Chicago White Sox

If you’re paying that much for two months of a reliever, you might as well pair it with an impact CF like Robert.

Angels get Klassen & Aldegheri which seems like a nice return

That’s true

What’s a trash move?

Yeah, the returns so far seem pretty reasonable for buyers.

A lot of movement and still no White Sox trades. Would have at least expected someone like Pham to have been dealt by now. Hopefully Getz knows what he is doing.

Agustin Ramirez in the trade (Yankees #3 prospect per BA).

No doubt, but far more interesting when paired with Pal’s comment.

Seems like there is legit smoke

Martin now officially on the active man roster ?

What you hearing Pal? Is a move imminent?

Good point…I’m all the way back in now.

It’s more quantity of over quality, but De Paula has star level hitting potential, Freeland seems like a guy who will be solid everyday guy up the middle, Hope will likely be cracking top 100’s a year from now, and then the arm would be a meaningful piece (say Ferris in this case). Maybe it’s not enough, but I feel like I’d have seriously consider it if I were Getz.

Good…hopefully we need them and soon!

Sherman wrote a column today on why the Dodgers could still be a fit for Crochet and even without an extension. His main point was the Dodgers are looking for a game changer for October since they are already a lock for the playoffs. And if they acquire Crochet, they can either work on an extension post trade or try to convince him that they can manage his workload (assuming as opener) and keep his arm healthy for a playoff run without one. I still think it’s a massive long shot, but I do agree they are the one team that would probably take on some risk in this type of trade. For the Sox, I don’t think you compromise your valuation all that much. I’d personally need De Paula, Freeland, Hope, plus a second tier arm to make a deal with them. And to me, that’s a no brainer trade for the Dodgers with the way they develop talent.

I’m hoping Guardians or Brewers as the landing spot. Both will value the extra year of control at $7.5M next year and have the positional prospects to make it happen.

One fascinating note is Paddy only has three players on this list. While the depth of the system is as strong as it’s been in a long time, it’s not sustainable if the LatAm pipeline is providing little to no talent. I know Jerry is a big problem there, but the series of misses in Cuba (Vera, Yogurt, Cespedes, likely Colas) and none of the larger non-Cuban not cracking the list (like Erick Hernandez for example) is highly concerning. Feels like a big change is needed there unless Jerry’s refusal to deal with 14 & 15 year olds is a non-negotiable.

I think it depends on what he can extract for Crochet, Robert, & Fedde. I truly believe you need five good to great positional prospects to come back from those guys to have any hope. I feel like the rotation should be in a pretty good spot by 2026 (health permitting) even with Crochet traded. And I’m confident we can quickly build a bullpen with the pitching depth we have amassed and a little bit of spending. But even with five positional additions (obviously not all of them will be hits), there is just so little to get excited about in the system. I just don’t get what we’re doing on the player development side though. When did this velocity issue first happen for Colson because he seemed to hit in AA and I feel like pure stuff is better in AA in AAA? How did Ramos have a great partial season in AA last year only to fall off a cliff? And Gonzalez at least had plus plate discipline in High A and now is just a bad all around hitter. I get that development isn’t linear and there can be big ups & downs over the course a season, but some of these drop-offs are shocking. I just wonder what we are actually doing to make these kids better.

Here is the updated list. Our top five selections in the draft made the list. Schultz, LHP (#8) Montgomery, SS (#34) Smith, LHP (#46) Thorpe, RHP (#51) Quero, CA (#90) Bush, LHP Iriarte, RHP Taylor, RHP Nastrini, RHP Ramos, 3B Eder, LHP Gonzalez, SS Bonemer, SS Baldwin, SS Zavala, OF Adams, RHP Batista, RHP Keener, RHP Wolkow, OF Larson, LHP Hernandez, CA Adler, RHP Hoopii-Tuionetoa, RHP Schweitzer, LHP Saucke, OF McLain, OF Luna, LHP McDougal, RHP Burrowes, SS Pallette, RHP

I hope you’re right, but it feels like there hasn’t been any movement on the SP front so that may take more time.

Who are these fans you speak of?

Seems like Crochet (if he’s willing to pitch in October), Kopech, & Pham would solve a lot of problems for you guys.

The title says it all. We have one of the worst offenses in modern baseball history and little to no pieces that will be part of the next good one outside of possibly Robert (if not traded), Baldwin, & Lee. As such, Getz will almost have to build an entire lineup from scratch which will be no easy feat. And to make matters that much harder, a ton of our top positional prospects have struggled this year in Colson (85 wRC+ in AAA), Ramos (66 wRC+ in AAA), & Gonzalez (77 wRC+ in AA). The three more advanced OF prospects in our system in Colas (97 wRC+), Fletcher (89 wRC+), & DeLoach (93 wRC+) all look more like AAAA guys. And there’s not a ton at the young levels to get excited about with Zavala hitting below .200 (despite an elite BB rate) and Burrowes mostly a disaster. Wolkow is obviously highly intriguing but has a long ways to go with the K rate before he enters the long-term plan and Ronny Hernandez has been a pleasant surprise this year but is a 19 year old catcher in A ball. As I‘ve stated before, I do have confidence in Bannister and the pitching side of things, but the outlook for the offense is beyond a bit terrifying. What should the plan be there? How do we go about building something capable and in a quick enough fashion to match up with the timeline of the pitching? And have we ever seen a GM have to accomplish this large of a task in recent memory, especially with positional prospects harder than ever to pry from other organizations?

Five real reasons for bumping this thread: Team is historically bad and well beyond Getz’s expectations Despite the awful results, the entire coaching staff still intact Right now, the Mena & Santos trades look highly questionable Have made no gains in terms of positional player development Incredible seller’s market and we may come out empty handed

It just sucks because had they started him in Charlotte for a month (which would have been completely readable) they would be able to sell him with three years of control this offseason. I’m just annoyed he didn’t handle this quietly and had his agency leak this to the press. Probably wouldn’t have changed the outcome, but this comes off real fucking selfish in my mind even if he has every right to be worried about misuse and his health in general.