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Crochet Trade Updates (Nightengale)
Chicago White Sox replied to Chicago White Sox's topic in Trade Winds 2024
I don’t need to know what the offers are, the dude has a unicorn for sale in a market desperate for SP. If Getz told teams he was dealing him now and not waiting until the deadline, then teams would stop slow-playing in hopes of Getz accepting a s%*# offer. -
Crochet Trade Updates (Nightengale)
Chicago White Sox replied to Chicago White Sox's topic in Trade Winds 2024
Fully agree. If Getz doesn’t trade Crochet, then Getz has completely failed this deadline. -
Crochet Trade Updates (Nightengale)
Chicago White Sox replied to Chicago White Sox's topic in Trade Winds 2024
I am bumping my Crochet trade odds up to 80%. Getz has every right to feel betrayed by Garrett’s agency going to the media with the extension demand, but the way he talked about it yesterday just screams a relationship beyond repair and in this org that means you are long fucking gone as the player. -
Yeah, the issue is we overpaid for Edman. I think turning Edman, Kopech, and Gonzalez (if you assume he was for Pham) into the three pieces we got from the Dodgers is mostly fine. But Fedde for Edman straight up feels like a very large miss and certainty a solid prospect short. I have come to terms overnight that this is both a bad deal for the Sox and one that could work out fine in the end.
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Vargas’ AAA StatCast figures are fascinating. For a guy known for his hit tool, his xBA is only .250 (vs. an actual BA of .290). This is much lower than most of the top AAA hitters despite K & Whiff rates in line or better than them (must be batted ball related, but that data is not available). However, his 19.9% BB rate helps offset this somewhat low average and pushes him to a xOBP to .413. But his high-end xwOBA isn’t just driven by his elite BB rate. He’s shown pretty good power figures demonstrated by his .276 ISO and .460 xSLG. But what’s super interesting (and maybe not good) is his hard contact rate of 35.3% is well below anyone putting up similar or better power figures and his Barrel rate of 5.8% is also on the low end for hitters in this area. Again, without batted ball data it’s hard to put the whole puzzle together, but at least his average launch angle of 21 degrees should theoretically be resulting in lots of line drives. The big question is how much of this is sustainable in the majors. His Statcast figures in the majors are putrid with poor quality of contact. And this year he has a pull % 16 points above league average which is clearly not sustainable and probably not helping given his profile. He has walked at very nice clips but well below that elite AAA level. If he can bump up the walk rate some and the quality of contact improves to a certain extent (which it should for a guy with a 65 hit tool), he’s going to be an above average hitter. I’m not sure he’s got the power you’re looking for in the middle of the order, but it feels like he could be a really nice top of the lineup table setter who provides a high OBP, pretty good speed, and probably average power. The lack of a position is obviously concerning, but it feels like he should have the tools to play a solid OF corner at some point his speed and arm. I know the OF is fairly new to him, but I would immediately put him in LF and let him get comfortable there (sorry Benintendi but you’re being relegated to worse DH in baseball history). He’s certainly not the sexiest of profiles and I don’t think Getz got all he could for the trio of players traded, but I feel like Vargas can be a nice piece of the puzzle if he can a defensive spot where he can be roughly average.
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Which is probably negative value…lol
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If you want you view this trade as a positive, you can cling to a couple of things. Vargas has hit incredibly in AAA this year and when using a 190 PA threshold, he’s ranked first in wRC+ at 149, third in BB % at 19.9%, & 4th in ISO at .276 all while sporting a BABIP below his career norms. Obviously these figures are inflated due to playing in the PCL, but so are everyone else’s and their AAA stadium actually has pretty average park factors. The other two kids we received may not have plus tools, but they both have advanced plate discipline at their age and that’s something we have struggled developing. Perez is sporting a .380 OBP and 119 wRC+ in Low A as a 19 year old and Albertus destroyed complex ball with a .479 OBP and 151 wRC+ before being promoted to Low A (he is also 19). While I always prefer prospects who have at least one non-arm carrying tool, guys with average tools that illustrate strong discipline early on oftentimes are underrated in these rankings. But to be clear, I hate this trade and the last remaining hope I had for Chris Getz all but died today.
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Lol…I wonder if that combined with the snitching is what got him the job. I bet Jerry was impressed with his creativity even if it ultimately didn’t accomplish a much of anything.
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I met someone back in November who hung in the same circle as Getz when they were at Michigan and the guy told me Chris was legit stupid and he was greatly concerned that he’d be a terrible GM. So far, that appears be some tremendous scouting of Getz.
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Getz pulling off multiple deals in ~24 hours seems far fetched. More likely he combines Crochet, Brebbia, & DeJong into one large, bad deal and calls it a day.
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Crochet Trade Updates (Nightengale)
Chicago White Sox replied to Chicago White Sox's topic in Trade Winds 2024
It’s really got to be up there. -
Crochet Trade Updates (Nightengale)
Chicago White Sox replied to Chicago White Sox's topic in Trade Winds 2024
Spite trades don’t end well usually…doesn’t help when Getz & crew are making them