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QUOTE (DirtySox @ Nov 3, 2013 -> 01:39 PM) BA Jeff Hoffman Article from ECU scout day. http://www.baseballamerica.com/college/eas...y-jeff-hoffman/ Certainly not out of the question he's available at 3. Are the Marlins still against drafting HS players in Rd.1? I kind of assumed that they were thinking that Rodon and Hoffman would go 1-2 leaving us with the choice of HS Hitters or everyone else. It's obviously way premature, but something I wondered about.

QUOTE (DirtySox @ Nov 4, 2013 -> 01:41 PM) Granderson received a qualifying offer. Also: Scott Merkin ‏@scottmerkin 15m Keep in mind that although White Sox top pick at No. 3 is protected, they almost certainly aren't giving up Draft picks. That item, along .. Reply Retweet Favorite More Expand Scott Merkin ‏@scottmerkin 15m ... with international spending, are two of the major items in the '14 budget per Rick Hahn. Reply Retweet Favorite More Expand Yep. The QO takes the Sox out of the Granderson market. It actually hurts the player. Most teams won't be giving up a draft selection for Grandy.

QUOTE (TheFutureIsNear @ Nov 2, 2013 -> 12:20 PM) And I love when hometown fans overvalue every player on their favorite team. Its only been a few days since I joined this site, but already I've learned..... - Viciedo and Beckham are good players who are just slumping. They'll be better next year. - Alexei Ramirez is a very good player who should only be traded for a top prospect. He's too valuable for anything less. - Hector Santiago is legit frontline starter and possibly even a #2. - Chris Beck is a top prospect with a bright future. Then you are ignoring the right posts. There is a lot of crap spewed on this site just like any similar team site on the internet. But everyone here wants the same thing. I am pretty sure we all want to see sustained success from our favorite baseball team. Most people are down on Beckham and Viciedo. I wouldn't trade Viciedo for a bag of balls but I don't think he's been used properly either. Beckham OTOH, I think gets dealt this offseason. Alexei Ramirez is a really good defensive SS who is overpaid for what he brings offensively. Would not be shocked to see him gone as well. Santiago is not a frontline starter. He has fantastic stuff and needs to not walk as many people. But he should not be traded unless the Sox get value in return. Even if he is a #4 starter, young, cost-controlled LHP is very valuable. And finally, Chris Beck isn't a top 100 guy but at one time he was a potential 1st round draft choice. He had a good season last year and I expect him to build on that.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Nov 2, 2013 -> 02:11 PM) Therein lies the problem. None of those toolsy outfielders (Mitchell, Thompson, Jacobs, Walker, Hawkins) are anywhere close to having the impact of an Ellsbury. I know that. I agree that the player I am referring to is not in the organization yet. It's easier said than done. I still would not want to pay for past performance though. If Ellsbury loses his speed or goes on the DL the whole plan is shot. It's like investing in Jose Reyes. Investing that much money in a player whose game depends so much on speed is a problem for me.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Nov 2, 2013 -> 02:07 PM) Are you sure on that money, Caufield? Grandy is going to get a huge deal? How many teams out there are still spending that kind of money for good but not greatness? AJ making more than $4 mill? Good luck to the teams that want to pay that, I guess. All I know is we need better players than Viciedo and DeAza; Kepp and Gillaspie and Gordo. Otherwise last place beckons and we waste decent pitching. Yes he is right on with that money. Greg, Hunter Pence just got $90 million. Hunter Effing Pence. That is why you don't rebuild a core through free agency. This may take awhile. People not understanding that is mind boggling to me.

This thread is funny. 1. The Sox will not be signing Ellsbury or someone else that costs the team a 2nd round draft pick. 2. A.J. Pierzynski is not coming back. 3. I work with Curtis Granderson's college roommate and he says that White Sox would be interested in a short term deal (2 years). Yankees will most likely give him a QO taking him off the table for the Sox as well. Moves like that just don't make business sense for the White Sox right now. The Sox need to draft and develop the next Jacoby Ellsbury rather than paying the actual Jacoby Ellsbury money for past performance. It's flawed logic. Let someone else do that.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Oct 30, 2013 -> 02:27 PM) I agree with you but i don't know if I could see Hahn doing that without getting some sort of pitching back I wouldnt even need Lawrie is both Sanchez and Stroman were really in play.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Oct 24, 2013 -> 09:20 AM) Jamie Alexander would be a good Wonder Woman too, but she is currently playing Sif in the Thor movies. Dont know if Marvel would let her walk, not sure if she has a long picture deal with Marvel. Adrienne Palicki would be good I think. She was Tyra in Friday Night Lights and was supposed to play Wonder Woman in the TV show that got cancelled before airing.

QUOTE (staxx @ Oct 20, 2013 -> 01:35 PM) At this point id be shocked if we don't end up with either Hoffman/Gatewood/Turner I would be really excited about Alex Jackson as well.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 25, 2013 -> 02:49 PM) To trade Sale the Sox would need a young major league star. NO combo of prospects is going to even come close. I think Bryant will soon be a young major league star. Not that I'd make the deal but he's going to be a stud.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Oct 25, 2013 -> 10:39 AM) If you really think a month or a year with a new hitting coach is going to make Ramirez, Viciedo, or Garcia more selective, I have some Sears stock to sell you. They have played under multiple hitting coaches their entire lives but still have the same approach. I don't think there is much hope for Alexei to improve on that. As you do get a little older, sometimes you do get a little wiser, so maybe Viciedo and Garcia can become more selective, but odds are against it being anything drastic. I have no problems with this guy. I would just say if you really think the hitting coach is going to increase everyone's OBP 30 or 40 points, you probably need rehab. I generally agree that the preaching of patience at the major league with veterans will most likely not change them. However, this hire was made to have an impact on the minor league system to have a common philosophy taught and preached throughout the organization. That's why this is a big move in my opinion.

I will be pretty upset if PK is on the roster. It's over. Move on. So many people want to just discard Dunn too. Who would be the LH bats on the team? That's crazy unless you can replace the production. He hits a ton of homers and that's pretty important to succeed in the ballpark that the Sox play in.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Oct 17, 2013 -> 03:00 PM) Olney just tweeted Astros are skeptical about their chances of signing Abreu. Made a strong offer but all but certain they fell short. White Sox? I like the sound of that Yeah here is the tweet. Buster Olney ‏@Buster_ESPN 1m Source say Astros are skeptical about their chances of signing Jose Abreu. Made a strong offer but all but certain they fell short. W. Sox?

These are the times that I wish KW was in charge of a different organization. He loves the Arizona Fall League and would trade the Sox something pretty good after salivating over Mitchell's play out there.

QUOTE (knightni @ Oct 7, 2013 -> 01:36 PM) $40? That's how much Frank Thomas used to cost. My how time flies. Dean's Dugout in Naperville has these frequently too. Phegley and Garcia will both be there soon.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Oct 5, 2013 -> 08:39 PM) Like with Viciedo and Puig? They were in to the very last second on both of those guys. Cespedes, to a lesser extent. The only one they weren't pursuing hard was Soler. That's not true. Gammons tweeted last year that Sox bid of upwards of $25 million was right there with Atlanta competing for the 2nd highest bid on Soler.

QUOTE (whitesox901 @ Oct 5, 2013 -> 02:49 PM) Damn. Nobody has Cespedes going to Oakland. You just never know.

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Oct 4, 2013 -> 02:39 PM) And now the Marlins: http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2013/10/marl...riel-abreu.html I didn't see this Scot Gregor article about the Sox interest in Abreu posted yet. Here it is. http://www.dailyherald.com/article/2013100...?interstitial=1

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Oct 1, 2013 -> 07:41 AM) WTF is this post? That's all we've BEEN talking about in here. Why wouldn't you talk about it? It was just in reference to past threads. A couple of posters wanted the team to lose more so that this pick could easily be obtained. Others believed that the thought process was crazy. People started arguing and 2 threads were closed relating to the topic. That's all I am saying. Just didn't want to get another thread shutdown.

QUOTE (Jake @ Sep 28, 2013 -> 09:23 AM) What a joke. What should Sweum be fired for? For not losing enough? It's not a joke. Girardi is the better manager and the better choice at this time. Not too surprising actually.

Can we talk about the Sox having the 3rd pick now? Still too soon? I wanted to check with everyone before bringing it up again because of the thin skin around here.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Sep 28, 2013 -> 12:27 PM) I believe Bucket mentioned earlier in the thread that the Sox front office were looking heavy into Pence this off season. Well Heyman just tweeted that Pence and the Giants are close to a deal near 90 million. 5 year deal for 90 million. Thoughts? Would you give Choo 5/90? God no. He'd be a $90 million platoon player now.

Wow that is crazy money for Hunter Pence. I bet someone gives Choo $100 million now and he's basically a platoon player. I think Sox look into Abreu and not much else. Hahn made it pretty clear yesterday that going nuts in free agency should not and will not be the plan.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 24, 2013 -> 10:10 PM) Great post. Well, if there are any Scioscia lovers out there, he's going to be available. I'm more a Francona guy than Scioscia, but do we want to wait and pass on a guy like Scioscia? I really don't want some unproven bench coach as Sox next manager. I'd prefer more of an experienced manager next time. I think LaRussa's stupid for not wanting to manage the Sox, as long as his health is good. What's he doing in retirement that's more fun than spending every day at the ballpark? I'd be fine with Scioscia actually. It's a bit off topic but I think the Cubs are about to make some news by firing Sveum and getting Girardi to manage the Cubs.