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QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Dec 4, 2015 -> 09:25 AM) Now this is a very intriguing bat. http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2015/12/hyun...offers-kbo.html Stats http://www.baseball-reference.com/register...id=kim---004hye Has some pop and with high OBP potential. Hope the Sox are looking into this player. Mods: could you please correct my spell checker? The first name should read Hyeon-soo. Grrr. Where would the White Sox play him?

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Dec 4, 2015 -> 09:03 AM) If* he passes it... recently more players have been failing them. Still rare, but a possibility. He'll pass.

QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Dec 4, 2015 -> 08:14 AM) I don't understand what the economics of this deal haven't been announced. The Sox haven't announced the deal yet and probably won't until he passes a physical.

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Dec 4, 2015 -> 08:39 AM) I think the Dodgers can find a better deal for Ethier than trading for LaRoche only to release him. Ethier's value has rebounded and could go up more depending on how much the big FA outfielders contracts look after they've signed. Danks could be a somewhat realistic option but very doubtful since the Dodgers need a legit front line starter and have McCarthy coming back. Danks would certainly fit into that ball park very well though. Yeah you are probably right. Ethier doesn't really make sense on the Sox though with LaRoche also on the team. That's why I put it the way I did.

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Dec 4, 2015 -> 07:54 AM) I agree about going after McMahon but with first base open for the Rockies they can put McMahon there when he's ready. That said, myself and a few others have been talking since mid summer about trying to trade Montas for McMahon since they are rated so closely together in the top 100 with Montas as #54 and McMahon at #50. In theory its a fit but if the Rockies are high on McMahon then the Sox might be SOL. Arenado will be on another team by the time McMahon is ready. McMahon was in A+ last year.

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Dec 4, 2015 -> 07:57 AM) I wouldn't mind Ethier but I can't see why the Dodgers would take LaRoche just to sit him on the bench. Well Rosenthal tweeted this morning that they'd like to move one of Ethier or Crawford. The only way it works for White Sox is without LaRoche. They could take LaRoche back and release him. They've done it before. Multiple times.

Should the White Sox be interested in Andre Ethier if the Dodgers would eat LaRoche's contract? Ethier is 33 years old and is owed $37.5 million the next 2 years. How much would the Dodgers have to eat? Ethier put up a 2.9 fWAR and had a wRC+ of 137 last year. He was really good vs RHP. Vs RHP: .385 wOBA, 150 wRC+, high .336 BABIP, with a .900 OPS. My question is: What would it take? Who would the Dodgers have to take back in return and how much money would they have to eat? Ethier would give the Sox the LH run producer against RHP that they need and if they could dump LaRoche, it could give them flexibility with DH spot.

Trade for Brett Lawrie. Sign Asdrubal Cabrera to 1 year $6.5 million deal.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Dec 3, 2015 -> 02:27 PM) I'll stop, lest I become a pest in this thread. Just remember, Greg was against the move. File it under "he didn't like it." There's no reason to not like it better than the alternative though. You're not making any sense right now. There's not some magical catcher tree to pluck guys from.

QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Dec 3, 2015 -> 02:21 PM) Kudos, I like this platoon. The upside is pretty high IMO. Downside is that Avila is toast but in that scenario you hope Navarro can take over full time. Doesn't seem the ORG valued the pitch framing metric as much as some of our posters here. FWIW I have no idea who is right but it is one data point that at least the Sox perhaps don't consider it that important. Hahn values pitch framing. It's one of the main reasons why he's chased Jason Castro, Miguel Montero, and Yasmani Grandal. He decided that pitch framing doesn't make up for being horrible offensively and allowing 15 passed balls however.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Dec 3, 2015 -> 01:51 PM) Have you looked at his stats? He played in 54 games and hit as badly as Avila did. They both did draw some walks though, improving the catcher spot in ability to take a walk I guess. Greg, Navarro had an .894 OPS vs LHP last season. Should be a decent platoon. It's definitely not worse.

QUOTE (lord chas @ Dec 2, 2015 -> 08:21 PM) Does any Score personality not constantly push their political agendas? They don't unless there's a shooting or something.

Should still have him for 2 more years of control too right?

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Dec 3, 2015 -> 07:49 AM) Here's MLB.com top 50 board too for the 2016 Draft http://m.mlb.com/prospects/2016/?list=draft Lots of pitchers and OF. Watching Dalbec and Okey's years will be interesting. That Puerto Rican SS is very intriguing to me too. Should be fun with 3 pretty valuable picks on the first night.

Nats are trying to trade Yunel Escobar. Is anyone interested? Had a 2 WAR season highlighted by a wRc+ of 120

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Dec 3, 2015 -> 09:54 AM) And Miller is the pass catching TE who has pretty much taken away Bennetts targets The Bears will not go into next season with Zach Miller and Khari Lee as their top 2 TE's. I think they'll sign a TE in free agency (they aren't expensive) and re-sign Miller. Khari is a TE3. Which is fine.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Dec 3, 2015 -> 09:06 AM) Bears arent gonna be drafting or signing a TE when they traded a 6th rounder for Khari Lee. Khari Lee is strictly a blocking TE though.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Dec 3, 2015 -> 08:54 AM) I just dont believe in this pitch framing stat being a good evaluation tool for catchers. Top tier SP's are going to skew that stat in favor of whoever their catcher is. Not true. I just read Big Data Baseball by Travis Sawchik. It details the Pirates use of it. Cervelli/Martin definitely made a difference in this area with the Charlie Morton's and Jeff Locke's of the world. It might be overrated but it is a real thing that's useful.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Dec 3, 2015 -> 08:31 AM) Sounds like Martellus Bennett will be gone after this season. I think they can get a 6th or 7th rounder for him in the offseason. If not, they'll just cut him and move on. Some decent free agent TE's available.

QUOTE (fathom @ Dec 2, 2015 -> 09:23 PM) Simmons sucked tonight LOL. He's absolutely worth tanking for. If you get the #1 pick this year, the fortunes of your franchise change instantly. For as horrible and controversial as Philly has been, if they land the #1 pick, it will have all been worth it.

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Dec 2, 2015 -> 11:16 PM) http://m.mlb.com/news/article/158643882/ca...picid=151437456 Here's MLB.com top 50 board too for the 2016 Draft http://m.mlb.com/prospects/2016/?list=draft

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 3, 2015 -> 07:42 AM) Flowers pitch framing was elite. Navarro's supposedly poor. Flowers did have a tough year behind the plate, Navarro is supposed to be decent behind the plate. This could be a good case study on the importance of pitch framing. Pitchers liked throwing to Flowers, but supposedly they like throwing to Navarro as well. All in all, it isn't an earth shattering upgrade, but perhaps change is good. When you are the Pirates, it is imperative. Russell Martin was a huge reason for their success and Cervelli jumped right in. It's very important for those guys to "steal" strikes and rehab pitchers in the process. It's important for the Sox too but maybe a little less important when you have Sale, Q, and Rodon throwing.

Is there any way that it's Mike Zunino? Seattle has Iannetta and Clevenger...

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Dec 2, 2015 -> 10:33 PM) Not sure who but some AL team will give that LF handed power a shot. Baltimore might be a good fit. I think I'd rather have Carter or Alvarez than LaRoche. Those 2 strikeout a ton but at least I know they'll hit bombs.

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Dec 2, 2015 -> 02:40 PM) lol Did you read the quotes on MLBTR? That's what I was referring to.