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QUOTE (ptatc @ May 26, 2015 -> 12:49 PM) I don't think I heard a single person, fan or "expert" who didn't think the offseason was filled with good moves for the right guys. For some reason most of these haven't panned out so far. That's baseball. Ventura will need to be fired because you can't fire the whole team. Personally, I think he has done a pretty good job but the results aren't there so something will change. My point is that there are some posters on here who seem to blame the fans for not attending enough games to provide enough money for this team to be successful. This team absolutely has enough resources to be successful, moribund fan base or not. The guys in charge have just failed at scouting and/or developing their players, which has lead to our one playoff appearance since 2005. I liked the off season, fwiw.

QUOTE (LDF @ May 26, 2015 -> 09:42 AM) i may be beating this drum, but i still think that positional players the sox got can do it. i now have no faith in the coaches / manager. My point is more that the White Sox don't need any more resources to win games: they're already supporting a top half payroll without skimping on amateur spending (refusing to game the international market notwithstanding). Management (Hahn and KW) just hasn't effectively used its resources for the last decade, and it shows.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 26, 2015 -> 09:08 AM) Chicago could support two teams easily, and has when the stars align to the liking of the bandwagon. Sox fans choose to withhold their support for pretty much any reason under the sun, but that doesn't mean they don't exist. The market is very much there. Trust me, if the White Sox were to leave for some reason, there would be at least a franchise or two which would kill for the market, Oakland and Tampa Bay come to mind right away. The frustrating part is if Sox fans had half of the loyalty of the rest of the top notch franchises in baseball, they would have the resources and ability to do what other franchises can do. They wouldn't have to choose between major league and minor league spending. The White Sox are spending enough money to win right now. They just don't spend it on the right guys. Also, it honestly sounds like you're mad at bandwagon fans... for acting like bandwagon fans.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 22, 2015 -> 12:07 PM) The reason attendance is an issue, is it creates many of the issues that people are complaining about, and they don't see the connection between the two things. The White Sox are limited in the types of approaches they can make to building a team because of their fan base. If you are OK with the fan base, you have to be OK with the limitations it puts on the franchise. It is reality. The problem is when the other side of the coin gets mentioned, it inevitably moves on to the smartass responses about ownership, without any acknowledgement of what role attendance actually plays to the success of the franchise. The White Sox have the 15th highest payroll this year and are within 6% of the 10th highest. 8 of the 14 teams with higher payrolls have better winning %'s than them. 8 of the 15 teams with lower payrolls have better winning %'s than them. The White Sox do not need to spend more money.

QUOTE (southside hitman @ May 22, 2015 -> 09:27 AM) http://www.chicagonow.com/future-sox/2015/...three-shutouts/ recap posted. The link to the BR page for Spencer Adams appears to be incorrect.

Is there a fan base out there that hates itself more than ours?

QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ May 21, 2015 -> 11:28 AM) They should be doing it for ME as a courtesy. It's the least they could do for your winning streak.

QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ May 13, 2015 -> 02:42 PM) http://www.und.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/051315aac.html EDIT: Mods please change the thread title to read 2015-16. First game in the newly renovated arena. Should be a good atmosphere.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ May 11, 2015 -> 10:23 AM) Their games are broadcast on 620 AM, it seems a few times a year the radio station has promo days where the game starts at 6:20. I wonder how much the Score would pay to have a few Sox games start at 6:70 PM? Mind = Blown

Saw this comment on another board and had to laugh:

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ May 5, 2015 -> 10:45 AM) I love Jeff Shamuljaja and his boundless ERA. If only it were boundless in the other direction.

Impressive at bat for Flowers.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Apr 24, 2015 -> 11:46 AM) Duke quick pitched someone last week. This was my thought as well.

f*** the Royals.

QUOTE (fathom @ Apr 23, 2015 -> 10:47 PM) No problem with letting Emilio bat here. Hopefully he knows the season's started. Only problem I have with it is that he's played like hot garbage.

QUOTE (Yoda @ Apr 23, 2015 -> 10:44 PM) You can only hope this would ignite a spark up this teams behind. At the least, the next 15 games or so with the Royals will be personal. I think every game with the Royals is personal.

QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Apr 22, 2015 -> 09:30 AM) Is Hackenberg really that big of a prospect? I could see "suck for Luck", but Hackenberg wasn't all that good last year. Not sure he's worth tanking for, but that Penn State roster was pretty devastated by the NCAA sanctions.

QUOTE (Brian @ Apr 21, 2015 -> 05:53 PM) Lovett changed his Twitter header to a a pic of him in an Illinois uni. Illini Nation jumping to conclusions! I'd be pretty surprised if he ever ended up at Illinois.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Apr 17, 2015 -> 01:06 PM) http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/2015-mlb-dr...-april-edition/ Sox linked to Carson Fulmer. Some interesting stuff on Aiken here.

Just finished paying off my student loans last month, and my credit score dropped 40 points this month due to "no open or recently reported non-mortgage installment loans." Just can't win these days.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Apr 15, 2015 -> 01:10 PM) Even after the 3 k's today, .292 2 hr 5 rbi in 8 games Not bad. It was less than 72 hours ago, Robin was an idiot pinch hitting for Soto. This is only the 8th game. I don't think the production continues. Edit: and fathom is completely correct about the defense.

QUOTE (Capn12 @ Apr 15, 2015 -> 01:03 PM) Soto, so locked in today! Our catching situation is pretty scary.

I got July 16.

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Apr 14, 2015 -> 10:04 AM) Sounds like Austin Colbert is done at Illinois. Sad. He definitely flashed some potential and his floor was fine as a very high energy player. So much better than Morgan. Now Illinois really needs another big. Says more about Morgan, IMO.