Chicago White Sox

We have four starters under team control, if they trade Giolito where are they finding two good ones? These fake Twitter insiders aren’t even trying anymore.

I can’t see any of Jerry, KW, or Hahn wanting Maddon. To me, if Hahn is making the call the hire will be Espada, if KW is making the call it will be Washington, and if Jerry is making the call it will be Shildt.

All this has already been reported elsewhere, but glad the fake Twitter insider consolidated and pretended to be his own.

Would never happen so no reason to waste a second more speculating

What has Grandal done off the field? Is he actually a bad clubhouse guy?

The guys you named obviously helped out during tough spots, but are we saying Hamilton & Goodwin were policing the clubhouse and are the reasons why Moncada & Grandal imploded and Tim struggled after a hot two months? Don’t get me wrong, the lack of effort sucked at times this year, but there was clearly other stuff going on with Yoan, Yaz, & Tim (injuries, off-field, etc.). I just don’t think their struggles this year were primarily due to a lack of red-asses.

Why wasn’t this an issue in 2021 though? Was Rodon the red-ass?

You’ve heard these guys are clubhouse problems or that the Sox would like to move them?

Leveraging Uncle Jerry as a wild card when it comes to the manager hire does make some sense if you’re Rick Hahn.

I kind of feel like Espada is the target despite what fake Twitter & Reddit insiders seem to be implying.

Pollock was coming off a 3.1 win season, how was that bad money unless you are using hindsight?

If they plan to drop payroll, then I don’t see how we can reasonably compete next year. That would be so reminisce of the “half-ass” years leading up to the rebuild, but nothing would surprise me with Jerry. Hopefully this isn’t the case, although Hahn’s messaging at his end of season presser seemed to imply funds would be tight.

That’s weird that hiring a coach who said “f*** the HR” would gradually cause your team to lose its approach.

Can’t have a bullpen full of guys who can’t be optioned. Plus Ruiz just isn’t very good. Time to finally cut bait on him.

Benintendi doesn’t do it for me. I get he’s had a nice year, but not convinced he can repeat it and the lack of power leaves a lot to be desired.

My view is they can’t just use Colas as their only way to add lineup balance. We are going to need another OF who hits from the left side. Nimmo or Conforto could work, although the latter is a far riskier proposition given his 2021 results, missed 2022 season, and uncertain status of his should coming off surgery.

Something like is that what I’d expect. And our stadium is a great spot for a guy with LH pop to pad his stats a bit before hitting the market. I’d rather have the higher floor player in Nimmo, but Conforto on a pillow contract wouldn’t be the worst outcome.

That’s not even that crazy of a contract, but Conforto seems far more likely for us obviously.

I think for catcher Seby (or Perez) will get quite a bit of playing time next year, so the lines between starter & backup will quickly get blurred

How would people feel about this lineup next year? Nimmo, LF* Anderson, SS Vaughn, 1B Jimenez, DH Moncada, 3B# Robert, CF Colas, RF* Grandal, C# Sosa, 2B

Let me go on the record and say I want a younger manager than Bochy & Washington.

That’s a real possibility and I will lose my s%*# if they pretend Pollock can be an everyday OF.

I’d expect Vaughn to be a ~3 win player at 1B in his third season. And I’m not losing sleep over Big Energy’s 1.4 wins as I think Sosa can give us 2 fWAR next year if given the opportunity. Colas and any free agent OF will be big upgrades over the 1B/DH types we played in the outfield last year. The offense will likely be way better next year with just a handful of changes. Cueto gave us 2.4 wins, which was a godsend all things considered but also replaceable in free agency. I also think Kopech will be significantly better next year and Giolito has nowhere to go but up. Add a solid SP3 type and this rotation will be better than this year. And not worried about the bullpen given how much money Rick has invested there. Is that enough to catch the Guardians? I don’t know, but it will be a vastly improved team. I don’t think you realize how much damage Tony did this season. Getting rid of him & Menechino is worth multiple wins alone. My biggest concerns remain Jerry going cheap after missing the playoffs and Hahn being incompetent which ultimately prevent us from filling our couple big holes with quality players.

Fully agree that he’ll need to sign off on a hire, but don’t expect him to be overly involved. There should still be egg on his face after the embarrassment that was Tony.

JR isn’t stupid. He saw the s%*#-show that was the 2022 season and knows that Tony was a big part of it. I fully expect to tuck his tail between his legs here and let Hahn & KW make the call. The only exception is potentially vetoing a hire like Beltran due to cheating implications.