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Offseason Part 3 - Because Part 2 Was a Dud
Chicago White Sox replied to CentralChamps21's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Sounds like Vaughn++ for Manaea is a possibility: ?????????????????????????????? -
Offseason Part 3 - Because Part 2 Was a Dud
Chicago White Sox replied to CentralChamps21's topic in Pale Hose Talk
I’d love to keep Sheets, but with Pollock in the fold Gavin is going to get squeezed for at-bats as there is zero chance they go with a straight Sheets-Vaughn DH platoon. -
Offseason Part 3 - Because Part 2 Was a Dud
Chicago White Sox replied to CentralChamps21's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Nope, just feels like too much smoke and given we’re less than a week away from Opening Day we’re quickly approaching a boiling point. And with Kimbrel moved and $5M in cash now available, I think Hahn gets a bit more aggressive with his offers. -
Offseason Part 3 - Because Part 2 Was a Dud
Chicago White Sox replied to CentralChamps21's topic in Pale Hose Talk
You’re assuming everyone is healthy come October and it’s very possible someone is hurt or Kopech has simply run out of juice. Either way, it’s very apparent that relying on Kopech & Keuchel to fill out 2/5 of our rotation this year is incredibly risky. We need another horse and it appears the organization feels this way. I don’t want to pay a ridiculous price for Manaea, but I also don’t bad luck with the rotation to derail our season. -
Offseason Part 3 - Because Part 2 Was a Dud
Chicago White Sox replied to CentralChamps21's topic in Pale Hose Talk
So looking at the Bassitt & Gray trades as benchmarks, we’re probably looking at Manaea costing us a 45 FV or 40+ FV (if positional) prospect as the headliner along with a lesser secondary piece. From my perspective, Montgomery, Colas, & Vera are much closer to being 45+ FV prospects and are too valuable to be the headliner. That basically leaves Kath, Burger, Cespedes, Popeye, & maybe Ramos as possible headliners. Sheets is the one major leaguer you could add to the mix as well. If I had to guess, the Sox are trying to sell the A’s on one of Sheets or Burger as the main headliner while the A’s are still pushing for either better (Montgomery, Colas, & Vera) or younger (Kath, Popeye, Ramos) prospects. Ultimately I don’t see the Sox caving on the big three and I don’t think they want to give up Cespedes or Popeye given their potential newd at the major league level in the near-term. As such, I think we likely see one of Sheets, Burger, Kath, or Ramos paired with one of Thompson or Dalquist to get a deal done. -
Offseason Part 3 - Because Part 2 Was a Dud
Chicago White Sox replied to CentralChamps21's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Steamer projects Manaea to have the 21st highest fWAR amongst all starting pitchers. He is a very good SP but I think his lack of overpowering stuff with keep his price down some. That being said, he certainly won’t be cheap. -
Offseason Part 3 - Because Part 2 Was a Dud
Chicago White Sox replied to CentralChamps21's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Those are all from one dude in the same article -
Offseason Part 3 - Because Part 2 Was a Dud
Chicago White Sox replied to CentralChamps21's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Not so bold prediction, but I think Manaea is a member of the White Sox within the next 72 hours. -
Two random nuggets on Pollock’s contract that I haven’t seen reported: Sox are covering a $1.5M assignment bonus as a result of the trade Pollock’s $10M player option can increase to $15M based on plate appearances this year
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Offseason Part 3 - Because Part 2 Was a Dud
Chicago White Sox replied to CentralChamps21's topic in Pale Hose Talk
If the Sox can somehow acquire Manaea, it almost certainly pushes them to third overall in projected fWAR after the Yankees & Dodgers. Get it fucking done Hahn! -
Offseason Part 3 - Because Part 2 Was a Dud
Chicago White Sox replied to CentralChamps21's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Grandal should bat 3rd IMO -
So assuming Sheets is traded or in the minors, what’s our primary lineup going to be against RHP?
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Offseason Part 3 - Because Part 2 Was a Dud
Chicago White Sox replied to CentralChamps21's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Probably didn’t have much else to do during the lockout but good for him -
It’s spring training and he’s a veteran, why does he need to play with fire right now?
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Two top prospects plus Sheets is a massive overpay IMO. Like you said, Ramos could be a top 100 prospect as soon as July. Thompson was an overslot 2nd round pick who got a $2.1M bonus (Chase Petty got a $2.5M bonus and was the sole return for Gray). And Sheets hit RHP very well last year and actually passes the eye test from a quality at-bat perspective. I’d actually downgrade my offseason score if they gave up all three of those guys for Manaea.
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I have never heard of this guy in my life
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Oh that I could see, but seems like they’d give him a few weeks as a long man. As horrible as he looks right now (and it’s really bad) it’s still just spring training. Not sure they eat $18M that quickly.
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Offseason Part 3 - Because Part 2 Was a Dud
Chicago White Sox replied to CentralChamps21's topic in Pale Hose Talk
From today? -
Offseason Part 3 - Because Part 2 Was a Dud
Chicago White Sox replied to CentralChamps21's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Them little legs tire out easily unfortunately -
I think he’s starting to convince me of that
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Meatball city right now
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You think they’d cut Dallas if they acquired Manaea? Can’t see it happening.
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The price of Manaea is skyrocketing by the second
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Offseason Part 3 - Because Part 2 Was a Dud
Chicago White Sox replied to CentralChamps21's topic in Pale Hose Talk
That didn’t take long. Is it serious? -
Offseason Part 3 - Because Part 2 Was a Dud
Chicago White Sox replied to CentralChamps21's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Yup, Manaea is just not the type of pitcher to command a ridiculous haul as a rental.