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QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jan 30, 2014 -> 09:54 AM) Wow, he's high on Micah and Mitchell. I think he's probably not fully aware of some of the risks with Micah Johnson. Mitchell is an interesting prospect but I can't see him as top 10. He likes him as a starter though. If he's a reliever he probably isn't top 10. Law has said since draft day that he has the pitch mix to start.
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Keith Law also today released his top 10's for the AL. I will list them below and put a brief synopsis. I can email the insider stuff to people if you send me a PM. 1. Erik Johnson 2. Matt Davidson 3. Tim Anderson 4. Courtney Hawkins 5. Micah Johnson 6. Marcus Semien 7. Trayce Thompson 8. Chris Beck 9. Andrew Mitchell 10. Jacob May 11. Scott Snodgress Law said that even though the system is still ranked 27th, it is in the best shape it's been in since he started compiling his rankings. .... Law is still high on Courtney Hawkins. Says he was pushed to aggressively last season but still has the 3 tools (power, arm, speed) that made him a top 100 guy last season. .....Micah Johnson opened eyes in the Arizona Fall League but Law states that he may end up in CF. .....Law loves Andrew Mitchell. I believe he had him as his #35 draft prospect and the Sox took him in round 4. He says that TCU misused him as a reliever and that he has the 3 pitch mix to start. .....Law is not a fan of Tyler Danish. He wasn't on draft day either though and mentions how he hates the delivery. He also said that he still hates Sale's arm action but says that the Sox have obviously made that work. .....Semien could supplant Beckham at 2B if given the opportunity and could be an ideal utility infielder. Keith also lists Jared Mitchell under The Fallen category and Jacob May under his Sleepers.
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A complete roundup of idiotic David Price trade proposals
Y2Jimmy0 replied to Buehrle>Wood's topic in Pale Hose Talk
QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jan 29, 2014 -> 07:04 PM) But that was mostly based on the overrating or overvaluing of Alexei Ramirez and/or Rios, right? Yes and many of us believed that the White Sox would pay a big chunk of $$ to receive better prospects in return. -
QUOTE (raBBit @ Jan 29, 2014 -> 04:16 PM) True, and I wasn't even really using hindsight as Anderson had a fine season. It's not like I said I wish the Sox drafted Trout over Mitchell. Sure Wacha looks to have a better career than Hawkins but at the time I wanted Courtney Hawkins and I was happy when the team drafted him. Absolutely agree with this. I wanted Hawkins at the time and that's who the Sox took. I loved it. Wacha represented the safe, college back-end type that was taken in the past and many would have been upset with that pick.
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QUOTE (whitesoxfan99 @ Jan 29, 2014 -> 10:22 AM) Michael Bay would actually be an upgrade at director in this case as Jonathan Liebesman has basically only directed horrendous movies. There is no way that movie isn't really bad. It's gonna be awful. Michael Bay is terrible. Shredder is a white guy for crying out loud.
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QUOTE (flavum @ Jan 29, 2014 -> 10:58 AM) http://www.csnchicago.com/white-sox/white-...ourtney-hawkins I think I read that Hawkins and Tim Anderson will both be at High A Winston Salem.
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Has anyone seen Dallas Buyers Club? It was phenomenal. McConaughey was great and it's no wonder that Jared Leto is going to win Best Supporting Actor. Just really good stuff.
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QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Jan 26, 2014 -> 11:29 PM) I'd love to see what Coop can do with Tommy Hanson. Agree. Hanson has been really bad. Worth a flyer though.
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QUOTE (greg775 @ Jan 26, 2014 -> 10:22 PM) I don't understand why Hahn is stopping right now. I'm thinking in the offseason, Keppinger and Gillaspie sound like very good players and Flowers/Phegs doesn't sound so bad and our pitching staff seems just fine. But that's wishful thinking, fool's gold. To all of you "rebuilding people" please please answer this. My assertion is if we added a real catcher, another starter and preferably a real second baseman we "could" win the division. It's doable to add all three. So tell me ... do you agree with my assertion we are THAT CLOSE to contending now? If the answer as I expect, is yes, then why not go for it? I'd hate to be out of the race in May when we are this close NOW. I honestly don't think that the Sox are that close. They are depending on so many things. I am very excited for the season because I want to see the young players but I don't correlate that excitement with thinking they will be in the division race. I think the absolute best case scenario is something like 79-83. But to me, the record doesn't really matter. I want to see which young players look like long-term answers. I want to see the Sox continue to add to the system with draft, international signings, and the trading of veterans. That's a successful season to me next year. I know a lot of people differ and that's fine. I just wouldn't advocate getting your hopes up.
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Lets make this clear: THE WHITE SOX ARE NOT SIGNING ERVIN SANTANA. IT IS A STUPID IDEA. RICK HAHN IS NOT DOING ANYTHING THAT WILL COST THE TEAM A DRAFT PICK BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE STUPID AND RICK HAHN IS NOT STUPID. WHY ARE PEOPLE STILL GOING BACK AND FORTH ON THIS? WE ARE FEEDING A TROLL THAT IS LOOKING TO GET FED. THIS HAS TO STOP. MARTY I ONLY HAVE 1 QUESTION: WERE YOU AT SOXFEST ASKING HAHN WHY AJ PIERZYNSKI ISNT ON THE TEAM ANYMORE? YOUR THOUGHTS ON THIS TOPIC ALIGN PERFECTLY WITH THEIRS.
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QUOTE (StRoostifer @ Jan 26, 2014 -> 01:55 PM) I think the comment to Robin was just plain dumb and an assinine thing to say and I'm not a fan of him as a manager. I don't blame the fans for their frustration with Dunn, im frustrated too after three seasons of his performance. Truthfully I don't think what was said about Dunn was terrible at all, that fan could have said much much worse. The fan just expressed his frustration that Dunn was still in a Sox uni, no big deal to me. I wouldn't have done it but I wouldn't have attended that seminar because I'm frustrated with Dunn's performance. After 99 losses, high ticket prices, high concessions etc and given this is a free country the fans are well within their right to voice their frustraton. Tickets can be had very cheap. They could lower prices and Sox fans still wouldn't go.
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QUOTE (Marty34 @ Jan 26, 2014 -> 12:20 PM) Absolutely, the Sox are to blame here. The only reason I can think of for inviting Dunn is that Courtney Hawkins was next on the Soxfest depth chart. What's funny is that Dunn isn't even the worst player on the Sox but people hate him. People just hate strikeouts. Anyone that would have booed 19 year old Courtney Hawkins should have been blown up immediately though.
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QUOTE (Jake @ Jan 26, 2014 -> 11:11 AM) To me, the main thing Wong has (other than LH bat, which is important) is not so much talent as it is track record. Semien's never been bad, but he's only spent a few months on the legitimate prospect radar. Too much uncertainty. And he's not on STL, NY, or Boston.
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QUOTE (TheFutureIsNear @ Jan 26, 2014 -> 12:22 PM) http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2014/01/al-c...ins-tigers.html Apparently Ervin Santana's price may have dropped all the way to 3/40M. Everybody still horribly against a 3 year deal? It doesn't matter what we think. Rick Hahn has made it clear that the Sox won't be doing anything that costs them a draft pick. Guys like Santana get screwed by the new system.
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QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Jan 22, 2014 -> 05:16 PM) Speaking of Jonah Hill and the Wolf of Wall Street, not only did Jonah demand that he have to audition for a part in the movie, but he accepted "the lowest possible pay" he could for the movie. He made something like $60K for this movie! http://www.avclub.com/article/jonah-hill-w...oney-pos-107191 Hill said if he is making great movies, he is fine just being able to pay rent and have a family. I read some things that referenced the fact that Scorsese is Hill's all time favorite Director. He said that Goodfellas is his all time favorite film and he'd basically do anything for Marty.
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QUOTE (raBBit @ Jan 25, 2014 -> 07:24 PM) LOL. Yeah, have to agree there. I have seen two writers say they prefer Semien to Wong. I believe they were Keith Law and Kiley McDaniel but don't quote me on that. There's probably a White Sox-Cardinals bias there too. Cardinals turn marginal prospects (Craig and Carpenter) into great players and the White Sox turn marginal hitting prospects into absolutely nothing. Here was Jonathan Mayo's response to me: Jonathan Mayo @JonathanMayoB3 10h @JamesFox917 @jimcallis His tools don't measure up. I like him, but Wongs tools much better
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QUOTE (raBBit @ Jan 25, 2014 -> 05:57 PM) That's bulls***. You only hurt your own credibility when you make comments like that. I've been going to SoxFest every year minus 2-3 since 1999. Every year I meet great people. Just because a couple of meatheads boo Dunn and Ventura that doesn't make the attendees idiots. Not everyone spends their free time at night/at work/at school/at home/ in waiting rooms reading about the Sox like some of us. That doesn't give you the right to act like you're some elite fan. I tried to conjure up a reply but I just don't have the energy. I'll just sit here and continue to be elite with no credibility.
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QUOTE (Paulstar @ Jan 25, 2014 -> 03:50 PM) This is hilarious, lets all act shocked when common fans are angry at a player who's been vastly overpaid for the past three years and call him out at the one time of the year the fans get to interact in some ways with the players. It would be shocking if they didn't ridicule him in the situation. It's not my cup of tea to do that, but I don't feel bad in the least. Especially not since at the end of the day, he's still making millions to play a game. I actually agree with Marty in a sense that I'm surprised Dunn hasn't been dumped yet just to appease the casual fan. I do however think Dunn and Konerko can make a solid platoon. But I still don't see how it's going to be flexible to have Konerko, Dunn, De Aza, Viciedo, and Keppinger all on this roster how it currently is. Exactly. And if you are at a fan convention, you are most likely an idiot. Just the way it goes. Players go to those things to hook up with broads.
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Doug Padilla @ESPNChiSox 8m Hahn admits No. 3 draft pick in June probably will be spent on pitching. Four of top five guys available, as of now, are pitchers.
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How is Kolten Wong at #58 overall and Marcus Semien isn't even in the top 100? Semien may actually be a better player than Wong is. Doesn't make any sense.
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QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Jan 25, 2014 -> 07:43 AM) I'm sure he is looking at those options, but teams aren't just sitting there willing to trade top catching prospects cheaply. Hahn shouldn't be giving up the farm for a catcher. A catcher probably isn't putting the 2014 Sox over the top anyway, so sit tight and wait for a good deal. Exactly. I am sure he has talked about numerous possibilities for a catcher long-term. It will be expensive though as far as the talent cost in trade. If you could get a young catcher with 6 years of control for De Aza and Rienzo I think it'd be done already. I bet most teams have asked for Quintana or Erik Johnson though.
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QUOTE (Marty34 @ Jan 25, 2014 -> 08:44 AM) Draft picks aren't the only way, or I'd argue the best way to build, at least not for the Sox. It's going to take a long time to build that farm system up Sox fans aren't going to sit through that. Look what has happened with the Astros getting beat in the ratings by a WNBA game. The Sox aren't going to the Astros extent in rebuilding, but they do have the Cubs to compete with. The Cubs farm system is stacked which is one reason why I believe the Sox chose ML-ready prospects in trades. The Sox can't afford to fall behind them in terms of Major League talent which could very well happen once the Cubs prospects start making it to the majors. For that reason, the focus for the Sox has to be on the big league level right now. You have to break a few eggs to make an omelet. That 2nd round fee it would cost for Jimenez, along with the big spenders not being interested, will keep his price down and you can recoup the value of the pick by dealing from rotation depth next offseason. With the system that the Astros have, those fans are about to jump back on board. Houston is going to be relevant again soon. Their system is stacked and they will also have money to spend.
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QUOTE (hi8is @ Jan 25, 2014 -> 12:36 AM) Homer Bailey has to be a target next season if the reds don't extend him. On the starting catcher front I'm not seeing much next year as well... We're likely to get our catcher via trade IMO. Wouldn't be surprised if it's Yasmani Grandal after Hedges reaches the ML. Sox supposedly loved him when he came out.
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Jesse Sanchez @JesseSanchezMLB 5h Source: Cuban RHP Odrisamer Despaigne cleared by OFAC & can sign. Held 2 showcases in MX this month & might have one more before he signs. Jesse Sanchez @JesseSanchezMLB 5h I'm told several of the clubs that were interested in signing Tanaka also expressed interest in Odrisamer Despaigne. Plan B? Despaigne has a 80 name on the 20/80 scale but from reports I've read he doesn't sound like a huge impact guy. He's known for being a workhouse in Cuba and has solid numbers. He is 26 years old and is represented by old friend Jaime Torres. Ben Badler said that he is "fringy and might be a bullpen guy". I wonder if the White Sox will have any interest. It shouldn't be crazy money.
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Top White Sox Prospects - 2014 Pre-Season
Y2Jimmy0 replied to NorthSideSox72's topic in FutureSox Board
QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jan 24, 2014 -> 04:24 PM) Honestly, if some team grew infatuated with him, Johnson is a guy I'd move right away. I just don't think he has a particularly high ceiling. I think his upside is a guy like Chone Figgins, and more likely, a utility player and pinch runner. I agree with this. He seems like a guy that they are really pumping up as well. Sometimes they don't do that with the guys that they love. Micah is at Soxfest as a AA 2B.