1. AJ Puk LHP Florida 2. Alec Hansen RHP Oklahoma 3. Corey Ray OF Louisville 4. Buddy Reed CF Florida 5. Nick Senzel 3B/OF Tennessee 6. Kyle Funkhouser RHP Louisville 7. Connor Jones RHP Virginia 8. Kyle Lewis OF Mercer 9. Matt Krook LHP Oregon (Injury) 10. Robert Tyler RHP Georgia 14. Cal Quantrill RHP Stanford (Injury) 17. Nick Banks OF Texas A&M 18. Bobby Dalbec 3B Arizona 19. Jordan Sheffield RHP Vandy 25. Chris Okey C Clemson

QUOTE (scs787 @ Jan 5, 2016 -> 11:21 PM) I disagree, at least on Houston anyway. Houston lined up as a linebacker on 80% of his snaps in Oakland, and it's what got him paid. I think people forget that. I also seem to remember him grading out as one of the best against the run in Oakland as well. Yeah I wouldn't run either guy out of town. Neither of them make much money. Unless you can get like a 4th or 5th for either guy, there's no reason to release them.

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Jan 5, 2016 -> 09:36 PM) Why do you all like Derek Wolfe so much? He's a good player. John Fox loves him. And he's the most likely free agent signing of all the guys available in my opinion

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Jan 5, 2016 -> 02:55 PM) Is the Hall of Fame significantly flawed? Yes. Is the Hall of Fame an irrelevant joke? No. It's a HOF without some of the best players to ever play the game. It's a joke.