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QUOTE (southside hitman @ Aug 5, 2015 -> 03:14 PM) I think you said it here, the Sox are trusted to evaluate pitching talent and have a track record of handling guys who other organizations might be scared off by their mechanics. If Anderson hits his very high ceiling he will make this look silly agreed, but he has quite a bit more development ahead of him where Fulmer is likely closer to the majors to be honest. Of course he's closer to the majors. Junior Guerra is closer to the majors but he shouldn't be a top 30 prospect either.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Aug 5, 2015 -> 02:50 PM) Albers was up in the 2nd inning. I think there is more to it than playing like they can't afford another loss. You're probably right. Doug Padilla tweeted something about how they want him to use his improved defense rather than trying to strike everyone out

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Aug 5, 2015 -> 02:58 PM) The best collegiate pitcher who's more refined vs. a young hitter with a virtually unlimited toolbox but higher possibility of busting is always going to be an interesting scout's debate, then you have the premium position vs. a starting pitcher who only gets into 32-33 games per season. Fulmer isn't Carlos Rodon though. People need to stop thinking like this. I like him. I trust the Sox on pitching. But Fulmer isn't a sure thing to be a starting pitcher long-term.

I think Carson Fulmer ahead of Tim Anderson is crazy but the rest of the list is about what I expected.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Aug 5, 2015 -> 02:39 PM) Rodon had like 82 pitches....now we act like it's the 7th game of the World Series instead of letting him learn how to pitch through it? Sigh. Typical White Sox. I agree. Worrying about a mythical wildcard berth rather than developing a young pitcher.

QUOTE (oldsox @ Aug 4, 2015 -> 06:13 PM) Did Hawk fire DD? Yes he did. Then Dombrowski went on to Montreal under Bill Stoneman (Current Angels Interim GM) to be farm Director and then GM. In 1991, he left to take Marlins GM job under John Henry. Then the Detroit years.

QUOTE (bear_brian @ Aug 4, 2015 -> 05:02 PM) You could be right about the prospects, but I am sure Willis was the sticking point for us; and, as I recall, Kenny thought he had the deal done - he was crowing to the writers at that moment, similar to what he was saying before we lost Tori Hunter to the Angels. Bottom line - Dombrowski delivered the goods, acquiring one of baseball's all-time best hitters. Kenny did have the deal done. Reinsdorf wouldn't take on Dontrelle Willis.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 1, 2015 -> 03:05 AM) I agree. The Sox are just going to draft a college pitcher who will turn into a reliever probably. This Sox team keeps creeping to .500 then goes in the tank. That's just wrong. This team is so close to contention it's disappointing to me every time they lose. Kind of like Sale, Rodon, and Fulmer huh? Don't speak about things you have no clue about.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 4, 2015 -> 09:31 AM) I don't think that it wasn't taken seriously at all. I think it was an organized philosophy of chasing the ring for many years which led them to put resources into the major league team instead of the draft. The number from a few years back about the Sox having a long period of time when they were last in draft spending proved that out to me. They would have rather drafted lower players, and pay them less, and instead used the money to put back into the major league team. That has definitely changed over the last five years or so, along with a re-emergence of working hard in Latin American with Marco Paddy's arrival. I agree with your points but that philosophy is ridiculous. It's a franchise in Chicago. There was no excuse to not spend on the big league team and on the draft at the same time. It has been much better.

QUOTE (LDF @ Aug 4, 2015 -> 06:30 AM) the main philosophy is between college vs hs. kids. i think there has to be a happy medium between the 2. however the sox like college in the 1 round, b/c that person will be closest to the majors. i will admit high ceiling vs high floor, well, i guess i will need to really think out that difference in order to make any semblance of an informed answer. let me asked this of those who can answer. to me, i always assumed that the sox picked, esp in the 1 round, prospects who were easy to sign and can make the majors quickly, as oppose to players who were more talented. was that how any saw it??? This is an interesting question. LDF, I believe that it used to be this way. There was a period where the Sox neglected the draft badly and signed "quick to the majors" low upside starters in the 1st round. the Lance Broadways and Chris McCulloughs of the world. It was a terrible time. Then it seemed like Kenny Williams wanted to infuse the system with athletic tools type guys. At the same time, Jerry Reinsdorf didn't want to spend $$ on the amateur draft. Because of this, they used high picks on guys like Jared Mitchell (fine pick at the time), Trayce Thompson and Keenyn Walker. In 2011, Chris Sale kind of fell in their lap and they rightfully chose him. I feel like 2012 is the year in which it flipped though. The draft bonus system changed and kind of leveled the playing field for the White Sox. In 2012, there were rumors of Marcus Stroman and Michael Wacha. College pitchers which have been a typical staple of the White Sox. This time, they took athletic HS OF Courtney Hawkins. In the comp round, they took Keon Barnum. 2013 was similar, there were rumors about the Sox taking college pitching and then they took Tim Anderson from JUCO and Tyler Danish from HS. We all know about 2014. The White Sox spent the 2nd most money in the entire draft and landed Rodon and Adams. Bottom line, the drafts have been much better but it's ridiculous that they weren't always taken seriously prior to the rules being changed.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Aug 4, 2015 -> 04:09 AM) There's only one problem with this...start drafting high schoolers in the first round and Sale/Abreu/Quintana/Eaton will all be long gone before they make it to the big leagues. Rare is the hs player like an A-Rod or Harper who doesn't need at least 2-3 years in the minors, if not 4-5. I agree with this caulfield. The White Sox should have 3 of the top 60 or so picks. I could see them using all 3 on college bats. Honestly, I'd take the best players available regardless of position while manipulating my bonus pool to spend $$ later on. But taking 3 college bats, 2 in the 1st round and one in the 2nd, is something that I could honestly see the White Sox doing.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Aug 4, 2015 -> 07:25 AM) I don't have as much of a problem with them promoting Hostetler. My issue is that Laumann was rewarded for his sub-par performance with a promotion up, just like Kenny Williams. White Sox Baseball: Loyalty without Accountability Who cares though? He's just going into a consulting role which I take as him being pushed aside.

QUOTE (Brian @ Aug 2, 2015 -> 11:46 AM) Bryant has only shown flashes of being a sure thing but his average is going down everyday. I'm sure he'll be good for awhile but I'll wait to see it. He's already put up 3.4 fWAR this year. I think he'll be fine.

This White Sox team is 50-50 since their 0-4 start.

QUOTE (oldsox @ Aug 3, 2015 -> 08:26 PM) Ravelo. Hitting around .350 in AA. Yeah but he doesn't hit for power and he plays 1B. Meh.

McEwing didn't really cost them the game. The next 3 guys could have popped out or struck out. It was stupid and the wrong decision but I blame Duke and Robertson more than a damn coach. Stop blaming coaches for the entire season. It's really lazy.

This isn't even close to the worst loss of the year. That was 1 of the 10 or 15 games this season in which our pitchers gave up 3 or fewer runs and the offense couldn't score. Guys are hitting better now. Too little too late.

QUOTE (bmags @ Aug 3, 2015 -> 03:08 PM) What position was Ego playing? He was playing 5 technique

QUOTE (South Side Fireworks Man @ Aug 3, 2015 -> 04:04 PM) I wish the Sox had a competent front office. The front office didn't do anything wrong in this case. They were going to claim him. Actually, they most likely put in a claim but Oakland has priority.

This clears up some of the questions: http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2015/08/03/whi...nick-hostetler/

QUOTE (bmags @ Aug 3, 2015 -> 02:41 PM) Would love to know what this really means for structure. To me, it looks like they moved Laumann out of the position. Kept him in organization because this is what Jerry Reinsdorf does.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Aug 3, 2015 -> 02:41 PM) Why is it a big move? Because I don't think Doug Laumann is good at his job.

Chicago White SoxVerified account ‏@whitesox White Sox have promoted Nick Hostetler to director of amateur scouting and Doug Laumann to senior advisor to scouting operations. This is a big move.

Chris Cotillo ‏@ChrisCotillo 1m1 minute ago Danny Valencia does not get past Athletics on waivers, as Oakland claims him before CWS could get the chance.

Billy f***ing Beane. Rhett Bollinger ‏@RhettBollinger 2m2 minutes ago Danny Valencia was claimed on waivers by the A's, the Blue Jays just announced in the pressbox