Chicago White Sox

Unfortunately it just seems like Jerry is going to go super cheap next year.

SoxMachine was saying just shy of $60M, but they may have been missing some retained / dead salary. I would anticipate a final payroll in the $75M to $80M range, so perhaps we still add a veteran bat and reliever later on in the offseason. But outside of a Crochet trade and some smaller moves, I think the bulk of the roster is in place.

Anyways, moving away from the incel debate, does anyone know where the payroll after these tenders?

Like I said, it’s going to be a bad lineup. But at least the bulk of guys are young and controllable, which to me, is more fun than watching a lineup with Pham, Maldonado, Lopez, & DeJong.

So at the moment, our Opening Day lineup could look something like this: Vargas, 3B Baldwin, SS# Robert, CF Vaughn, 1B Benintendi, LF* Sosa, 2B DeLoach, DH* Lee, C Fletcher, RF* Quero, Montgomery, & Ramos are all likely to come up at some point, with a non-zero chance of winning roles coming out of spring training. And obviously a Crochet trade could another player or two into the immediate mix. While the offense will almost certainly suck next year, at least it’s mostly young guys that you can dream on a bit even if most of them are admittedly long-shots.

Clear starter? No one, but for a rebuilding team coming off a historically bad season and in desperate need of some building blocking? Fletcher, the guy you were super excited about when Getz first acquired him and thought he could be an Eaton clone. Or DeLoach, a guy you said you could be a LH RF power bat for us. Why do you want to block these guys in a season where winning doesn’t matter when they liked as recently as a year ago? Just for the possibility of Hays rebounding and you can flip him at the deadline for something more valuable? I wouldn’t be completely against a Hays move if they plan rotate some of the OFs through the DH spot, but the original point was if you’re Getz and you’re looking to supplement Fletcher & DeLoach or whomever we get in a Crochet trade (and not replace them) then Slater on the cheap is a more realistic move as Hays won’t want to fill that role in the first place.

Hays also won’t accept being a platoon OF either.

Lol…treating him so poorly? Are you fucking serious dude?

Do you want me to find the link? It was from a legitimate baseball writer and not some random blogger. And as much I like to give Harold s%*#, he’s proven to have some actual inside info in the past. That being said, I agree that I find it unlikely that even Jerry would be that desperate to dump Benintendi’s contract.

Benintendi has been a terrible defender with us and has looked lazy in the field at times, so really not a David Eckstein clone. Regardless, a Boston report is the source of this and Harold has also implied that we may try to pair Andrew with Crochet to dump the contract.

Gotta catch em all!

Keep buying post hype guys from the Dodgers Getz and see how that works out

Vaughn? It’s his 5th full year. And even last year when he fixed his launch angle issues and hit more fly balls it didn’t really matter because of terrible swing decisions. I doubt a new hitting coach will be able to stop him from chasing shitty pitches all the time.

He gone!

Being rule eligible doesn’t make your ready for the majors, even more so with High School and LatAm players.

One also has proven to be a well below average major hitter over 1,400+ plate appearances. Give the me the mystery box over the guy we already know is bad.

Vaughn had a 20% BB rate in his Junior year at Cal vs. the 6% rate he’s been sporting the last three years with the Sox. His BB to K ratio was nearly 2 to 1. He was an incredibly disciplined hitter and that has not translated at all to the majors. And I disagree somewhat on the ability to punish the ball. His exit velocities (especially his max ones) are mostly fine. The problem is he’s no longer making good swing decisions and is chasing like crazy (bottom 21st percentile). I 100% believe having more than 135 plate appearances above Low A ball would have made some difference in that area. Doesn’t mean he would have turned to out to be a good pick or even a semblance of the guy he was at Cal, but you can pretend that essentially no time in AA & AAA didn’t have some effect on his long term development.

There was quote from Getz earlier this offseason that basically said anything they spend would likely be geared to the offense. I could still one C tier bat added to the mix on a short term deal. But again, depends on if they bring back Vaughn for one last hoorah.

We say this every year and he’s only getting worse. And if it was just tapping into his power better then I’d say roll the dice, but the kid has a sub 6% walk rate over the past three seasons. He simply isn’t the same guy he was at Cal, probably because he barely had any development time in the minors.

I think they will add least one reliever on a guaranteed deal. And they may need a DH / 1B depending on how non-tenders go and who they get back in a Crochet trade.

Steven Wilson has options and three years of control. You bring him back and hope he rebounds. Disappointing to hear Vaughn is likely back, but I guess that what you get when your GM lacks the creativity to find a positive WAR 1B.

I highly doubt they don’t sign at least one other major league contract. I’m not expecting anything crazy, but they almost certainly will do a couple dumpster dives to fill out the roster at minimum.

Come on Ray, this isn’t that hard. They called him up early in free agency and made him an offer. Clearly he was their top target for this role. Who cares if they said that out loud to him?

Again, we are talking about a guy signing for a $1M above league minimum for a weak-side platoon OF role. The max we could save by waiting is literally a $1M. If your new hitting coordinator feels he can return to 85% of previous form, then paying a tiny amount of money to secure your dude now makes more sense than settling for whatever scraps remain at the end of offseason.

You’re whining about their sales pitch now? If you don’t like the player that’s totally fine, but if Getz wants the dude then he should 100% say this s%*# if it will help get the deal done. Not sure how that’s even debatable.