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Sox looking at building in South Loop
Chicago White Sox replied to southsider2k5's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Believe what? -
Oh gotcha, so he couldn’t say “no comment” then?
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Why would Chris Getz feel compelled to comment on this?
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My theory (hope) is that Getz is trying to raise the floor with cheaper vets, but will be willing to cut these guys if a young player proves ready. My fear is that it won’t matter, because we now a roster full of them and Grifol has already stated he won’t sacrifice a single win for development.
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Rice is a total wild card, but I do think a cheap platoon DH who can serve as an emergency 3rd catcher has real value. Given his age and lack of tools, he’s a guy the Yankees shouldn’t lose sleep over giving up in the back end of a deal.
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Theoretically it would be good to have a LH bat off the bench who can pinch hit for the catchers, DeJong, & Lopez late in games. But Sheets isn’t even a good hitter against RHP at this point, so obviously a questionable fit.
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Vivas is tough for a couple reasons. First, I think he’s got more near-term utility for the Yankees than other prospects in the teens for them (and may be simply too good to be a 4th piece). I also question the fit now for us with very light power in the corner OFs. Obviously it’s still very early to worry too much about lineup construction, but I don’t like to the idea of having three spots dedicated to guys with below average power for their positions. I think Serna would be a more realistic get at the bottom end of a deal with solid power upside (but not LH).
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For me, if the Yankees won’t do Jones and we have to “settle” for Arias (and I fully get that Rodrick is a very special talent), then I want Lalane as the #3 piece in the deal. Arias, Hampton, Lalane, and a semi-decent 4th piece (and ideally someone not too far out) could work for me. Call me crazy, but I’d be willing to take a flyer on Ben Rice as that final piece and hope he can be our future DH after an Eloy trade come July.
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That’s my concern unfortunately. Obviously a deal could come together quickly since we’re not looking for any “win now” pieces, but less time limits a little bit of the gamesmanship and requires two very serious parties.
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Would be nice if Boras would hurry the f*** up with his free agents, because I still think there is going to be someone desperate for Cease when it’s all said & done and that could very well be the Yankees. But it’s going to suck for Getz if Boras drags this s%*# out deep into Spring Training like he probably will.
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Sox trade Cristian Mena to Arizona for OF Dominic Fletcher
Chicago White Sox replied to Heads22's topic in Pale Hose Talk
One thing worth pointing out is that Arizona’s AAA site (Reno) is super offensive friendly and anyone even worth the slightest damn absolutely crushes there. Accordingly, Jake McCarthy put up some fantastic numbers there (better than Fletcher), but has been a very ordinary hitter in the majors so far. Not looking to throw more shade at this move, but Dominic’s AAA numbers are somewhat meaningless without additional context, especially the power figures. -
Let’s hope contract year Moncada is a healthier, more motivated Moncada.
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Sox looking at building in South Loop
Chicago White Sox replied to southsider2k5's topic in Pale Hose Talk
It’s a really bad article -
Orioles Acquire Corbin Burnes for Ortiz/Hall/34th Pick
Chicago White Sox replied to DirtySox's topic in Pale Hose Talk
We’re talking about guys like this on non-contenders. Unlikely most of those names will on the block come July, which is good for a Cease market. -
Orioles Acquire Corbin Burnes for Ortiz/Hall/34th Pick
Chicago White Sox replied to DirtySox's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Who are likely sellers who will actually have high-end SPs available at the trade deadline? Most of the true garbage teams in our company don’t have a SP that is the quality of Cease. I’d say the Tigers with Skubal fit the billing the most and possibly the Marlins with Luzardo. And I don’t see a hopeful contender like the Mets with two aces who could underperform and then undermind the market. I candidly hate waiting until then due to general pitching risk, but I think the market conditions will be even more favorable than they are now and how they were last year. Which is why I’m shocked more teams aren’t willing to pony up for Cease now, because the price will almost certainly go up with even the slightest of improvements from Dylan. -
Orioles Acquire Corbin Burnes for Ortiz/Hall/34th Pick
Chicago White Sox replied to DirtySox's topic in Pale Hose Talk
We also gave up Lopez who was a pretty desirable reliever. I will continue to look at the trade as Quero for Giolito and Bush for Lopez. Doesn’t change your main point, but I think it’s worth clarifying. -
I think the odds of Grifol being here next year are super low. I’ve speculated on this before, but I think Getz didn’t want to pursue a new manager yet because he knew the team would be garbage (with a ton of bad vets) and he had other areas to prioritize. Sucks we have to endure him for another year, but it is kind of fitting as I view 2024 as a sort of bottoming-out type season for us. Also, gun to head right now, I kind of feel like Grady Sizemore will be our next manager.
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Regarding the Burnes package, Joey Ortiz is probably a ~2 win SS and Hall will likely be a quality LH setup man. While not sexy, it’s a lot of cheap production and they save quite a bit of money and maintain the draft pick they would have gotten for Burnes had he left in free agency. Doesn’t seem that unbalanced to me.
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Sox looking at building in South Loop
Chicago White Sox replied to southsider2k5's topic in Pale Hose Talk
I must admit I’m enjoying the taste of Josh Nelson’s tears…dude is literally shook by the lack of parking. -
Sox looking at building in South Loop
Chicago White Sox replied to southsider2k5's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Any way to see these other renderings if we missed the WGN 6pm news? -
Sox looking at building in South Loop
Chicago White Sox replied to southsider2k5's topic in Pale Hose Talk
These renderings are the same ones that leaked previously (but with more) and still look absolutely incredible to me. Going from the Rate to this stadium would be the greatest comeback story in Chicago history. -
Sox looking at building in South Loop
Chicago White Sox replied to southsider2k5's topic in Pale Hose Talk
I feel like they will find a way to get it done, but yup, I’d probably have to move to Alaska if they fucked this up -
Didn’t see it reported elsewhere, but Lane Ramsay was DFAed as a result of this trade. I will say the 40 man roster is much better balanced than it was entering the season: SP: 9 RP: 13 CA: 3 IF: 7 OF: 5 1B/DH: 3 Regarding the 40 man roster, we’re starting to run out of obvious fat to cut. On the position player side, Sheets seems like the only guy with a real risk of being DFAed. Right now, his ability to backup Vaughn at 1B is the only thing keeping him on the roster as DeLoach could serve as a LH bat off the bench while also providing much better OF defense. My guess is Sheets makes the Opening Day roster but is given an incredibly short leash. That means if/when Pillar is added it will have to come on the pitching side. Speaking of that, I’m guessing Martin & Foster both begin the year on the 60 day DL, which would open up two 40 man spots. Pillar will eventually get one of those spots and the other will likely go to a RP of some sorts. I fully expect Leasure to force his way onto the Opening Day roster, so that would likely eat up the other spot. And given how few bullpen spots are locked down, I think at least one, if not two NRI guys could make it. To make room, I feel like Peralta would be the most obvious candidate, but Banks & even Lambert (no options) could be in the mix. I do think Speas will safe given his ceiling. Where things will get really interesting is when the young guys start pushing their way onto the 26/40 man roster. Who gets cut once Montgomery is ready for his shot? Who makes room for Nastrini? Obviously there will be a lot of trades come July, but I could easily see these force the issue before then and see a lot more activity than usual in May or June. The team will likely suck but at least there will be a lot of roster action.