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Someone from Dan Lozano's group

I doubt it. It's going to be a regional schedule.

Sox could still play there but it won't be against the Yankees.

I'll take your tickets.

I've heard nothing about makeup concerns. I interviewed him last week and have spoken to people close to him. I'd be stunned if he had any makeup issues. He was definitely heavier this spring. Professional strength program can fix all of that.

Lots of people care, actually. I want to see this White Sox team play baseball. I also don't want to see friends in many industries like radio, tv, advertising, media, scouting etc fired because there's no baseball this year. It's not about you. If you don't want to watch then don't watch.

I'm being a little conservative with Crochet. Shirley saw him this spring at a scrimmage and that sold him on the pick basically. Guys like Harold on this board love him and think the ceiling is huge. That can't be argued. We might look back and all feel stupid when he's a dominant lefty starter. The White Sox think they stole a guy. If he pitched the rest of the season, there's a decent chance he's not even on the board at #11. I'd understand ranking Crochet at 4 but I'd also understand ranking him behind Dunning and Stiever. It's very interesting.

I would do this: 1. Luis Robert OF 2. Michael Kopech RHP 3. Andrew Vaughn 1B 4. Nick Madrigal 2B 5. Jared Kelley RHP 6. Garrett Crochet LHP 7. Dane Dunning RHP 8. Jonathan Stiever RHP 9. Matthew Thompson RHP 10. Andrew Dalquist RHP I'd probably put Norge Vera in the top 10 but he's not officially signed.

For the purposes of what we do, they're still prospects Who wrote that line? I agree with you. This was the only way to get both players.

Our writers have been debating where to slot Garrett Crochet and Jared Kelley into the organizational top 30 list. We compiled our thoughts into a roundtable here: https://www.futuresox.com/2020/06/22/where-do-garrett-crochet-and-jared-kelley-rank-in-the-white-sox-system/ What does everyone else think? Where should they rank?

I'm not sure what it is that the MLBPA wants right now. This deal is significantly better for them than Manfred imposing a season. No DH, No expanded playoffs, etc. The players get a chunk of revenue for expanded playoffs. They don't get anything for traditional playoffs. I also don't think they win a grievance. That's why MLB is holding strong on ending the regular season on September 27th. By not negotiating past that stop date, it gives them an advantage if a grievance is filed in my opinion.

It’s very possible in pockets of the country. If every game were in Chicago/Milwaukee and NY area, they’d probably be fine actually

Nobody else has much more than that. I've heard people say he wanted like $4-$5 million. There's no chance anyone can do that.

Heyman said that's unlikely which makes me believe the owners think they'd win a grievance.

This was already known. Bonus pools stayed flat from the previous year. The White Sox are giving $1.5 million to Norge Vera. They're also giving like $1.8 million to 6 players that I confirmed earlier this year. Victor Quezada DR 3B $525K Manual Guariman V C $475K Dario Barrero V OF $350K Adrian Gil V RHP $250K Gabriel Rodriguez $100K Antonio Jimenez $90K. They should have just over $2 million in their pool unless they alter agreements or push guys to the next period.

For sure. MLB just wants to get to the post-season ASAP. It's where the owners make the most money and they think they can come up with a bubble plan if necessary to get the games played.

I'm surprised that the players are going to turn this down honestly. It doesn't make sense for them. They think they should get more than 60 games prorated in exchange for expanded playoffs, etc. I don't think they'll win a grievance though. If they agree to a deal: players get 60 games full prorated (37% of salary), universal DH (extra jobs), two years of expanded playoffs (some money for playoffs), keep some of the advance from March, not allowed to file a grievance. If they don't agree to deal: Rob Manfred imposes season around 54 games (33% of salary), no universal DH, regular playoffs (players don't get paid), return the advance from March, they can file a grievance that owners didn't negotiate in good faith. The owners were worried about this grievance. After the players most recent proposal though, I think they'd lose the grievance. MLB has consistently said season must end on September 27th due to COVID-19 concerns. I think that's mostly bullshit and it's about FOX tv deal. The players proposed 70 games though which was scheduled to go longer than September 27th which is the date that MLB's health experts recommended. I think by the owners turning down that deal and not countering, it allows them to win a grievance based on the fact that players weren't being reasonable by trying to go longer than what MLB's medical experts have proposed. MLBPA must feel otherwise. They have to think they can win this grievance. I think the owners would cancel the season in that case though.

Because their citizens listened to experts and getting sports back is the reward. We haven't done that in this country.

Exactly. There will be positive tests. This is why lots and lots of testing will be key in all of this.

This isn't true. In a lost season, 40 man players will accrue a year of service time. If they were to play 100 games though and Kopech played in 70, he'd get 70% of a year of service. That was agreed to in March.

Multiple Sox guys have been working out at Camelback this whole time.

He's good for the sport. He gets players what they're worth.

The league should just play every game in New York and Chicago now. I remember a month ago when I said Chicago would be a hub city for the NHL and people thought I was nuts.

Is it counting this year? If so it'd be: Zack Collins, Zack Burdi, Jimmy Lambert (Hansen, Call, Fisher), Jake Burger, Gavin Sheets, Luis Gonzalez, Lincoln Henzman, Tyler Johnson, Nick Madrigal, Steele Walker, Konnor Pilkington, Lency Delgado, Jonathan Stiever, Andrew Vaughn, Matthew Thompson, Andrew Dalquist and James Beard. The point is that using the first 5 rounds is stupid. If you're going to use WAR, just do it based on all 40 rounds since teams don't take players in order anyway. The drafts don't appear to be great from 2016-2017, but there are numerous future big leaguers in this 5 year span.

My guess would be Heuer is on the taxi squad initially but ready to go whenever. If the rules for this season are 65 games and expanded playoffs, the White Sox should be all hands on deck.