Chicago White Sox

Come on Pito, make them pay right now

The HRs aren’t there yet for Yoan, but they will be coming soon

Moncada needs to be the hero today

Have you actually seen Burdi’s stuff? And who cares if a reliever is 26, pitchers break out all the time at advanced ages. They’re going to give him some rope, especially with a new pitching coach in place who might be able to tap into his vast potential.

Nothing wrong with being excited about Engel coming back, but we’ll still need more after that IMO.

You must have a sadly pathetic life then to waste all your free time policing a forum you hate

Lol...you want to rock an outfield of Engel, Leury / Hamilton, & Eaton? Never change Longo!

Thanks Tommy...shouldn’t you be focusing your efforts on ripping Yermin with factually incorrect claims?

Lol...that is brutal.

There’s definitely some risk with Marte, but I’d hope that gets reflected in the price. Regardless, we need an OF upgrade no matter where we currently sit in the standings.

My concern is Haniger or Gallo is going to cost Kelley plus other things. Would rather keep him in house at least another year or two, because his value could increase significantly and he’d potentially be able to be the centerpiece for a much more impactful piece down the road.

He has a history of making off-colored comments about things that typically apply to players of color, like gold chains and tilted hats. No place for any fun or character in a white man’s game!

I’m starting Taillon on my fantasy team today. I hope he gets fucking destroyed.

Add Iglesias & Marte and you could be looking at the following roster come October: Anderson, SS Robert, CF Moncada, 3B# Abreu, 1B Jimenez, LF Mercedes, DH Grandal, C# Marte, RF Madrigal, 2B IF: Mendick OF: Engel OF: Vaughn UT: Garcia# BC: Collins* Giolito Lynn Rodon* Kopech 9th: Hendriks 8th: Bummer* 8th: Iglesias 7th: Crochet* 7th: Heuer 6th: Fry* 6th: Foster LR: Keuchel* LR: Cease

I don’t think Miami will be three games back come July 31st and don’t think there’s any way they win that division and are unlikely to get a Wild Card spot with reduced playoff spots. IMO, last year was an anomaly. As for Haniger, I actually loved him as a possible replacement for Eloy, but I’d prioritize a guy who can also play CF. Marte gives us insurance in the event that Robert’s recovery hits a snag. Also, Mitch is under control through 2022, so he’s likely going to cost more than Marte.

So if I’m Rick Hahn, my two primary deadline targets are Iglesias for the bullpen & Marte for the OF. The question then becomes what would these guys cost? Starting with Iglesias, relievers are always in high demand at the deadline and usually require a premium. That being said, the Reds didn’t get a huge return when moving him this offseason and he’ll cost ~$3M in salary to take on, which might be a problem for some clubs in this economic environment. That being said, they won’t just give him to us. I think an arm like Lambert or Pilkington (if his velocity is indeed back) plus a more seasoned relief prospect like Tyler Johnson might get it done, although I may see if they’d take a shot on Marshall instead of the latter. I know some people may hate that (Jimmy & Tyler both have their fans), but Iglesias would solve a massive problem for us. As for Marte, I’m going to keep this one simple. I think cashing in on Jake Burger makes all the sense in the world given he’s basically blocked everywhere here (unless you think he can play 2B) and flashing legit major league ability. He will need to keep it up for another month, but I could see teams highly interested in him. While the Marlins do have Brian Anderson at 3B, he’s only under control for two more years and can play RF if need be. I definitely think they’d be interested in him as the primary piece for Marte. Throw in a relief prospect like Caleb Freeman and I think you are probably close given Marte will cost ~$4.2M to absorb and is a true rental. Theoretically, this means you’ve added two high impact pieces for a 2021 postseason run without giving up Stiever (our best AAA depth piece) or any of the key Kanny starters. I’m not sure I can come up with a better, more realistic outcome for us that doesn’t require gutting the system.

On the OF side of things, I was all for Gallo until I started looking at his splits. When I did, I realized he’s not nearly as good against RHP as I originally thought. Meanwhile, there is another OF that could be available in Starling Marte that could help with our problem against RHP while being versatile enough defensively to play both CF & RF. Here is how these two guys’ wRC+’s have compared against RHP over the last five years: Marte | Gallo 2021: 127 | 98 2020: 114 | 96 2019: 126 | 124 2018: 118 | 108 2017: 116 | 119 Given that Marte only has one year of control left, I think he will likely come way cheaper than Gallo would which is a huge plus. And while I’d love to add more power, I do think Gallo’s unique three outcome approach could make an already streaky offense even moreso. While I don’t think you can go wrong with either guy, I’m all-in on Starling if the price is right.

Alright, I know this is meant to be a bullpen thread, but adding a OF will also be important IMO and given how shitty the system is at the moment I think it’s fair to consider how adding a bat will impact our ability to add a reliever. My view on the bullpen side of things is to target a rental. As we saw this offseason, we can play at the top of the RP market. Therefore, I wouldn’t overpay at the deadline for control. And looking at teams that will likely be sellers, the group of potentially available RH setup men that will be free agents after the year is slim. One name that does stand out to me is Raisel Inglesias. He’s had a rough start to the year, but the velocity & pitch movement is consistent with prior years. It just appears that he’s given up a ton of hard contact this year (33.3% HR/FB rate) and I’d expect that to normalize over the rest of the season. What I love about Inglesias is he has plenty of closer experience along with big strikeout out stuff, which gives you another strong option for high leverage situations along with both Hendriks & Bummer. Plus he’s another Cuban, which gives Caulfield another Disney storyline to run with (although in all seriousness, it might make him a bit easier to re-up). Right now, Iglesias would be the reliever I’d be targeting if I were Rick Hahn.

Too early to write off Burdi, but he’s got to figure out how to command his stuff and fast. So far in AAA he has 8 Ks & 6 BBs through 5.1 innings. I still think he has elite stuff, with three potential plus pitches, but it’s all meaningless if he can’t learn to harness it.

Leury? Isn’t his arm really good?

What else would you expect from Tommy Longo?

What in the fuck are you talking about? He has a 155 wRC+ over his last 10 games and a 192 wRC+ over his last five.

Yay, another DP

That’s fair and I don’t disagree about the power issue, but we’ve actually been a little bit better than I expected.

Outside of Madrigal, Leury, & Vaughn, everyone else is above league average against RHP with the bulk well above.