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QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ May 31, 2014 -> 02:43 PM) He may technically be a Sox fan, but he typically s***s all over them while constantly sucking Theo's dick and hyping up the greatness that is the Cubs rebuilding plan. Bernstein has been a big fan of what Rick Hahn has done. It is convenient to hear what you choose to hear though.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ May 31, 2014 -> 01:11 PM) Vogelbach, Pierce Johnson, Alcantra all come to mind for Beckham. Just a few names. The Cubs don't need Beckham though. My guess is STL. Within the next week here I think Baez will start playing 2B and be up sometime by July. They also have Alcantara. Beckham to the Cubs would make zero sense to me.

QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ May 31, 2014 -> 07:43 AM) Boo hoo the Sox are getting national attention for once over the Cubs. Cry me a f***ing river Dickstein. Haha considering Bernstein is a White Sox fan, this is kind of a dumb post.

Dan Bernstein wrote another White Sox related column today. It is right here: http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2014/05/30/ber...wers-white-sox/

QUOTE (chw42 @ May 30, 2014 -> 09:53 AM) I doubt OKC will can Brooks, although I do feel like he's holding the team back. I feel that Vogel's job might be on the line though. There's just way too much drama in Indy. I think they both get fired.

No because similar to Sale, you wouldn't get what Quintana's contract is worth in a trade. Q has been damn good this year.

QUOTE (southside hitman @ May 30, 2014 -> 10:44 AM) I am sure they will be trying to cut deals up until the day. Was it leaked in previous years? I remember the year they took Correa I thought it was surprise. Most people thought that Houston would take Gray last year and Appel/Gray would go to the Cubs. Houston settled on Appel and the Cubs took Bryant. You won't know anything until draft night.

Hitter of the Night: Tim Anderson, SS, White Sox (Winston-Salem, A+): 3-5, R, HR, K. Anderson has plus tools but is also extremely raw, which makes his .279 batting average somewhat impressive, but oh my goodness does his 42-to-4 K:BB rate scare me. This was from BP Today. http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article....articleid=23726

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 29, 2014 -> 11:09 PM) Allen Thomas and the minor league strength and conditioning staff has a HUGE (literally and figuratively) project ahead of them. At least it will be interesting. In some ways, I prefer this direction, even if it blows up, because it's much harder to find an ace than to find a Quintana/Floyd/Humber/Jenks/Santos. In my lifetime, Jose Contreras was the only true ace we got on the cheap, and that only lasted 4-5 months. Loiaza in 2003, but that also didn't last. And then Freddie Garcia, which was only possible due to our farm system and the ability to sign an extension due to the closeness with Guillen's family. Caulfield, we are in agreement here. I would question passing on Rodon/Aiken in favor of Kolek but I agree with your premise completely. I'd much rather swing for the fences and take the chance that Kolek develops into an ace than drafting someone like Nola or Freeland. Nola is going to be solid. At #3, I want a potential ace. Even if some risk is involved.

QUOTE (hi8is @ May 29, 2014 -> 09:45 PM) ESPN Insider request: http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/the-gms-office/post?id=9471 Who does Bowden have us taking? I see he has the Astros taking Rodon. Kolek. It's not based on sources though. Just what he would do.

QUOTE (The Ultimate Champion @ May 29, 2014 -> 01:22 PM) If I ran an MLB team this statement would be engraved on everything I owned and it would be dyed into the carpeting of my office. It's so easy to get tricked into overpaying for a reliever. Never let it happen. Every time you trade a Reed for a Davidson, if things don't work out, you look at the way you evaluated that prospect, not the decision to trade the reliever. We could use another Karchner-for-Garland right about now. This is an excellent post, man.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 29, 2014 -> 11:00 AM) Hoffman is just too much risk for the #3 pick. The highest someone in that situation before went is Giolito. The mid teens. You're talking a year before he's pitching again, another year to bounce back to form (hopefully, if all goes well)...then you're pushing him back all the way into 2017 or 2018. The White Sox are going to want a more immediate contributor than that...unless they believe that Aiken/Kolek are potential aces who can quickly get to the big leagues while Chris Sale/Abreu are still the core of the foundation in Chicago. God I hope they aren't thinking this way. Always take the best player. You don't have to take the best guy that is the closest to the majors. Draft the guy that is #1 on your board when it's time for your pick.

I can't believe people are still advocating giving up that 2nd rounder. Giving away draft picks is not how you sustain success. Again, the Sox wouldn't just lose that 2nd round pick. They'd lose the slot amount for the pick as well. That could be enough to not be able to sign a Rodon that could potentially fall to you. It's just stupid. The Sox won't be in a position to give up a draft pick next year either. It's just stupid and I'm pretty sure it isn't the way that Rick Hahn intends to build this team.

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ May 28, 2014 -> 03:56 PM) Lack of Challenge talk in here has me very disappointed in some of you. I like the format, actually. I can't stand Jordan and am glad he's gone. What a moron.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ May 28, 2014 -> 03:27 PM) Malcolm Glazer dead at 85 http://mweb.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-footb...-dies-at-age-85 I wouldn't have stuck around for the Lovie Smith era either.

QUOTE (juddling @ May 28, 2014 -> 06:31 AM) Saw an ad last night for a new series on NBC starring John Malkovich as Blackbeard ( show is called Crossbones). The ad looked pretty good but I got to wonder why the F*ck would NBC pick Friday night to air the show???? I know with DVR's and such that Friday nights aren't quite the wasteland they used to be but still???? Friday nights???? I hope this show takes off or at least NBC doesn't kill it too early.... I was reading Entertainment Weekly this morning on the elliptical and the writer gave it a D- and said it's awful. Obviously just 1 source.

QUOTE (Boogua @ May 28, 2014 -> 11:38 AM) PG - Stockton SG- Jordan SF- bird PF- Duncan C- Hakeem PG-Magic SG-Jordan SF-Lebron PF-Duncan C-Wilt

QUOTE (RockRaines @ May 28, 2014 -> 11:27 AM) LOL, so fired up. Easy fella. Man, Rock. I saw that you were the latest post in the thread and thought that you had some Beckham news.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 28, 2014 -> 09:19 AM) In the end, he went to the highest bidder, did he not? I can just as easily credit Alexei and Dayan Viciedo for using their influence (which they used). Adolfo's a million miles away from Chicago. We need 3-5 of them every international signing period for those efforts to bear fruition. As far as Marquez and Walker, I was just listing players who we were hyped into believing in by the press/Sox p.r. Haha okay. You could actually come up with a pretty long list of guys hyped by the Sox that ended up being not very good.

I went on a Field Trip yesterday with 7th graders to Springfield. They bickered like this the whole ride back. I thought I had escaped...then I read this thread. Good grief.

QUOTE (oldsox @ May 27, 2014 -> 06:56 PM) So if we draft either Aiken or Kolek, where do they start playing, assuming we can sign the winner? Rookie League, Kanny? If it's Rodon, I bet he starts at AA. We do have the half season team out in Arizona. I would imagine they'd get some innings there. If Kolek is the guy, he will most likely learn a cutter within 10 minutes of signing as well.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 28, 2014 -> 09:07 AM) I give Hahn a lot more credit for pulling the trigger than Paddy. Anyone could see Abreu's talent. It's finding undervalued guys like Alexei Ramirez and Tadahito Iguchi that's MUCH more difficult. Plus, I'm still not over Nestor Molina and disappointed that we put any faith in him, Zach Stewart or Jeff Marquez ever amounting to anything. Keenyn Walker, too. We only know that name because he was the first player drafted that particular year. Bucket, who has been pretty plugged in over the years, is telling you that Paddy was instrumental in signing Abreu. Why don't you believe that? Paddy also was believed to be the driving force in signing Micker Adolfo. Paddy wasn't in the organization for Zach Stewart I didn't think and where did Jeff Marquez come from related to this topic? Marquez came from the Yanks for Swisher.

QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ May 27, 2014 -> 12:57 PM) Reed's had a weird start to the year and if we hadn't all seen him pitch the last few years it would be hard to explain. He has a 4.62 FIP, as you mentioned, but his xFIP (with a league average HR/FB%) is only 3.14. Basically xFIP is sayin ghe's been extremely unlucky on HRs -- however, we've seen Reed pitch and we know this version of him. It's the version that has a 96MPH heater and not much else. When that version comes on teams sit on the fastball and when he grooves one (he's not exactly Greg Maddux with his command) it gets hit hard. Now, he also has a K/BB ratio over 3/1 and is striking out over a batter an inning, so his stuff is still there. But his season is pretty much exactly why Chicago traded him -- he's a good reliever but far, far, far from a "dominant closer". He was about to get way overpaid for being "a closer" and the time was ripe to trade him. Now, Davidson might not pan out, but getting a top 100 prospect that has a 50/50 chance to develop into a solid everday 3B is way more valuable than a 1-2 WAR reliever, ESPECIALLY on a team that has Don Cooper as the pitching coach. The Sox turn turds into gold quite often with Cooper, but they don't have much success with infield prospects. Getting a guy that was near MLB ready was a no brainer for Reed. tl:dr Reed is only a good reliever, not elite, Sox produce those guys on the reg and he was about to get way overpaid, getting Davidson was a fine return, even if it doesn't pan out the thought process was good. This is a great post by the way.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 27, 2014 -> 05:43 PM) I'm perfectly willing to revisit this in August. Maybe the errors don't mean anything and the White Sox are 100% committed to making Anderson the starting SS after Ramirez, and aren't 100% believers in Semien's ability there. To make ANY kind of determination, I'd have to go back and watch video on all those 20+ errors to see what's going on. For that to happen, though, he's going to have to be 750+ OPS bat in the minors, at a minimum. Anderson also gets to more balls than most guys do.