Chicago White Sox

What is a month on the bench going to change? It’s just delaying the inevitable.

You said “Patellar Tendinitis. 3-4 months. no doubt”, so not exactly what you predicted

What does RF have to do with our SP depth?

Exactly what I was thinking.

If I’m the Twins, I’m really starting to think long and hard about a Montas trade.

Honestly, the real failure is what’s at AAA. With Stiever out, it’s basically just Lambert on the 40 man plus Vargas & McClure if you’re really desperate. They need to find a vet who is willing to play in Charlotte for a few months at minimum.

I stressed it all winter, but the only thing that can prevent us from making the playoffs is bad and/or unhealthy starting pitching. And for the first two months of the season, we’ll be rocking this: Lucas Giolito Dylan Cease Dallas Keuchel* Michael Kopech Reynaldo Lopez Honestly, that’s a potentially bad rotation and all it took was one injury to the big three. There is no guarantee the rest of these guys will remain healthy while Lynn is out. Hahn needs to find a starter ASAP or risk letting the other AL Central teams hang around a bit too long.

Ciuffo isn’t on the 40 man roster.

In all honesty, this is a great move outside of some minor character concerns. Maybe a change of scenery gets the bat going a bit as well.

What happened exactly?

Luzardo had a 5+ FIP for the Marlins

Luzardo??

I wouldn’t worry about payroll salary since that includes a straight lined portion of his signing bonus.

Guaranteed money is only $1M different, but the CBT and cash impact is quite bit less for this year.

I would have thought the same, but he was consistently batting Harrison 7th before the Pollock trade.

I think we have close to $20M in CBT space, I think the bigger concern is cash payroll, but we did open up some with the Kimbrel trade.

He was batting below Harrison before the injury though

I have a feeling this is going to annoy for a good part of the season.

That may be the plan, but it’s a huge risk to go with what got now. I really hope Hahn has an ace up his sleeve here.

Oh I’m not saying they should have traded those two, just saying there was a way to get a deal done if the Sox were compelled to. Not sure where they go to from here if they’re unwilling to trade Vaughn or tap into multiple pieces at the very top end of the system.

That’s what they’re doing, unfortunately it takes time though and the pandemic really fucked over the first wave in Thompson & Dalquist. Hopefully they and Kelly can rebound this year because we invested a ton in those three kids.

Baseball America has a 45 FV grade on the kid the Padres gave up, while Montgomery & Kath are 55 FV guys and Popeye is a 50 FV. I know their valuations aren’t the end all be all, but Montgomery at minimum is a far superior prospect IMO. Now, Popeye is probably a fair comp, although he’s already proven himself at a level higher and I’d like to think that makes him a little bit more valuable. Regardless, this wasn’t a massive package like some were speculating and it’s one we could have beaten. Let’s say Popeye is off the table, I still think something like Ramos + Thompson would arguably be a better combo than what the A’s got here and still provided them with youth (although they haven’t been entirely focused on younger prospects in their trades).

Yeah, luckily most GMs don’t just leverage stat lines from a rookie season when evaluating young players and will consider scouting reports, prospect pedigree, development time, etc to develop their own go-forward projections.

In my opinion, the Sox could have easily beaten this if they wanted to. And it’s very clear they’re aware that they need another starter. As such, perhaps there is a different starting pitcher they are close on? Obviously Montas is an option, but the Reds still have Castillo & Mahnle. The problem there is you’re probably talking Vaughn or bust, although the Reds didn’t exactly get a haul for two years of Gray.