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    White Sox 2020 Draft Day discussion thread

    in FutureSox Board

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    3 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

    The biggest fear factor for Crochet is health, which also happens to the thing the Sox do better than anyone else in baseball. 

    This used to be true, but not as much anymore. I saw some speculation that the "sore shoulder" from earlier this year was actually an off-field issue. His other injury was a comebacker to the jaw.

    Michael Kopech

    in Pale Hose Talk

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    15 hours ago, chitownsportsfan said:

    Seems like there are some concerns in scouting land about his secondary stuff ever developing.  I dunno.   He seems like a guy that can pitch off the velocity and spin rate on his fastball well enough.

    I think it's that combined with his lack of control, or at least his history of it. He looked really good in the high minors in 2018 though, so maybe that's taken a step forward.

    Hahn is getting all the praise, Theo no longer "Sainted"

    in Pale Hose Talk

    Posted · Edited by daggins

    Both were successful executives who are maybe underappreciated because they were part of a now-gone era in team building where aggressive trading and spending were feasible strategies because teams valued players very differently, both from today and from each other. Now, every FO is basically the same and it's basically killed the hyper-aggressive "win now" approach in favor of hoarding as much pre-arb talent as possible.

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    Hahn is getting all the praise, Theo no longer "Sainted"

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    12 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

    Where did I move the goalposts?

     

    You said he was a hack who couldn't build sustained success. We pointed out that, in fact, he built sustained success in Detroit. Then you said he "hit some home runs" whatever that means, and that he wasn't an org builder.

    BTW he was GM of the Tigers from 2003-2015. All of that winning was him. Whether it was draft or trades/FA doesn't matter - he built sustained success.

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    Hahn is getting all the praise, Theo no longer "Sainted"

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    5 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

    So only 3 of the 4 huge contracts he gave out were bad in Detroit. Got it. 

    The 1997 Marlins won with Veterans - the average age of the team was 29 years old. Their starting rotation didn't have a single home grown talent, and of the position players that impacted the roster, only Charles Johnson was a ++ player that was drafted and developed by Dombrowski.

    Dombrowski is a FA/trade first GM who hit some home runs - absolutely - but he portraying him as some organizational builder through the draft is disingenuous. 

    Keep moving those goalposts dude

    Hahn is getting all the praise, Theo no longer "Sainted"

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    1 minute ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

    Dombrowski has zero clue how to build an organization; he knows how to spend with endless budgets on big free agents - many who have destroyed the Tigers franchise. Then he went to the Red Sox and did the same exact shit. 

    The Tigers made the WS twice and won the division 4 years in a row under Dombrowski; the Red Sox won a WS. The game has changed and I think his time as an effective GM is over but to deny his success is to deny objective reality.

    White Sox Sign Robert to Extension

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    16 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said:

    Go away buzzkillington. Only positive vibes allowed. 

    This is pretty funny coming from you.

    Far be it from me to rob anyone of their joy, just remember that if he struggles initially that I was right on the internet, the best kind of being right.

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    White Sox Sign Robert to Extension

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    The main way that Brinson and Robert are different is in their GB and FB rates - Robert has less data, but his FB rate at every stop in 2019 was above 40%, Brinson at the same level was below 30%, I believe. That should at least help Luis get into his power better than Brinson, although I think the K rate is pretty concerning.

    White Sox Sign Robert to Extension

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    Posted · Edited by daggins

    From the Fangraphs chat w/ Edwards today:

    Stephen
    2:09
    Luis Robert's "Future Value" is just "55", which is equal to Nick Madrigal's (another White Sox prospect), for example. These projections aren't adjusted at all given Robert's 2019 minor league performance? Also, does today's news (contract extension) change his 2020 projections (considering he will likely play a whole season in the majors now)?
     
    Craig Edwards
    2:14
    In some respects, the signing means very little for the White Sox. Depth Charts already had Robert slated for 120 games and 504 plate appearances. I think we can probably add 25 more games and 100 PA, so that will help his projections some. As for his 55 future value, I'm sure Kiley and Eric will factor in his performance last year, but in keep in mind they could have adjusted him up during the season last year and didn't. There are concerns about how his walk rates and swings and misses will translate at the big league level as well as him in center field. He's not quite as good of a prospect as Eloy Jiménez was last season due to those concerns with the bat, and even Jiménez struggled some to start the season. Also, a 55 is still one of the top 20-50 prospects in the game.
     
     
    EDIT - I think there's enough risk here that this isn't a slam dunk.
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