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QUOTE (Marty34 @ May 7, 2012 -> 02:33 PM) Does Kenny make it through the year? I don't know how KW can possibly make it through the year. I don't think it matters though. As bad as KW's minor league system is, most of that is on Reinsdorf for not spending in the draft and on the international market. I know that the new rules might help some of that but the way the White Sox do business has been a joke for a long time.

QUOTE (daggins @ May 7, 2012 -> 02:28 PM) Probably late July. Though we did see the Padres already selling high on a reliever, and Jeff Luhnow is already openly talking about his trade chips. The Sox aren't as bad as those two teams but they could be in a year or so barring a major influx of new talent. Yeah, I know that it usually happens in late July. I feel like they could start earlier and possibly get more for some of their parts though. It is pointless to have Konerko and AJ and guys that still have value on this team.

How soon before the White Sox start selling off parts? They cannot compete with this team. And even if they could hang around, they are not winning a title. In my opinion, in order to get good again they need to get really bad first. AJ, Thornton, Crain, Floyd, Ohman and Peavy are probabaly the most tradeable assets that the team has. I would be willing to trade anyone on the team. The Sox are 29th in attendance and that simple fact should prove that they can deal Konerko as well. If Sale is not going to be used as a starting pitcher, then he should be dealt as well. I know it takes two to tango and that it is early. I just hope this is the game plan for the coming months. This team is not fun to watch and is not going anywhere.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 16, 2012 -> 08:42 AM) I can't imagine it will matter with this group, but worth noting. http://www.csnchicago.com/blog/whitesox-ta...mp;feedID=10338 I thought Ventura made it somewhat clear that he was leaning towards De Aza in CF and Rios in LF. This should be the outcome. JJ Stankevicz makes it sound like De Aza would be the LF being replaces by Lillibridge. This is not Ozzie managing the team anymore and I thought that an actual beat writer would know that De Aza is most likely the opening day CF.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 10, 2012 -> 08:53 AM) http://www.csnchicago.com/blog/whitesox-ta...mp;feedID=10338 Keith Law also has Erik Johnson in his top ten, I believe at #6.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jan 26, 2012 -> 02:15 PM) That Clown directed the White Sox to the only championship in your lifetime. He is no Bozo. He is the arguably greatest manager in White Sox history cause he led the team to a title. Greg, even if that is true it does not give him a lifetime pass to be the White Sox manager. Ozzie made his own bed and basically forced his way out of town just like the majority of the board has said already.

QUOTE (dpd9189 @ Jan 9, 2012 -> 05:48 PM) That blowhard Kaplan just said Cubs and Tigers getting close to a deal on Garza. If the Cubs can get Jacob Turner and Nick Castellanos it would be a done deal for me. I'd probably do it for Turner and filler. Jacob Turner is exactly the type of stud young pitcher the Cubs should want in return.

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Jan 9, 2012 -> 04:04 PM) Eh I wouldn't go that far, Beasley was actually the consensus 1 before Derrick's NCAA run. No....Beasley was the consensus number one for stupid people. Nobody that knows anything about basketball would have selected Beasley with all those issues over Rose. I agree that people wanted to do it....but those people are idiots

Yoenis Cespedes Rumors: Friday By Mark Polishuk [January 6, 2012 at 5:58pm CST] Here's the latest on Cuban outfielder Yoenis Cespedes... A source says Cespedes' eventual contract will be in the range of four years and $32MM, writes MLB.com's Joe Frisaro. "Several teams have backed away" from Cespedes' original goal of an eight-year, $60MM contract. Frisaro says the Marlins are among the teams still very interested in the Cuban prospect. Also from Frisaro, Cespedes is tentatively expected to establish residency in the Dominican Republic on January 15, and then the outfielder will petition Major League Baseball for free agent status. The Tigers have been relatively quiet this offseason, "intensifying speculation" that the team is waiting on Cespedes to become available, reports James Schmehl of MLive.com. With Delmon Young, Austin Jackson and Brennan Boesch pencilled in as Detroit's starting outfield, the Tigers could have to make another move should they sign Cespedes, or just give him limited playing time to ease his transition to the Major Leagues. This is from mlbtraderumors...... If the price is really down to 4 years at around $32 million, do the White Sox make a play for him? I believe so.

QUOTE (SOXOBAMA @ Dec 17, 2011 -> 11:53 AM) I could see the Sox trading Danks/Thornton to the Yankees for Sanchez, Noesi, Betances and Mason Williams... Not a chance. That is way more than the Yankees would give up for one year of Danks. If that deal was ever offered, I would drive them to NY myself. If the Yanks offered Betances/Noesi and Sanchez they should take that immediately. If the Yankees were willing to include Betances it would be something like Betances, Romine, and a couple mid tier prospects. NY could get Gio for the package that you proposed.

QUOTE (Chet Kincaid @ Dec 12, 2011 -> 08:47 AM) Will everyone be happy if Kenny did land this Betances guy for John Danks? How good is Betances? Betances would be a nice piece from the Yankees. Hopefully, the deal would include Austin Romine as well and possibly another lower level prospect. 6 years of Betances and Romine would be a nice get for Danks with one year left. I was dreaming of a package including Betances, Noesi, and Romine for Danks and Thornton but I would settle for one based around Betances

Seems like Gio being available is really holding things up on the Danks front. It was said that KW was asking the Yankees for Banuelos and Montero. I would accept a package without those guys in it. The Yankees have some intriguing names. If Gio gets dealt somewhere else would the Yankees part with a package headlined by Betances? What would be a realistic package in return for Danks? I would love Betances, Gary Sanchez and Hector Noesi but even that may be unrealistic. They also have OF's Mason Williams, Slade Heathcoate, and Dante Bichette JR.

QUOTE (Marty34 @ Dec 3, 2011 -> 09:31 PM) Dunn was part of a failed strategy by Williams. Yeah, the strategy failed but 95% of the board was excited when they signed Dunn. You can't have it both ways. I was excited as hell for Dunn. I was excited for Peavy too because Kenny didn't trade anything of value for him. He took a shot and it backfired. The same shot that I would have taken given the circumstances so I am not going to sit back and b**** about Dunn. He was awful. But it was still a great move at the time. Don't you have a Marlins board to chat on?

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 16, 2011 -> 08:23 AM) KenDavidoff Ken Davidoff The #Yankees like the #WhiteSox's John Danks, but aren't sure there's a fit for a trade. #Yankees will keep Banuelos, Betances. Well yeah, if the Yankees will not give up Betances or Banuelos than there is not fit probably. I would take Nova + others for Danks but they probably would not give up Nova either. What are the board's thoughts on potential Yankee hauls for Danks?

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 11, 2011 -> 04:00 PM) http://mlbbuzz.yardbarker.com/blog/mlbbuzz...h_danks/8029465 What is a realistic haul from the Rangers? The Sox would not be able to get Perez, Holland, or Ogando obviously but Texas has one of the best farm systems in baseball. Assuming the Sox would want pitching in return some options could be: Scheppers, Miguel De Los Santos, Kirkman, or even David Perez. Jurickson Profar, SS, would be a dream probably and they do have a load of OF prospects and 3B. What are everyone's thoughts on a potential deal with Texas?

Marty34, I mean Joe Cowley will hopefully be following the Guillen family to Florida the same way that Brian Windhorst followed Lebron to Miami. Just go away. I do not want to hear another thing from Joe, Ozzie, or any of Ozzie's spoiled, idiotic, petulent children. I always heard that Ibis Guillen was a strong, nice lady. My god she must be.

Not to broadcast myself completely but It's not all financial for me. I live in the southwest suburbs, am a teacher, and have no children. The past 7-8 years I would go to 8-10 games a summer. I would usually cherry pick games off of stubhub but I would still be there. I went to two games during the early part of this year. I do not anticipate going back. The team is just not fun. I love going to the ballpark. I went to Colorado this year and Pittsburgh last year. Yes the Sox were playing, but I wanted to see those parks as well. I am not paying money to see this team. If the team was actually contending I would be out there. That's what it is for me. The current team is unlikeable as well. Adam Dunn was always one of my favorite players and in the offseason I anticipated spending a lot of time at the Cell. That obviosuly has not gone according to plan. I am not spending money to see Pierre, Rios, etc. I may consider heading out in September if I know for sure that Viciedo is in the lineup and there is a chance that Addison Reed could pitch. Also, the Ozzie/Kenny dynamics are just wearing me out. I love the White Sox. But I don't love these White Sox. Sorry for the rambling but I guess that's what the board is for.

Isn't Santiago probably done for the series after his workload tonight? Has anyone given any thought to sending Santiago down, going with a short pen for 3 games and inserting Dayan's bat into the lineup for the rest of the 3 game series? Then the Sox would have 4 days to figure out what to do next. Thoughts?

http://mlb.mlblogs.com/2011/07/06/white-so...antas-pitchers/ Mark Bowman of mlb.com seems to think the Sox are definitely scouting Atlanta's pitching but he hints that the Braves would be more interested in Pierre than Quentin. What? God I hope it's Rios that they are interested in.

Haha that show was awful yesterday. I texted Rongey a few things. Got no response of course. Then I told him that "J Hood was on the other station and I could not listen to him argue with himself anymore". He replied back: "TheScore:Later". Pretty good stuff. I get a kick out of it. He's a Cardinals fan anyway. He doesn't care.

QUOTE (Stan Bahnsen @ Jun 19, 2011 -> 09:00 PM) I know it's a weekday series, unfortunately, but I was wondering if any of you boyz might be heading out to beautiful Colorado next week? For those who haven't been, Coors Field is a terrific park with plenty of activity in the surrounding LoDo neighborhood. There's also no shortage of cool outdoor activities in the area, for families and everybody else. I live in Golden, which is one of the real garden-spots of the area, and a neat little town with the world's largest brewery. Despite being at the western edge of the metro-area, I'm a mere 20-25 minutes from being parked at Coors. I mention this because I have a buddy who can usually get me the employee rate at one of the nicer hotels in downtown Golden, for friends and family who visit from out of town. Essentially, the deal is $55 per night, tax included, for a 2 queen-bed room that goes for about $130+. I MAY be able to hook a sizable group up with such a deal. I'll be going to the Tuesday night (the 28th) and Thursday afternoon (the 30th) games. Other enticements in Golden include tubing on the river running through town (way cool), the Coors Brewery tour, and drink prices at the local dive reminiscent of rural Wisconsin, circa 1978. There's also a rather unique and high-quality golf course for you duffers out there. http://www.fossiltrace.com/ I realize now that I should've posted this weeks ago, but flights are cheap, or if you drive like I do, you can make it here in ~15 hours. It would be excellent to meet some of ya'll! I'll be in Colorado. Not sure if I am going Wednesday and Thursday or just Thursday but I will be there

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jun 16, 2011 -> 10:47 PM) I do not think this will be true for much longer though. Scott Merkin had a piece on Whitesox.com about Viciedo and he was also on the score with Rosenbloom and McKnight earlier this evening. Merkin seems to believe that Kenny would ideally move Quentin to LF right now and call up Viciedo to start in RF. He also makes mention in the article of KW saying that Viciedo and Quentin will be in the same Sox OF at some point and it is someone else's job to figure out who leads off. Ozzie obviously would rather have a more traditional leadoff type hitter and hence sticks with Pierre. IMO, Kenny is dropping the ball though by not overruling Ozzie and making the move if that is indeed true. Sorry guys. I did not read the beginning of the thread where the article was posted. Hopefully, the stuff from the score is helpful still.

QUOTE (Real @ Jun 16, 2011 -> 08:00 PM) Sox have stated all along that Viciedo will be called up only to play fulltime Right now we don't have a spot for him He can't play 3rd We have somebody in LF, and RF We already have a DH We already have a 1B I do not think this will be true for much longer though. Scott Merkin had a piece on Whitesox.com about Viciedo and he was also on the score with Rosenbloom and McKnight earlier this evening. Merkin seems to believe that Kenny would ideally move Quentin to LF right now and call up Viciedo to start in RF. He also makes mention in the article of KW saying that Viciedo and Quentin will be in the same Sox OF at some point and it is someone else's job to figure out who leads off. Ozzie obviously would rather have a more traditional leadoff type hitter and hence sticks with Pierre. IMO, Kenny is dropping the ball though by not overruling Ozzie and making the move if that is indeed true.

The centerpiece of the Jake Peavy trade was let go by the Pads today. The White Sox already re-acquired Dexter Carter. Any chance they look to do the same with Poreda?

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Aug 13, 2010 -> 12:11 PM) A NTC can block a waiver claim too. Either the Sox are going to have to claim Manny, or he'll have to clear, and from the sounds of it, even with right around $5-6 mill left on his contract, he is probably not going to clear. From what I understand Manny does not have a typical contract. The Dodgers structured that deal to pay Manny deferred money over the next 2-3 years. With these terms, I find it highly unlikely that anyone would claim him. He would just pass through and then go to whoever works out a deal with Los Angeles. Again, I could be wrong here but I was always under the assumption that because of the deferred money, he'd clear.