Chicago White Sox

Worked in management? What in the world are you talking about? A GM that is being forced to hire the owner’s long-time buddy to manage his team clearly doesn’t have the proper influence or decision making authority to be successful and would likely quit. I don’t care what badass job you think you had that makes you feel otherwise, but you are wrong here. A manager who doesn’t get to hire their direct reports is only a manager in title. It’s really that simple. And when has Jerry ever forced a manager on one of his GMs? The only thing even remotely close was the Guillen situation and he ultimately sided with KW. For fuck’s sake, he let Hawk fire La Russa years ago and supported Krause at the expense of Jackson. I’m sure Jerry is involved in the decision-making process, but he’s not going to force his front office to hire certain people.

If Hahn was not allowed to hire his own manager he would probably quit. This Jerry is going to override the front office and force them hire La Russa is total bullshit. That is not how the dude operates. I’d wager large sums of money that Hinch will be the manger within 10 days after the World Series.

As a depth piece that’s totally fine. But we should strive to do better with our RF hole and under no circumstance do you offer him arbitration.

Of course it means nothing, but more exciting than arguing against delusional pro Mazara comments.

Since my RF thread has been destroyed by endless Mazara talk, figured I mention in here that Steve Adams of MLBtraderumors has the Sox as his pick to land Springer.

What are you giving up for Frazier?

The Sox are going to spend what they are going to spend. Jerry isn’t going to tell Hahn the payroll is $180M with La Russa, but only $130M with Hinch. That’s just completely nonsensical.

He’s just speculating that’s what a hiring decision would imply. Either way, the fact they are going after the big name managers implies there is more in the coffers then they are letting on.

If you’re talking all players at all positions none of this is remotely true.

13th overall in what? The AL for RFs?

What do you mean by “ops”? You just want the link to what I just posted? If so, see below: https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=rf&stats=bat&lg=all&qual=150&type=8&season=2019&month=0&season1=2019&ind=0&team=0&rost=0&age=0&filter=&players=0&startdate=2019-01-01&enddate=2019-12-31&sort=5,d

If it means we’re planning to spend ike crazy, then sign me up. Unfortunately in the world of financial constraint, a space Reinsdorf typically operates within, a McCann signing likely means limitations elsewhere.

Here is FG’s 2019 leaderboard filtered on RF and sorted by HRs. I have not gone through it detail to see how generous their definition of RF is but the point is a lot of guys hit 20 bombs.

Especially when paired with a monster 20 bombs!

But at the same time, how the fuck would you know? Seems to me that Stone would have access to much better info the matter than you.

I did and gave that $3.5M to Marwin. Not sure if that’s feasible or not, but between a down year in 2020, his past connection to Hinch (my targeted manager), and economic uncertainty I felt it was possible.

This is pretty similar to my SoxMachine offseason plan which had Bauer + Calhoun as key additions plus Kela for the pen, Peacock as a swingman, and Marwin Gonzalez as a UT guy.

I know your article mentioned we probably still have $2M+ to spend in the upcoming period, but any chance it’s closer to $3M? Seems like we’d have a much better chance of adding one of Colas or Cespedes + Pino if that were the case.

That would be fantastic. Pretty wild there has been no major movement on Cespedes. We are basically 80 days from the official signing period start date and there hasn’t been much noise at all. At least with Colas we know he’s got some contractual stuff to work out.

If they were to add this Pino kid, I would think that means they have a bigger plans for RF this offseason. Otherwise just sign a stop-gap so you have a cheap RF option potentially ready by 2022 in Colas or Cespedes.

Sure, but does that mean every young pitcher in the game is into analytics & biomechanics as much Bauer like Let Ray Ray just claimed?

And why did Stone tweet this about him if “any youngish pitcher is just like Bauer”? I can totally respect not wanting to overpay him if you think he overachieved this year, but discrediting his drive & willingness to learn is complete bullshit and makes me think you just don’t like the dude.

Bauer put up a 5.8 win season in 2018. Why does that season not count?

You should be paying free agents for what they are projected to do, not what they’ve done in the past. Obviously past results can be an indicator of future performance, but you can’t just fall back on career WAR and assume that’s who a guy is. Bauer is a student of the game and is constantly trying to make himself better. Over the last three years he is 6th overall in fWAR amongst starting pitchers despite a fairly ordinary 2019. Is he on Cole, deGrom, or Scherzer’s level? Probably not, but this year he was better than two of them and nearly as good as DeGrom. Without question Bauer is a #1 caliber starter and one who is capable of being amongst the best in the game when things are clicking. Given both his talent and durability I think he deserves a contract close to what Strasburg got last offseason. I think his personality and the pandemic will likely prevent that from happening, but the dude deserves to get paid this offseason and will likely clear $200M.

What’s the plan for Vaughn then?