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QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 14, 2014 -> 05:44 AM) It's pretty funny that the Cubs are in a bad position now because they swept the White Sox last year. Ironic. And if the White Sox go with ANYONE outside the big 3, they better have the best #44 pick in the history of the draft and sign him for overslot with the money they save on the #3 (someone like Hoffman or Fedde, for example). Baseball America reports that Fedde, who was recently shut down with an elbow injury, will be undergoing Tommy John surgery. Like Hoffman, you can consider Fedde now off of the board for the Cubs in the first round. The top names remain high school pitchers Brady Aiken and Tyler Kolek, college lefty Carlos Rodon, and high school position players Nick Gordon and Alex Jackson. There are some other interesting college arms – Aaron Nola, Kyle Freeland, Brandon Finnegan, and others – but none appear to be in quite the same tier as the guys expected to go at the top (or with Hoffman/Fedde, either, apparently). Like Hoffman, Fedde is considered such a strong talent that it seems unlikely he’d slip all the way to the Cubs when they pick again at number 45. If he did, of course, he would probably receive strong consideration by the Cubs, because the upside is almost certainly worth the risk of post-surgery recovery. The only question with a guy like that at a pick like that is whether he’d be signable for something close to slot (which won’t be much more than $1 million). As I said with Hoffman, it’s hard to see a guy improving his draft stock too much after a year of merely rehabbing, so the decision not to sign could be the decision to risk the recovery period and a year of pitching in independent ball before being drafted again. That’s quite a risk when stacked against $1 million and a year of rehabbing with the best possible treatment. Fedde will be a name to watch, then, on that first draft day, but I wouldn’t get your hopes up at 45. bleachernation.com If Rodon, Aiken, and Kolek are all gone, I think the Cubs will take Alex Jackson at #4. People will be angry because you just can't reach for pitching if Jackson is the best player on the board.

QUOTE (greg775 @ May 14, 2014 -> 01:30 AM) When are we gonna call Adam Dunn an elephant in the room. He's good for five home runs and 12 ribbies right now. Oooh. Such power. Such production. NOT. Well Dunn's .823 ops is 3rd highest on the team behind Abreu and Ramirez.

QUOTE (greg775 @ May 9, 2014 -> 06:30 PM) So Jerry gets all that income as well? There's no reason the Sox aren't huge spenders in this s*** division. Let's face it, there are some Jerry apologists on here. He got us a WS title so I like him for that and all the Bulls titles, but let's face it, he is not a "good" baseball owner. He's just not. I won't go into all the rea$ons but it's my opinion and I'm sticking to it. Sorry Greg but you aren't allowed to suggest that the owner spend more money. You jump at the chance to mention how expensive everything is at the baseball game nowadays but in the same token, you want the owner to spend more $$ on players. There is quite a disconnect here.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ May 10, 2014 -> 10:21 PM) Obvious Mizzou bias here, but yes. He's undersized but has some real damn broad shoulders and a Joakim Noah motor. He was a projected 2nd/3rd rounder when the season ended, plummeted when he came out. I mean, unanimous All-American and SEC Defensive Player of the Year mean nothing to the NFL...but he played really f***ing good last year. I forgot Kroenke owns the Rams. He lives in Columbia and has Mizzou ties, so it makes sense that they'd take the chance. Well him coming out wasn't why he plummeted though. Dude had a 25 inch vertical and ran a 4.9 forty at the combine. His workout was awful. Hopefully he works his ass off and makes the Rams. It's going to be an uphill climb though.

This thread has just been depressing me lately. If Rodon and Aiken go 1-2, the Sox are in a tough spot. Apparently they don't want Kolek. If that's the case, I don't want the Beede's or Nola's of the world at #3 overall. I would either take Alex Jackson or draft Jeff Hoffman anyway if I could get him underslot. It's better value. Maybe I'm crazy.

QUOTE (PlaySumFnJurny @ May 9, 2014 -> 02:23 PM) It sounds like there is much love for Hageman here, too, although I've heard him repeatedly described as "boom or bust." I'd be happy with him at #51, but leery about giving up picks to take him higher. Supposedly, Bears had him top 15 on their draft board

QUOTE (bshah723 @ May 9, 2014 -> 02:06 PM) Ok, well on second thought posters from where I found this tweet say he throws a lot of things on the wall, hoping one would stick. TFWIW I have a couple of guys that get Bears info semi regularly and they told me that there is some smoke there. They want Hageman. Shocked that he's on the board.

QUOTE (GoSox05 @ May 9, 2014 -> 12:58 PM) Who do they have a top 15 grade on. My guess would be Ra'Shede Hageman.

QUOTE (scs787 @ May 9, 2014 -> 11:32 AM) I'd kinda hate seeing a RB, I know Forte has some injury concerns so it does make some since, but I'd rather wait till the 4/5/6 and grab a guy Tyler Gaffney or Marion Grice. RBs in this league seem to be a dime a dozen. TE would be fairly interesting but with DT and S needs looming, depending on who is there, I'd probably wait. I still have my heart set on the Bears taking Colt Lyerla and hoping that pairing him with Long keeps him out of trouble. In my book ideally it goes... 2R- Hageman/Tuitt 3R- Brooks 4R- Bullough (I've sort of been against drafting another LB but I suppose with Briggs probably gone next year it doesn't hurt) 5R- Lyerla 6R- Gaffney 6R- Bromley I want Lyerla as well. If they go MLB, I think it will be Yawin Smallwood from UCONN. They worked him out and Pasqualoni was his college coach.

QUOTE (scs787 @ May 9, 2014 -> 10:44 AM) Motor and lack of production. His measurables are off the charts though. 6'6" 310 pounds, long 34 inch arms which make his 32 reps at the combine that much more impressive. He was near the top 5 in just about every category at the combine. In the 1R I wouldn't have been that big a fan of the pick, but in the 2nd I'd be all over him. Tuitt would be nice as well I'm hoping for Situation A 2R- Hageman/Tuitt 3R- Joyner/Brooks/Vereen/Reynolds/McGill/SJB or Situation B 2R- Joyner/Brooks 3R- Ried/Quarles/Sutton/Jones I really think that there's a chance they go RB or TE tonight. I'd be totally fine with DT in round 2 and Wyoming S Marqueston Huff in rd 3 though.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ May 9, 2014 -> 10:45 AM) Hageman has a strange past so people consider him a risk. But (imo) he has undeniable talent. I just don't see any way that Hageman gets to #51.

Man people are going to be really mad tonight when Emery takes a DT and a RB. I can't wait. If the choice is between Florida State FS Terrence Brooks and one of the DT's that fell, I'd take the DT any day of the week. Emery supposedly really likes Wyoming S Marqueston Huff as well the chance to convert a CB to safety later on. (Phillip Gaines of Rice, Keith McGill of Utah, and Walt Aikens of Liberty) are all candidates for this. Dream scenario for me is Arizona State DT Will Sutton at #51.

QUOTE (dasox24 @ May 8, 2014 -> 10:42 PM) f*** you, Emery. 3rd straight year you've done this. What the f*** are you doing? And with that, all of the Safeties are gone. We're stuck with what we have. Conte and Mundy starting at Safety. Yikes. What a joke. Hope he's f***ing happy. I like Fuller. But not at 14. And not when the top two Safeties in the draft are still on the board. Further, this is a very deep CB class. Could have gotten a "contributor" in the 2nd-3rd round. In the 1st, you have to take an immediate starter. Not a guy you "expect to contribute." That Emery quote just pisses me off. It's like when he talked about McClellin being a guy who could contribute on special teams. f*** that. You need to take immediate impact guys in the 1st round (unless it's a QB). Then the Packers take our man Clinton-Dix and laugh in our faces. He'll end up picking off Cutler and we're all going to hurt because he could have been ours. I can just see him making some big play to beat the Bears and send the Packers to the playoffs. They beat us on the field and in the off-season every year. I'm getting sick of it. FULLER IS A STARTER! HE WILL PLAY NICKEL IN YEAR 1 AND BE A FIXTURE AT CB AFTER THAT. Lots of stupid going on in this thread.

QUOTE (bmags @ May 8, 2014 -> 10:11 PM) Every time you lost more scouts have claimed he is top corner. Id take Gilbert ten times and twice on Sunday before Fuller. Not a chance in hell. Gilbert doesn't tackle and is not physical. My CB's have to be able to tackle.

Fuller was the right pick. He's the best CB in the draft. You just don't take a safety if Fuller is your highest rated defensive player on the board. Great pick. I looked back in the thread and find it hilarious that many were not happy with the pick. Those people obviously have not watched Fuller play. If they had, they'd be totally on board. Kid is a stud.

QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ May 8, 2014 -> 01:32 PM) OK, I decided to answer my own question. I used the point chart from NBC Sports. Bears 14th pick = 1100 points Jets 18th pick = 900 points Jets 80th pick (Rd 3) = 190 points Jets 209th pick (Rd 6 compensatory) = 7.8 points, total of 1097.8 points I guess if you go "by the book" that would be the deal. Compensatory picks cannot be traded. Id do it for #18, a 3rd, and a 7th.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 8, 2014 -> 01:18 PM) Manish Mehta ‏@MMehtaNYDN 28m Jets have interest in trading up from No. 18. Teams to keep an eye on: Titans at No. 11 and Bears at No. 14. #nyj Probably with Virginia Tech CB Kyle Fuller or LSU WR Odell Beckham JR in mind. Need to get in front of Steelers.

QUOTE (Soxfest @ May 8, 2014 -> 11:41 AM) I listen plenty since Theo has showed up it has been a love fest from Dan, Theo the man with the plan does no wrong. His positive comments on the Sox have been very few. Theo is really smart and I agree with what he is doing as well. He will get it turned around if the owner doesn't get in his way. Bernstein isn't wrong about that praise. Rick Hahn is another smart, forward thinking GM that Bernstein has applauded many times. Bernstein has stated many times how good of a job Hahn has done and how the team is in good hands. Go on hearing what you'd like to hear though.

QUOTE (Soxfest @ May 8, 2014 -> 11:03 AM) Dan has always been a Cub boy and always rips Sox like clockwork. No matter what Sox do it is never going to be good enough compared to the chosen one on the Northside. Never liked Dan B smug ass never will. Umm Dan Bernstein is a White Sox fan.

NFL Draft is tonight....That is all

QUOTE (DirtySox @ May 8, 2014 -> 10:39 AM) Law's Top 100 Draft Prospect list is up. Insider. http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/draft/mock/...h-law-big-board That's the link for Keith Law's board but it is insider. 1. Brady Aiken HS LHP 2. Carlos Rodon LHP NC State 3. Tyler Kolek HS RHP 4. Nick Gordon HS SS 5. Bradley Zimmer OF San Francisco 6. Alex Jackson HS C/OF 7. Grant Holmes HS RHP 8. Erick Fedde RHP UNLV 9. Sean Newcomb LHP Hartford 10. Aaron Nola RHP LSU Other notables: 13. Touissant 14. Beede 15. Gatewood 16. Davidson 19. Finnegan 22. Trea Turner 24. Freeland 25. Jeff Hoffman 72. Casey Gillaspie 70. Providence Catholic RHP Jake Godfrey

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 8, 2014 -> 09:18 AM) Isn't Fedde ranked in the mid to late 20's? That would be a HUGE reach. Even Beede would be ahead of him on the majority of lists. I bet Fedde ends up in the top 10. I would much rather have Fedde than Beede. Beede scares me. He's so erratic.

QUOTE (GoSox05 @ May 8, 2014 -> 08:40 AM) I'd say the Bears take Aaron Donald, but I think he is long gone by the time the Bears draft. So I will go with Kyle Fuller out of Virgina Tech. It also wouldn't shock me if the Bears traded back. Good call here. I'd love to drop back a few spots and pick up an extra 3rd rounder. Fuller is a good name though.

QUOTE (DirtySox @ May 8, 2014 -> 09:07 AM) John Manuel's first mock is up. He still thinks Astros go with Rodon. Miami takes Kolek . Sox go with Aiken. http://www.baseballamerica.com/college/201...top-first-mock/ This bit is very much worth noting though. Kind of what I alluded to before. Underslotting a Nola/Freeland/Fedde/Finnegan? Flexibility to grab a signability guy with pick 44 or later. The more I read, the more it sounds like Sox will be choosing between Aiken/Kolek/or someone off the board. I think Rodon will go to Miami if Houston doesn't take him. Getting Brady Aiken at #3 would be a great thing for the White Sox.

QUOTE (Wanne @ May 7, 2014 -> 11:02 PM) I asked this the other day on facebook about just who the eff the Cubs announcers even were. I don't live in Chicago...nor give two s***s about watching them...but GOOD GOD are they awful!!!! They make Bob Brenly exciting. That's the best "America's Team" can actually come up with.....geez us. f***ing horrible.... Disagree. Kasper is really, really good. I would love Kasper and Stone in the booth for the Sox.