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QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Aug 24, 2015 -> 11:42 PM) I already don't watch much sox ball because I f***ing hate Robin as manager. This team is lazy, dumb and sucks. I can't wait til the offseason. f*** Shark too. How do you suck so bad in a contract year? f***ing bum I don't watch that much currently but it has nothing to do with the manager. The White Sox don't have enough good players. That's why they are a below average team.

QUOTE (My_Sox_Summer @ Aug 19, 2015 -> 06:12 PM) I am guessing I will have some extra. Don't need the Pods, we'll work something out. Awesome. I'd be interested. Just let me know.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 24, 2015 -> 11:01 AM) http://www.csnchicago.com/white-sox/monito...s-worked-so-far I wonder how Rodon's season would look if Flowers caught him every time he pitched.

QUOTE (maggsmaggs @ Aug 21, 2015 -> 08:57 PM) At least Santos and Reed have been worth a combined 0.4 career WAR since being traded from the Sox (Santos: 0.0; Reed: 0.4). What does Santos have anything to do with Matt Davidson?

QUOTE (Mike F. @ Aug 20, 2015 -> 03:19 PM) Where do you guys think Sale ranks in the Cy Young race? I think as of now, he'll finish 3rd behind Gray and Keuchel. Should be 1st. Has the best FIP in the AL.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/2...ender/32030123/ Bob NIghtengale again saying that he expects Kenny Williams to take over in Seattle or Toronto. Very interesting stuff. Nightengale is pretty plugged in with White Sox info.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 19, 2015 -> 08:00 PM) I'd be more willing to consider it if people weren't bringing up things like "Quintana" for him. If we're going to take him it's because Boston is dropping him for much less than what he's worth. While you say "he can still rake", he's been a negative value player this year and that can't be ignored. There is a solid chance he'll recover next year, but there is also a solid chance that his bat will slowly decline from here while his glove gets worse from here. If Boston was throwing in lots of money then I could maybe be convinced to give up the kind of deal for him the White Sox gave up for Samardzija, a deal where we sacrifice more of our thin minor league depth for him, or maybe clear out something like Robertson, but I'm not going to give up top flight pieces even if Boston is chipping in a lot of money, given that risk, and Boston IMO isn't likely to dump him for such little value that I'd be interested unless they are 100% convinced he's finished. Yeah we agree on this.

QUOTE (Vance Law @ Aug 19, 2015 -> 07:11 PM) Nope. He was an above average defensive shortstop 2 years ago and an acceptable one last year. There's little to suggest he couldn't handle third base. I'm not arguing that Hanley's without warts or even that this is the best solution. More arguing against dumb counterarguments at this point. With a team that has been deficient offensively and in need of upgrades at least somewhere, and with a glut of middle infield options under control, and with the virtual non-existence of catchers who can hit, so far I've seen the suggestion of no human who could/should play 3rd base for the White Sox in 2016 other than Tyler Saladino. Anybody who is smart and often has interesting things to say have any other possible thoughts? Eminor? Anyone? I agree that it's worth looking into. Hanley can rake. He still can. I'd take him if Boston paid most of the bill and put him at DH. The "hell no" and "no way" and "absolutely not" statements can't really be taken seriously at this point when the offense is as bad as it is. I need to see the deal before I really comment one way or another.

QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ Aug 19, 2015 -> 07:06 PM) Someone mentioned the Tigers and being in contract hell but they failed to mention The Tigers also: Won the division or made the playoffs four years in a row Went to the World Series twice Have an owner with more money than God. What does he care about the size and length of those deals? He'll just go out and spend more to replace those guys. From Detroit's standpoint based on the results I have to think they feel it was completely worth it. Mark They also have the 32nd ranked farm system in major league baseball

QUOTE (Knackattack @ Aug 19, 2015 -> 02:38 PM) Flowers should play only to catch Sale or when Geo physically can't go. Soto is so much better and it's inexcusable to sit him so much in favor of Flowers. Soto is a better hitter. That's it though.

Cleveland, Seattle, Oakland, and Boston all have priority over the Sox. He's a guy that I'd definitely claim though. Even if he needs to be on the 25, I'd just send down Trayce to make room and bring him back in September. Choice was the 10th overall pick in the draft and has put up decent offensive numbers in the minors. Those are guys that I love getting for free. This org loves former 1st rounders as well.

QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Aug 19, 2015 -> 11:31 AM) How is he definitely a Hahn guy? He is just another internal promotion, like re-arranging chairs on the Titanic. Well I happen to know that he is. Not sure how much I'm allowed to say in a forum like this. raBBit may be able to help out here.

QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Aug 19, 2015 -> 10:44 AM) To me it's sort of like beating your head against the wall at this point. I really don't think you're going to see any major changes in the FO or in Robin and his staff in 2016. I think the fact that RV went 85-77 and almost won manager of the year in 2012 still matters more than his overall sub .500 performance. In fact, I think Tyler Flowers will be behind the plate and Adam LaRoche will be your DH/1B as well...or at least, we should not be surprised if that's the case. Rick Hahn was a highly coveted commodity not so long ago -- he turned down the Cardinals and was ranked #1 GM prospect by SI and others. If we credit Hahn with the moves since October '12, then you have to say he's had some winners and losers but it's also fair to say that he deserves more time. For me the biggest question with Rick is this: Is he really in charge of the key decisions being made? Are Doug Lauman, Nick Capra and Buddy Bell the guys he wants? Is RV and/or anyone on his staff the guys he wants? If the Sox made a splashy move and brought in a guy like Dombrowski then you would assume that every significant decision from there on out would be on his approval -- coaching staff, scouting, etc. If the Sox dumped at the deadline or went for it then you'd feel pretty sure that it was a Dombrowski decision. Right now it's tough to say. Nick Hostetler is definitely a Rick Hahn guy. I want KW to leave because I'd like to see Hahn run it on his own. He may fail but at least we'd have clarity as far as knowing who's responsible for the moves being made.

QUOTE (maggsmaggs @ Aug 19, 2015 -> 07:24 AM) Zangari had another nice game. He seems very comparable to the Cubs' Vogelbach. Both large men (Vogelbach a little more compact though because he is shorter) and pure left-handed mashers. Both also profile as 1B/DH. Zangari's next step is to work on that BB rate. Zangari hits Right-handed.

I haven't been watching MLB Network today but apparently Nightengale was on and mentioned that he thought Kenny Williams would end up in Seattle or Toronto. It's interesting if true because Bob Nightengale has always been a mouthpiece for Kenny. May actually be some smoke here.

I'd like a Jermaine Dye bobble head from this next Saturday's game. I could pay someone for it or trade a Podsednik from the previous giveaway. Thanks.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 17, 2015 -> 11:54 PM) Boni got DFA'ed which was correct call. It's time to cut ties with Beckham forever. Gordon just can't cut it. Time to forget about Gordo forever. Micah can't do any worse in the backup role. Micah can only play 2B though.

QUOTE (Sox Fan In Husker Land @ Aug 17, 2015 -> 11:44 PM) But have you seen his pitch framing, I hear it's amazing. I know this is sarcasm but I believe he's top 5 in baseball in pitch framing. It's a big deal. Pitchers also like throwing to him. Rodon has been great with Flowers behind the dish. I would expect that Flowers will be on the Sox for years to come. They just need to get a better starting catcher and let TFlow catch Sale and Rodon.

He got hurt during OTA's. They knew it was a stress fracture though. They tried to heal it with rest and avoid all of these questions. When he ramped his workouts back up, he realized that it still hurt and the team opted for surgery. He has a 3-6 month recovery time and will most likely miss his rookie season but he should be 100% once he returns.

QUOTE (thxfrthmmrs @ Aug 16, 2015 -> 08:40 PM) Except Shields had a 3.20 ERA last season and a much better track record than Shark. He was also the 2nd3/rd best pitcher in the class. 2016 is loaded with free agent pitchers. Shields is also older than Shark is.

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Aug 16, 2015 -> 04:06 PM) and Belisario You can't mention Paulino without also mentioning Gillaspie, Soto, Putnam, Albers. Those guys last 3 were all minor league deals that hit.

QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ Aug 15, 2015 -> 11:59 PM) Maybe DJ already knows. His contract like Stone's is up after this season. And if you're referring to Bob Waller that's incorrect. Waller was fired because of his pre game show with Chuck Tanner on the last day of the 1974 season. Chuck (God rest his soul) was talking about all the positive things the Sox did and Waller simply got tired of the spin and asked him why weren't they winning then? Tanner got so mad he walked off the field in the middle of the live pregame show. Waller spent the rest of the time asking questions and giving "truthful" answers to them. Ownership was not amused. The only partner Harry had (and he was a mentor to me) that he didn't like and made no bones about it was J.C. Martin. Harry felt he had no business being in a broadcast booth. I know J.C. have interviewed him, an extremely nice guy but Harry was right. J.C. was brutal. Mark I'd see if they could take Dave Wills from Tampa Bay. Give him the radio booth with DJ and fire Farmer.

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Aug 16, 2015 -> 07:49 AM) A ton of my Twitter feed was completely freaking out about Jameis and the Bucs after last night. Granted, I didn't watch any of the game last night but cmon people. The problem is that their OL is awful and OT Demar Dotson went down last night. They have playmakers on offense and a rookie QB that should flash positive things and make mistakes. I think about 6-10 is right for Tampa Bay. If Winston is reallllly good, that trajectory can change.

From what I've read and heard: It seems like White's recovery time is 3-6 months but will be 100% after. This is a smart move even though it really sucks because I wanted to see him this season.

Heyward will be way too expensive and not worth it. He's a great player but so much of his value comes from defense. If the Sox are going to spend what it takes to get Heyward, I'd rather have better hitters. They need offense and Heyward just doesn't provide enough of it.