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Dodgers sign Bauer (3/102, opt-outs, 40-45-17)
Chicago White Sox replied to Jose Abreu's topic in The Diamond Club
No way he’s getting a $40M AAV, come on dude -
We have been active and it could definitely be worse, but under no circumstance does Jerry deserve accolades for this offseason. In this market we could have done serious damage with a willingness to spend, but right now a roughly league average payroll and a minimal increase vs. 2020 looks like what we’ll get despite claiming we are going for it. We have no choice but to accept that, but we can at least call out clowns like Sullivan who are trying to sell us fans a false narrative.
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My favorite quote in that article is this: Like that is some serious water carrying or whatever you kids call it these days!
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Garrett Richards to Boston, 1 year $10 million.
Chicago White Sox replied to Chicago White Sox's topic in Pale Hose Talk
My money is still on Richards, although that “by Sunday” prediction is not looking so hot at the moment! -
Trade Whispers - Starting Pitchers
Chicago White Sox replied to Chicago White Sox's topic in Pale Hose Talk
I think most of us are excited about Kopech, but he hasn’t pitched in forever and will be on a strict innings limit. He should the start the year in AAA as our 6th starter and that’s totally fine. -
Trade Whispers - Starting Pitchers
Chicago White Sox replied to Chicago White Sox's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Depends on what the cost is and how much Jerry is willing to spend. I do like Musgrove a lot better than most of the free agent starters, but I’m also hesitant to give up say Jared Kelley for him. It’s really a tough call IMO. -
I felt it was time to celebrate our great owner Jerry Reinsdorf and applaud him for going all out amidst a financially crippling pandemic. Times are tough, even for billionaires, but that’s not stopping Jerry from playing at the top of free agency and doing what needs to be done to deliver us a World Series caliber product. Come October and we’re holding that beloved trophy, don’t forgot moments like when Jerry won that bidding war for Adam Eaton despite the financial duress it likely caused him. We truly are lucky to have an owner who puts winning above all else atop our organization. Thank you Jerry from the bottom of all our hearts!! Looks like great minds think alike as Paul Sullivan wrote a fantastic piece about this very subject. I recommend everyone read this and thank Paul for this excellent, though-provoking article. https://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/white-sox/ct-chicago-white-sox-liam-hendriks-jerry-reinsdorf-20210116-rhgupqhn5rhivlpu7xh5jyqnxq-story.html?outputType=amp&__twitter_impression=true
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Trade Whispers - Starting Pitchers
Chicago White Sox replied to Chicago White Sox's topic in Pale Hose Talk
We should aim higher than a #5 type starter. -
Trade Whispers - Starting Pitchers
Chicago White Sox replied to Chicago White Sox's topic in Pale Hose Talk
In a perfect world, Kopech, Lopez, & Stiever enter the 2021 season as our #6, #7, & #8 starters. I think those guys would work very well in those roles, but failing to add another starter moves them all up a spot and forces one of them (likely Lopez) into our opening day rotation. That’s not acceptable for a team looking to win the World Series next year. -
Garrett Richards to Boston, 1 year $10 million.
Chicago White Sox replied to Chicago White Sox's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Agree with this. -
Garrett Richards to Boston, 1 year $10 million.
Chicago White Sox replied to Chicago White Sox's topic in Pale Hose Talk
We’re arguing semantics here, but I would consider trading important core pieces like Cease, Kopech, Crochet, or Vaughn to be an all-in move. I love Dunning but he is simply not that caliber of prospect. -
Garrett Richards to Boston, 1 year $10 million.
Chicago White Sox replied to Chicago White Sox's topic in Pale Hose Talk
The Lynn trade wasn’t an all-in move given where Dunning was in the pecking order. It definitely shifted future value into the 2021 season, but we still have Giolito plus Kopech, Cease, & Crochet as potential high-end arms ahead of him in our long-term plans. -
Trade Whispers - Starting Pitchers
Chicago White Sox replied to Chicago White Sox's topic in Pale Hose Talk
How would free agent starters make us weaker when our #5 right now is Reynaldo Lopez? -
Trade Whispers - Starting Pitchers
Chicago White Sox replied to Chicago White Sox's topic in Pale Hose Talk
I think Beef is grasping at straws here a bit with this Perez stuff. I’m sure we checked in on him, but I doubt we were ever serious. I still think Hahn is targeting Richards or Quintana and is playing a bit of chicken with them. If he fails in those pursuits and nothing materializes on the trade front, I could see Wainwright or Archer as backup plans, but I see those being last resorts. -
Trade Whispers - Starting Pitchers
Chicago White Sox replied to Chicago White Sox's topic in Pale Hose Talk
I think Musgrove is far more interesting and would likely blow Quintana out of the water in terms of production. And Tanaka isn’t going to be cheap and will require multiple years. I’m not saying we should do the trade, but I could very easily see that being the price. -
Trade Whispers - Starting Pitchers
Chicago White Sox replied to Chicago White Sox's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Musgrove for Kelley + Beard...who says no? -
Trade Whispers - Starting Pitchers
Chicago White Sox replied to Chicago White Sox's topic in Pale Hose Talk
What have you heard on potential prices for Gray? -
Trade Whispers - Starting Pitchers
Chicago White Sox replied to Chicago White Sox's topic in Pale Hose Talk
I think he should sign with a rebuilding club that won’t quickly move in another direction if he gets injured. -
Trade Whispers - Starting Pitchers
Chicago White Sox replied to Chicago White Sox's topic in Pale Hose Talk
What is your proposed deal? -
Trade Whispers - Starting Pitchers
Chicago White Sox replied to Chicago White Sox's topic in Pale Hose Talk
He had a partially torn UCL in 2016 and avoided getting TJS. Sounds like that was a poor decision that ultimately blew up on him and resulted in more lost time than necessary. I know there were other injuries mixed in there, but the dude was basically fully healthy last year. No doubt he is a risk, but if you believe the UCL is finally good to go, I’ll happily take him on a 1/$8M deal and hope I can get at least 100 quality innings out of him during the regular season and then for him to play a role on our postseason pitching staff. -
Trade Whispers - Starting Pitchers
Chicago White Sox replied to Chicago White Sox's topic in Pale Hose Talk
It’s definitely not time to go all-in. If there’s a trade out there that makes sense then do it, but sacrificing the entire future for a couple of years is crazy. And being the AL favorite in January doesn’t guarantee you a World Series. Right now, we simply need to make sure we have enough depth to make it to July. I’ll maintain my position that adding Richards & La Stella does that. We can then hope some of our younger prospects take steps forward that allow us to add at the deadline without having to move core pieces like Kopech or Vaughn. -
Trade Whispers - Starting Pitchers
Chicago White Sox replied to Chicago White Sox's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Tanaka is not taking a one year deal. -
Trade Whispers - Starting Pitchers
Chicago White Sox replied to Chicago White Sox's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Now that would make much more sense for the Reds given their current roster. -
Trade Whispers - Starting Pitchers
Chicago White Sox replied to Chicago White Sox's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Did he actually improve or did he simply play better in a small sample? -
Trade Whispers - Starting Pitchers
Chicago White Sox replied to Chicago White Sox's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Fully agree...makes no sense IMO.