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QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Sep 25, 2015 -> 07:52 AM) Aren't there a lot of teams that spent over the cap this year and last year to the point where there aren't many teams that can sign International youngsters for next period? If so, Sox should spend a LOT then. Although I wouldn't complain if they went out and got this kid and EJM now Yes. Braves are supposedly loading up on the 2016 class. Already have agreements in place for next year.

QUOTE (Joshua Strong @ Sep 24, 2015 -> 11:48 PM) Look up Ronald Washington, he's an American and the top projected player in the 2017 draft, he looks just like that. So yes, it is possible for a 16 year old to look like that. Even look at college football recruits, they look like that. If Lazarito was an American, you would not doubt his age. There's a kid from Hinsdale South named Josh King. He's the #1 DE recruit in the country. He won wrestling state at 220 last year as a Junior. He's 17 and is 6-6 250. He is massive. 17 so a tad older, but he definitely looks similar.

QUOTE (captain54 @ Sep 24, 2015 -> 08:49 PM) There were improvements that needed to be made after the 2012 season, for instance. "How did we blow a 3 game lead with 2weeks to play". " how can we fix it"? Instead the Sox proceeded to have one of the worst seasons in modern history. The numbers don't lie. 67 games BELOW AVERAGE since late 2012. Think about it. That's a lot games to make up over 3 yrs to be even mediocre. If the Sox FO were serious about turning things around, we would see a makeover ala Chicago Blackhawks. A fan favorite loyal member of that organization (Savard) was let go in favor of a bonafide solid hockey man. The status quo wasn't working One more thing. If it would have been me, I would have launched both KW and Ozzie late in the 2011 for carrying on how they did and turning this franchise into a children's playground and laughingstock. And Cooper would have been launched this year for chiding the fans on attendance. In essence, insulting the paying customer So go for it. Have faith in an organization that is attempting to turn things around with the same rum dums that produced a 67 game under .500 record over the last three years The Hawks have 3 of the 12 or so best players in the NHL. That has more to do with their success than anything Rocky Wirtz or John McDonough has done. It comes down to talent. It always does. The White Sox don't currently have the young hitters that other teams have. They have tremendous young pitching though with more on the way.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Sep 24, 2015 -> 01:41 PM) Counting the record the last few years would be like holding John Fox responsible if the Bears start out 0-3. They ran out of gas in 2012, it was all they could do. Youk was cashed, Sale was cashed. In 2013 Paulie was hurt, the people's choice at that time behind the plate showed why he was a back up. The Sox traded away pieces at the deadline. Last year was a rebuilding year. No need to get depressed about that record. This year, yeah, it was disappointed, but they are closer than they were a couple of years ago, and plan to get closer in the winter. The difference between good and bad can be a rather slim line. Take the Cubs, what if Houston drafted Bryant? What if Samardzija accepted the extension? What if Arrietta was the same pitcher or slightly better than he was in Baltimore? DA, we are in complete agreement here. Good post.

QUOTE (The Gooch @ Sep 24, 2015 -> 01:44 PM) The need too much help elsewhere to justify taking two QB's early. Like...almost everywhere. True but it also doesn't make sense to read for one. If a stud LT or defensive player that's on the board is way better than the QB that might be, I'd want the sure thing. You have to get studs in the top 10. For example, at this point I'd take Bosa, Jaylen Smith, the DT at Ole Miss, or either of the LT's before any of the QBs. Cook, Goff, Jones, etc could be the right picks at the time but not at this point looking ahead. They could always trade back into round 1 to take a 1st round QB.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 24, 2015 -> 12:07 AM) I'm not a sexist. I mean look, Carly ruined HP and I don't like these big-time CEOs of companies that get paid zillions of dollars when the little guy gets much less. Hillary? Geez. There are so many examples of her being just an elitist-type mean person. I don't want her in the White House, sorry. And ooops add Sarah Palin to my dislike/hate list. I mean I just don't like anything bout her, either. From her policies to her demeanor, me no likey Palin. Now Elizabeth Dole?? I love her. Class act. Wonderful! Give me some more choices. Not Florina and Hilly for gosh sakes. I respect many many people on soxtalk. I just don't see how anybody who likes a good hot dog and beer and ballgame, a down and dirty Chicago southsider, can be for somebody who comes across as so non-chicago as Hilly! Again, I will support women! Just not Hilly/Florina/Sarah. What about Elizabeth Warren? I like her.

QUOTE (Brian @ Sep 22, 2015 -> 06:19 AM) We all wish he was better. He is what he is. Not great but better than what we've had since Jim Miller was healthy for the few games he was or the first half of 06 for Rex. Think it was 06. God, time flies. Cutler is the best QB in the history of the franchise. That really doesn't mean what it should mean though.

QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Sep 24, 2015 -> 10:57 AM) I actually like Kerry Sayers but I am very biased as she was the lead reporter for Fox Chicago White Sox baseball coverage in 2005. I always liked Kerry on tv. She was fine on Comcast too. Just really bad on the radio.

QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ Sep 24, 2015 -> 10:52 AM) On paper the moves the Sox made were well regarded by baseball people (not just fans) across the board. SOMETHING happens when those guys put on the uniform however and this has been happening for years...you can go all the way back to David Wells. There is something about the front office / culture of the franchise that is at least in some way responsible for this happening. Until that changes, until new people are brought in to the front office and individuals are held accountable for results by their jobs being on the line, you are going to see more of this stuff happening. The Sox have a historical baseline long enough now to tell me it's chronic under the individuals responsible for running the franchise. Just my thoughts. Mark It worked just fine in 2005.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Sep 24, 2015 -> 10:17 AM) Apparently never seen the ones that were tested to confirm that they were hers. Julie DiCaro ‏@JulieDiCaro 12m12 minutes ago Obviously, the accuser's camp would like to verify that the undergarments tested belonged to her, especially in light of yesterday's events Julie DiCaro ‏@JulieDiCaro 11m11 minutes ago I am NOT saying the underwear has disappeared, just that the accuser's attorneys have never seen it or been given access to it. Probably the wrong thread for it but Julie DiCaro sucks at her job. She supposedly has a Law Degree and stutters through updates every day. Nobody ever says anything because she's the token female employee at The Score now that Kerry Sayers (who was also terrible) is gone.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Sep 24, 2015 -> 09:45 AM) Wouldn't FanGraphs' numbers compensate for the lack of defense behind him? Yes. In fairness to you, that's why I used fan graphs. Baseball Reference would probably be different because they use what actually happened as opposed to what "should have" happened in theory. I think fan graphs is a more accurate representation for pitchers though.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Sep 24, 2015 -> 08:32 AM) Only guy available that I'd really want is Freese. Free agent market is terrible this year (besides Upton, Heyward, Cespedes) besides pitching. I'd take Zobrist for the short-term. I'd see if there's a way to acquire Alex Guerrero from the Dodgers.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Sep 24, 2015 -> 08:36 AM) The award isn't for the 3 best pitchers in the AL though. It's for the 3 pitchers who had the best seasons in 2015. Those are two different arguments. http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=...=&players=0 I know that we watched him all year and he had some bad starts. Fangraphs still has him as the 4th best pitcher in all of baseball too though.

QUOTE (flavum @ Sep 24, 2015 -> 08:01 AM) If anyone votes for him 3rd, I'd be very surprised. Well one of the 3 best pitchers in the AL wouldn't finish in the top 3 in voting then. Which would be dumb. Not that it really matters anyway though. The only knock Sale really has against him is the fewer innings this year.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Sep 24, 2015 -> 07:44 AM) I get that the defense sucks, but tough s***. The award honors the player who had the best season on the field, not the player who should have had the best season. I don't mind looking at FIP, but what actually happened on the field should have a higher bearing on the award. He's not getting the award. It's about him being top 3.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Sep 24, 2015 -> 07:34 AM) Did you actually look at numbers though? Sale's FIP is higher. He's accumulated more WAR as well. Look at the difference in Sale's ERA and FIP. The White Sox defense is horrible. They all have thrown more innings than Sale though.

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Sep 23, 2015 -> 03:43 PM) I love Sale as much as the next poster, but there's no way he finishes top three in Cy voting. Did you actually look at numbers though? Sale's FIP is higher. He's accumulated more WAR as well. Look at the difference in Sale's ERA and FIP. The White Sox defense is horrible.

I'd need Urias, Seager, Puig, and Grandal for sure. Dodgers would never do that.

AL 1. Price 2. Sale 3. Keuchel 4. Kluber NL 1. Kershaw 2. Greinke 3. Arrieta

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 23, 2015 -> 11:44 AM) Agreed. I see no realistic scenario where that happens. He's going to get like $160+ million.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Sep 23, 2015 -> 11:01 AM) Just get in the top 10 and sign Jason Heyward. They aren't doing that. Heyward is a pipe dream.

QUOTE (bjm676 @ Sep 23, 2015 -> 11:09 AM) Probably sign just Robertson and Cabrera. They needed a closer. Badly. I could see why they overspent. Cabrera has done everything they asked of him. They shouldn't regret signing him, I remember we were all excited on here when they got Shark, too. Nobody expected him to turn out like this. Semien and Phegley were expendable. LaRoche. Well, he's another story. This offseason will definitely be interesting, that's for sure. How different would the team have fared with Adam Lind, Miguel Montero, Melky Cabrera, Samardzija, Duke, and Robertson as the additions? The Sox apparently finished 2nd in acquiring Lind and 2nd in acquiring Heyward. They would have given up more prospects but that team would have been a lot better potentially.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Sep 23, 2015 -> 10:54 AM) Using just WAR, ERA, and FIP. Greinke: ERA 1.65 FIP 2.77 WAR 5.5 Kershaw ERA 2.18 FIP 2.09 WAR 7.8 Arrieta ERA 1.88 FIP 2.44 WAR 6.7 Clayton Kershaw is the best pitcher in baseball. He should also win the CY Young again. Looking at the AL David Price ERA 2.34 FIP 2.76 WAR 6.3 Chris Sale ERA 3.47 FIP 2.67 WAR 6.0 Dallas Keuchel ERA 2.51 FIP 2.89 WAR 5.8 Chris Archer ERA 2.92 FIP 2.74 WAR 5.4 David Price is probably going to win the AL Cy Young. Even with his struggles at times, Sale should be right in the mix though. God the Sox defense is atrocious.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Sep 23, 2015 -> 10:38 AM) I am sorry...it has to be one of the Dodgers. Greinke is putting up an unheard of ERA. Advanced stats be damned, he is minimizing actual runs at an insane clip. If you want to go more sabr, then Kershaw is the beast he always is. Hands down it should be one of those two. Using just WAR, ERA, and FIP. Greinke: ERA 1.65 FIP 2.77 WAR 5.5 Kershaw ERA 2.18 FIP 2.09 WAR 7.8 Arrieta ERA 1.88 FIP 2.44 WAR 6.7 Clayton Kershaw is the best pitcher in baseball. He should also win the CY Young again.

QUOTE (Dunt @ Sep 23, 2015 -> 10:12 AM) His splits indicate he isn't much of a platoon option. Saladino should be getting more of the playing time, he is the better player. I'd argue that there is no indication of anything because he only has 400 major league plate appearances.