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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 30, 2014 -> 02:59 PM) Nathaniel Stoltz ‏@stoltz_baseball 3m Kannapolis RHP Tyler Danish 89-91 T92 in the first, 85-89 T91 after, plus sink, SL 77-82 flashes plus w/tilt, okay CH 77-82. Danish's actions on the mound are more fluid than last year. Arm action's still unorthodox, but I think the motion works as a whole.q Here is Stoltz's writeup on Danish http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/prospect-wa...den-and-araiza/

QUOTE (LDF @ May 2, 2014 -> 11:23 AM) but the subtraction of players now in the majors will indeed drop the rank. yeah we will improve via the draft. not enuf in the short term. No way. They will be higher. They will add two pretty hight picks. Also, guys like Rondon, Engel, Michalczewski, Danish. I think Sox can be in the #15-#20 range easily.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ May 2, 2014 -> 11:15 AM) I always get reminded of Aaron Crow around this time of year, declining the Nationals offer as a college senior and going to play Independent ball for a year. I suppose that someone (Cubs), (Mets) could cough up the coin but they'd be taking College SR's rest of the way.

QUOTE (LDF @ May 2, 2014 -> 10:51 AM) and that was Boras strategy, if player A falls b/c of contract concerns ...... he still would be asking for the same money even if player A kept on falling. with the new draft and slot money I still wonder if agents will try to find a way around it. Here are the options in my opinion. 1. Rodon goes 1:1 and gets paid. 2. Rodon goes later and takes slightly over slot money. 3. Rodon doesn't go #1, demands #1 money, and goes back to NC State.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 2, 2014 -> 10:30 AM) He came over in the Peavy/Garcia deal. The kid is supposed to be one of the best gloves in all of baseball, with no bat at all. The hope is for him to do some hitting, and if that is the case he might fast track himself to Chicago. This year he is hitting really well albeit at Low A. The thing is though, if he hits at all he will be a big leaguer. His glove is that good.

QUOTE (maggsmaggs @ May 2, 2014 -> 10:46 AM) Honestly, if you look at the expected production of players outside Round 1 relative to the player selected at third overall (and especially if you consider him No. 1 on your Prospect Board), putting all your eggs in one basket might be the best strategy. Completely disagree. If Rodon costs you #1 pick money at #3, you almost literally cannot do it.

The best case scenario for the White Sox if Rodon wants 1-1 money is him going 1-1 to Houston. That guarantees the Sox either Aiken or Kolek.

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ May 2, 2014 -> 10:01 AM) Yeah, that's plausible, but I don't see it happening with us this year. Two of Rodon, Aiken, Kolek, and Jackson will be available. If it was only Hoffman (assuming the injury risk remains), Nola, and Beede, I could see them possibly reaching for an underslot choice. Yeah I agree. The Sox are guaranteed Rodon, Aiken, or Kolek. It would be awesome if Hoffman was this years Sean Manaea and slid all the way to round 2. Never going to happen but if he's actually injured, I wonder if it could benefit the White Sox in the long run.

QUOTE (raBBit @ May 2, 2014 -> 09:36 AM) It's too early to know if that's the case. Besides, after Morales-Drew-Santana-Cruz debacle, there's rumors that the union will move to renegotiate draft pick compensation as it makes no sense what so ever. Do you agree though that if those guys sign Qualifying Offers, the Sox can't do it? They won't be in position to give up that draft pick. Now there's a chance they will be picking in top 10 again and then you could make an argument that it'd be worth giving up the 2nd rounder. Luckily, we are a long way off from this.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 2, 2014 -> 09:22 AM) I would say whoever they draft automatically assumes the #1 prospect in the White Sox system. Yeah most likely. Rondon will be in the top 10 though correct?

QUOTE (scs787 @ May 2, 2014 -> 01:35 AM) This post was lost in the shuffle.... Another interesting angle is that "European coaching legend" Ettore Messina has reportedly thrown his hat in the mix of potential head coaches. What's interesting about that is he used to coach Mirotic, so that could make him(Mirotic) more inclined to come over which could be huge. Past Messina there are also a ton of other solid names out there. Lionel Hollins, who I think would be a great fit(Seeing as the Bulls and Griz play so similarly), is out there. Jeff Van Gundy could return to coaching. Byron Scott who's a lil meh. Then the intriguing first year NBA HC guys like Kerr, Ollie, and Hoiberg. I think it'd be a real interesting year to do this If Thobodeau is gone for whatever reason, I think Fred Hoiberg would be next coach of the Bulls. Forman has Iowa State ties to him and I believe Hoiberg bought Gar Forman's house or Gar Forman bough Hoiberg's Chicago home. One or the other.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ May 1, 2014 -> 04:41 PM) I text with a Vikings fan and he asked me who I think the Bills would be trading up for (because they're reportedly interested in Watkins). All I said was that the only guy worthy of trading up for in this draft, at least at the top, is Clowney, and that's if you believe [you can/he will] translate his talent onto the field because he could be an absolute monstrosity. I think he can and will, others don't. Clowney and M. Williams bookending a three headed trio of Dareus, K. Williams, and Branch makes for a nasty, nasty OLine, plus you can also still rush Hughes off the edge too. Interesting. I could see the Bills moving up for Greg Robinson if he fell to like #5. Robinson is a stud.

QUOTE (raBBit @ May 2, 2014 -> 09:12 AM) I really think the team can and will employ both of these strategies. I don't know if he's considered a big time FA, but Justin Masterson is a guy that would make sense. Sinkerballer, RH, expensive but not grotesquely expensive. I'd want Shields (depending on the price) but Masterson seems to be more aligned with the team's tendencies. The Sox will be in no position to sign either of them if it costs a 1st round draft pick.

QUOTE (Feeky Magee @ May 1, 2014 -> 09:26 PM) My man Cleuluis went 3-5 Also: Josh Feldman ‏@BigTexJosh 1h WOW! SS @CleuluisRondon just made a diving defensive stab on the other side of 2B then flung it to first for the out. He is fun to watch. Josh Feldman ‏@BigTexJosh 1h AGAIN! Cleuluis Rondon with a sliding backhand stab then throws from a knee to 3B to get the lead runner for the 2nd out of the inning. Rondon will be in the White Sox top 10 prospects if he keeps this up won't he?

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 30, 2014 -> 06:16 PM) The slot value for the #3 pick is just over $5.7 million. And that's the problem. The Sox could go a little bit over but not a ton. They have like $9.5 million to spend on their first 10 picks. Pittsburgh drafted Mark Appel at #8 overall two years ago. Pittsburgh signed the rest of their 9 top 10 draft selections and really only had like $3.2 million slot value available. Appel had to either take that or go back to school. It's just so hard now to go overboard in the first round.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 30, 2014 -> 01:19 PM) Scott Merkin ‏@scottmerkin 8m Our Draft experts take their First-round guesses: @jimcallisMLB says Tyler Kolek, @JonathanMayoB3 says Jeff Hoffman. http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20...rticle_73746266 Yeah I was just going to post the same piece. This is also the Top 100 Draft Prospects from MLB.com http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/prospects/watch/y2014/#list=draft

QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Apr 29, 2014 -> 08:02 PM) I heard there is going to be a new show called Gotham that is centered around a young Commish Gordon and how some of the villains came to become who they were. I'm not really a comic books guy, and I don't really follow Batman/Spiderman outside of the Hollywood movies, but the show sounds pretty interesting. And of course another reason I want to see it is because Donal Logue is a main character, and I love me some Donal Logue. Yeah Commissioner Gordon will be played by Ben MacKenzie who is from THe OC and Southland.

QUOTE (scs787 @ Apr 30, 2014 -> 01:09 PM) So we're doing a community mock draft over on talkbears and I was put in charge of the Bears. I went with Donald in the first and faced a real interesting choice in the 2nd. I had planned to go FS but HHCD, Pryor, Buccanon, Ward, and Joyner were all gone. Terrence Brooks, who I kinda like, was the top ranked FS there...butttt I had RaShede Hageman staring at me as the clear BPA. I really think Ratliff should be a rotational player at this point in his career, and Hageman offers the versatility Emery likes(Can play anywhere on the DL). Given the situation who would you take? Hageman? Brooks? Marcus Roberson? Phillip Gaines? "Shock the world" with Allen Robinson or Austin Serafain-Jenkins? I went all Tommie Harris/Tank Johnson on the draft and went with Hageman with guys like Ed Reynolds, Dion Bailey, Tre Boston, Antone Exum, and Brook Vereen in mind to play centerfield. Depends on what CB's are on the board. You could go with a guy like Pierre Desir right there. If offense, I would go Jace Amaro if available. Hageman would be a steal at 51 though.

QUOTE (raBBit @ Apr 30, 2014 -> 10:22 AM) I agree with both of you. I believe, someone correct me if I'm wrong, that Boras won't disclose his client's contract demands until he is selected. So if he doesn't go to Houston it'll be interesting to see how how it plays out. Does Boras end up playing ball? If you know anything about Rodon's personality you would think he wants to go pro. I would hope 1-3 money and a promise to get him to the bigs on the fast track would lure Rodon into our grasp. Can anyone comment on Miami and Rodon? I'm sure they have been out there scouting him but if Houston does take one of the HS arms, what does Miami do? It really seems like the media is playing it as it's either Houston or the Cubbies for Rodon. I would suppose that it's possible because Miami has the most money to spend. I have only really seen them linked to HS arms and Kolek in particular. Interesting scenarios for the Sox all around. I don't think anyone should be really upset about taking Kolek, Rodon, Hoffman, or Aiken honestly. If they decided to go with Alex Jackson I wouldn't even hate that. Something like Beede or Turner would drive me insane but I just can't see that happening. If Houston takes Rodon, Sox will be choosing between 1 of the HS arms and Hoffman. If the Astros take one of the HS arms, the Sox will most likely be choosing between Hoffman or Rodon. Should be interesting either way.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Apr 30, 2014 -> 10:04 AM) I honestly don't think Teddy is going to get drafted in the 1st. I really liked Teddy coming out, but the more I see and read about him, the more I am reminded of Jimmy Clausen. I think he falls to the 2nd and it's certainly possible he's not even among the top 5 QBs taken. Of course, he could still just as easily be the 2nd or 3rd QB taken too. I think the Vikings want Bortles or Mettenberger I've said it before and I'll say it again: If you draft Teddy Bridgewater and put him in a West Coast Offense, you will have yourself a top 10 NFL QB. Teams are scared because he doesn't "look the part" and his hands are small. They are worried about durability. Accuracy is the #1 trait in a QB in my opinion, and he's the most accurate. The fact that some teams are supposedly salivating over a bum like Tom Savage but questioning Teddy is crazy to me.

QUOTE (bmags @ Apr 30, 2014 -> 09:41 AM) Even after the way he was used this year? I would agree with you that he should take the money and go pro. What I am arguing is that if he wants 1-1 money from a different team he will end up going back to school because it won't happen.

QUOTE (bmags @ Apr 30, 2014 -> 09:10 AM) Well, I for one am excited for the offseason. And already regretting the disappointment I'll have in late july when our offseason sucked. Mirotic billed as the big addition to go along with 2 1st round picks. YAY!

QUOTE (Brian @ Apr 30, 2014 -> 07:50 AM) Better not be Boykin. Nah I think it's Michigan for Boykin.

QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Apr 30, 2014 -> 08:14 AM) I'm starting to think that Teddy Bridgewater might fall to the Vikings. Was hoping that wouldn't happen. I love Bridgewater. He's not really a fit for what Norv wants to do on offense though. I wouldn't be surprised if they go defense in round 1 and then try to maneuver their way to selecting Mettenberger. He fits perfectly. Carr fits as well.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 29, 2014 -> 04:12 PM) But they still haven't come up with a way to get around going over your draft allotment. The first pick slot is $7,922,100. The White Sox total for all draft picks has to be under $9,509,700. So if the Sox were to draft Rodon, and give him #1 pick money, they would have about $1.6 million to spend on the entire rest of their draft picks, otherwise they would face the following sanctions. $1.6 million would get the Sox something like their second round pick and their 5th round pick, and no other signings over $100,000. In theory, they could go up to $9,985,184.99 and just pay a tax. That amounts to about an extra $450,000, or about the price of a 4th round draft pick. After that, they are giving up draft picks, and that won't happen. This is well explained. It's almost impossible to give Rodon 1-1 money if you aren't picking 1st overall. If that is what he wants and Houston doesn't bite, I think he ends up going to back to NC State.