Chicago White Sox

Leury isn’t good against RHP despite being a “switch hitter”, so platooning him with a bunch of RH hitters doesn’t make sense to anyone but Rick Hahn & Tony La Russa.

Roster Resource has Leury Garcia as our RF against RHP… Like for the love of god please sign Michael Conforto!

At this point you try slipping him through waivers and simply accept defeat when someone claims him.

Lopez settled for $2.625M or a little less than the $2.8M MLBTR was projecting. Just leaves Giolito now.

So instead of adding left-handed balance we abandon it all together?

What about something like this? CWS: LHP Manaea & C Marchan PHI: CL Kimbrel & $5M cash OAK: 3B Burger, RHP, Dalquist, OF Adolfo, & OF Y. Garcia Basically allows us to address SP & BC in one trade without adding any salary.

No it doesn’t

I think the problem is twofold. First, Boras wants to get paid based off of Conforto’s 2017 to 2020 performance when in reality every team will demand some sort of discount to offset the risk of his shitty 2021 season. Second, the QO isn’t doing him any favors as rebuilding teams would probably rather wait another offseason to address their OF when they won’t lose a pick and precious bonus pool dollars.

People keep saying a Vaugh/Sheets/Engel/Leury combo in RF can replicate Conforto’s production, but dude was a ~4 win player prior to last season. So either you guys are basing all go forward expectations on a down year or think we’re going to get some of the best RF production in all of baseball out of two unproven 1B and a guy made out of glass.

And yet the best relievers make 2.5x to 3x time what Leury makes. WAR doesn’t account for context and treats all runs as being worth the same, which is 100% not the case and that’s reflective in what GMs pay for high leverage relievers.

That’s a ridiculous analogy and you know it. Look at what closers get paid on a per inning basis and tell me high leverage outs aren’t more valuable than other outs. And I’m not even disagreeing with you general premise that we should address the main holes (RF / 2B / SP) before spending at the top of the market for multiple relief pitchers.

Adolfo is gone within the next three weeks. And let’s not overreact to four spring training games, Yoelqui needs to prove himself in AA before we make any plans around him.

They’ve been waiting for robo umps for some time now

Can you summarize what’s happening here? I’m at a swim lesson for my kids and can barely hear.

Graveman got a three year deal.

Legend will ensure it’s the under when he gets 80 games out there.

When you leak information, you only control the message, not how it’s disseminated. The Sox don’t get to tell Levine where to go share this information. They simply want it out there somewhere and let happen organically at Bruce and others’ disposal. Again, I’m not arguing it’s effective. Personally I think it’s kind of dumb. But we were all there for the Machado negotiations and saw first hand both sides leaking stuff back & forth. And Boras uses leaks all the time. Just follow Jon Heyman’s Twitter account if you don’t believe me. Also, front office leaks aren’t always trying to mislead an agent, but oftentimes opposing front offices. Blind bidding processes aren’t easy and downplaying a need can theoretically help other teams feel like they are bidding against themselves.

Sure, but spending at the top of the market and giving two guys multi year deals (which only a handful of relievers received this offseason) is not the inefficiency.

All fair points…I just don’t think Conforto on a 4/$80M deal constitutes a huge contract. It may be big for us, but it’s not giant for most clubs.

No one wants you to leave Soxtalk, but when you make silly arguments you will be called out for them. Works that way for all of us.

Agents and front offices both negotiate through the media all the time. Are you actually suggesting otherwise? Whether it’s an effective strategy is an entirely different debate. And no, I don’t think Hahn leaked something to Bruce to specifically go on air today to get Scott Boras to pump his fist in the air. I think the Sox want it to appear throughout all media outlets that they are content with Andrew Vaughn as their primary RF and don’t need an expensive, multi-year upgrade. It’s really that simple. Also, I find it somewhat amusing that half the board now believes we are out on Conforto because fathom found two random accounts on Twitter that claim they have inside access to payroll budget. I love fathom and perhaps he’s ultimately right here, but right now this seems like Charles the Cat all over again with the Cubs signing Bryce Harper.

Then you better hope Jerry isn’t the owner by then, because no way he gives Giolito the contract you’re hoping for.

100% agree.

This is absolutely hilarious. You think Hahn is pursuing relief pitching because he thinks it’s a market inefficiency? ???. At least we finally found Rick Hahn’s Soxtalk account.

Is your argument let’s never sign expensive free agents because there is some chance they don’t work out?