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QUOTE (La Marr Hoyt HOF @ Jun 2, 2017 -> 10:55 PM) Just sayin we want to rebuild, f this year. You kidding? I don't think anybody is arguing to go for it this year. The consensus is focusing long term, spoken from the GM himself. Not sure what you are arguing here brother

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jun 2, 2017 -> 04:16 PM) So many games against teams in the division. Baseball made a big mistake doing that. My gawd. It's always the same games. Chisox vs Det, Minnie, Cleve, KC. ... Grows old. What would you like to see? 11 games against each team in the league and 8 interleague? You'd get the superstars to different cities more.

It's a little bit harder to breeze through a season when your entire pitching staff isn't having a career year. Almost everyone pitched out their ass last year. I don't think Russell is a good major leaguer. He'll stick around because he plays a decent shortstop, but his bat is terrible. It's fun to look at his stats from last year when he wasn't playing the Reds or Padres AAAA pitching.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ May 31, 2017 -> 07:30 PM) I'll admit I'm only speculating based on publicly available information (which isn't much). And you're 100% correct there could have been other factors that constrained the market. But the one fact we do have is there was a limited supply of quality starting pitching available in free agency and a limited amount of teams that had a surplus to trade. The market should have been theoretically great. Again, maybe there were other factors that we're unaware of did hurt Quintana's market. We'll never really know. Regardless, if I were Hahn I guess I'd ask myself why I'd expect those constraints to suddenly go away and if a sudden change in supply of quality pitchers would more than offset them. Outside of perhaps banking on some trade deadline desperation, I don't see how Hahn could have realistically expected future markets to be better with any level of certainty. Too much comparing to regular markets. The only rule about baseball markets is that there is no rule. Levels of desperation and playoff potential are the driving forces throughout 12 months of baseball. Take the Astros. I'm sure they felt like they had the division going into the season. Desperation to throw together a good package wasn't there, so of course they offer a barely decent offer. They had the luxury of waiting into the season. But now things are evolving and they can kind of forecast playoff matchups a bit. Maybe Quintana is a piece for a deep run, playoff potential has skyrocketed. What if Keuchel goes down? Desperation will skyrocket. Offer increases. Just saying that a collective of teams does not determine a value- that's ludicrous. It's who needs what, when, and how bad.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 30, 2017 -> 10:16 PM) LOL. If you think it's compelling stuff to put down the poor/immigrants/Muslims and anyone seeking the American Dream that's NOT white, okay. He sounds exactly like Mick Mulvaney. It's going to result in a disastrous mid-term election for the GOP in 2018. But who knows, 40% of the people in America believe that illegal immigrants TODAY IN AMERICA (under the Trump regime) actually have a MUCH easier time than whites born as American citizens. Dude. I just said I have a big heart for all people. Who the heck do you think you are telling me that I think it's "compelling stuff to put down the poor/immigrants/Muslims and anyone seeking the American Dream that's NOT white". I have absolutely no beef with you or anyone on this board Caulfield. Why on earth would you just call me a racist piece of crap? Why do that?

QUOTE (raBBit @ May 30, 2017 -> 11:07 AM) Why is it when someone disagrees with a specific belief they have to answer for a whole political party who they may or may not agree with or identify with? At the least, why is it someone who disagrees with something has to respond to all of your irrelevant tangents? It's a deflection. It's pretty simple here. I, and many others who have come out of the woodwork to speak out against your's and Reddy's opinions, believe in equality of opportunity. You and Reddy believe there is not equality until the outcome is entirely equal. That will never happen. You and Reddy are not fighting a losing battle, you are fighting for something that has no basis in reality. It's not going to happen. You are looking to get others on your side, but in action, you are just pretentiously arguing an altruistic, utopian dream is attainable (it's not) and the first step in achieving it is putting down others based on their race, gender and orientation is essential to achieving this. This contributes to divisiveness and makes white people who have relevant life experience, we know you two have had most provided for you, very much questionable to their unjust systemic discrimination based on race as opposed to wealth. Unfortunately, institutions have followed suit in contributing to the race and sex based discrimination but at the end of the day, it's a blatant departure from equality. No holier than though standing and personal opinions of yours is going to change that. You're slaying it in here right now. Super on point, calm and in control. It's quite pleasurable reading and as a grown man in this world with a big ass heart for everybody, I completely agree with every point you've made I think. Rockit

QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ May 30, 2017 -> 03:15 PM) Given the team either sucks horribly, wins 60 games, and and guys like Avi and Davidson and the Garcias all suck balls or the team wins 78 games and those guys do well -- I'm taking the latter every time. Any draft pick is still 3-4 years away from MLB at best. Improvement in the MLB roster is more important. Yea it would be nice to have a top 3 pick but it will be nicer to guys improve that are still cost controlled and can be part of the next Sox playoff team. Exactly. We have way too much premium talent on the roster to net a top pick, or so it seems at this point. The additions of Rodon, Moncada, Lopez & Burdi are going to make the Sox quite a bit better.

I don't think there is an alt-right, at least the way it's used. The way it's talked about you'd think there are tens of millions of white supremacists around the country picking on minorities. The fact is there's probably a few thousand tops doing the same s*** they've always done. Interesting what a spotlight will do. The only thing that you see is whatever the spotlight illuminates. People are retarded. Nothing is different than it was a year ago. The only difference is there are now tens of millions mad at a straw man. Just my humble opinion.

Moncada, Lopez & Burdi coming up soon.

QUOTE (Dam8610 @ May 28, 2017 -> 08:26 PM) Obviously it would be more valuable at 3B, but is a .250 BA/20-25 HR/.825-.850 OPS good enough to work at DH? Well a 20-25 HR guy with an .800+ OPS is never going to be the worst player in a given lineup- probably one of the best. Personally I'd love a Delmonico/Davidson Corner combo with Abreu at DH/Backup 1B. Add in Good Frazier and I dunno where any of these guys are going to play. And then Yolmer and Saladino too? Glad I'm not Hahn or Rick this July.

QUOTE (greg775 @ May 28, 2017 -> 12:38 PM) Sale vs the White Sox in the Cell is coming soon. Hate to be a pessimist but it's gonna be sooo ugly. Our lineup is mighty pathetic. I can't even imagine how many strikeouts he's gonna have. Prediction: 1 hitter or maybe even a no no with 17 Ks and we lose 7-0. You gots a prediction? He's going to be so amped up. Think we'll see some 100mph heaters?

QUOTE (Sox-35th @ May 28, 2017 -> 11:07 AM) I'd still do it. For as bad as Schwarber has been this year, it's still such a small sample size and he would be a monster DH. While this may be true, his entire sample size says he's completely useless against LHP.

Lotta blending going on here

The minority of anything has to work harder than the majority. Essentially there's tall privilege, white privelege, throwing a fastball harder privelege, size of military privelege, being smarter privelege, living in America privelege, being from Kenya if you run marathons privelege. The list goes on and on. The other guy has to work much harder. Rocky vs. Apollo. The refs didn't tell Apollo to stand there and take a bunch of uppercuts. And Rocky knew they wouldn't. It sucks it is this way but that is the way the world is set up. All black dads should be telling their children to outwork & outsmart everybody else. If the deck is stacked against you, you gotta work that much harder. Meanwhile if you are a minority & you do work harder in the beginning, Lady Diversity will roll out the carpet for you. You will get free college because of your skin, and you will get hired first because of your skin. So yea it can suck more at first and suck more forever if you let it, but if you work harder it's actually easier in the end. Funny thing society.

I feel like I've been excitedly waiting 5 years to see Danish's quick delivery. Idolizing Keith Foulke's delivery as a teenager is probably the reason I'm not in the majors today.

QUOTE (winninguglyin83 @ May 25, 2017 -> 09:11 PM) Like tossing Black Jack and Alex Fernandez at 'em. I loooove when you analyze

QUOTE (greg775 @ May 23, 2017 -> 09:26 PM) Once these bastards started on concerts and sporting events ... that can really change things drastically. They've been encouraged to attack these type venues and quite frankly with the rent a cops on hand they "could be" very very dangerous venues in the future for fans. That said, this is an unspeakable tragedy. I'm still speechless and don't want to say anything but sorry for the victims and their families. Yea man, well said. I wonder if some type of response comes from this. Kids dying ups the public thirst for vengeance you'd think.

QUOTE (greg775 @ May 23, 2017 -> 09:37 PM) Thank you. That helps much. I tell you, I'd rather have Bernie who is at the opposite end of the spectrum than the elitists like Trump. How can a Presidential candidate lie about such things? I mean if this is true and Trump said what you said, this is really appalling. If he flat out lied, he should be called on it daily. If this is true, anybody who voted for him expecting no cuts to these services just got f***ed over, flat out f***ed over. I know politicans are famous for lying about things to get elected. Maybe tons of them have done this as well. it still sucks if he ran on this and flat out was lying. I mean I guess the voter should just assume any Republican is lying when it involves positive solutions regarding social issues and common guy issues (health care, food stamps, social security, medicare). Not trying to stir it up, but at this point in time, Bernie was our only chance at compassionate social policies. (This is assuming correctly that Hillary was unelectable). This is very sad. I guess in 4 years it'll go back to normal. I'm assuming Trump will want no part of re-election. I mean OK, lets say like a friend of mine you have a horrible pre-existing condition. Now she has insurance under Obamacare. Will her company be able to immediately drop her? She'll never get insurance. Each treatment will be 50000 or more so she'll be homeless soon. Multiply her situation by thousands after thousands. We almost have to go to socialism at this point. Our system is barbaric. The problem with the socialist medical sytems is that people can't get treatment timely. It flat out doesn't work. The articles online spout stats about it working but the people actually living in these countries can't even get their babies delivered sometimes. I'm in a position where i hear these stories pretty regularly. Not saying our system is much better, just that full single payer for 300+ million would be the beginning of the end of the American Age. It's a mess in Scandanavia and the UK and their populations are much smaller. I think the answer is a universal switch to concierge medicine across the board. Everyone carries insurance for serious disease. Insurance companies win, and people win. The only people that lose are all the coders and billing departments at every hospital/doctor's office. The need for that field would plummet.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 23, 2017 -> 03:26 PM) So simple solution is not allowing any Muslim family to emmigate to the West in the first place in order to prevent their children from radicalizing when limited educational and economic opportunities might raise their ugly heads? It sucks that there is no solution. The empathy, do-nothing route is CLEARLY not going to stop terrorism. Targeting Muslims is CLEARLY not going to help. The problem with the million+ immigration to Europe is not the Syrian refugees. It's the people from other areas piggybacking it, saying they lost their passports. And everyone knows that's happening by the tens of thousands. You can't deny that. You'd be a f***ing idiot to think people aren't using it as a smokescreen. A real f***ing idiot. Pretending to be a refugee is a free ticket to get out of African and other Middle Eastern failed states. Just so happens many of those people blame the west for collapsing their governments and funding Daesh. Syrians are pissed we keep funding Daesh. I don't know if there is an answer. I don't think temporarily banning travel from failed states without record keeping is the worst idea. It's a nice middle ground between doing nothing and going too far. Nobody has an answer that's great. But folks love to fingerpoint at those that are at least trying

QUOTE (flavum @ May 21, 2017 -> 07:39 PM) After first 40 games: Min 22-18 Cle 21-19 Det 20-20 Sox 18-22 KC 17-23 Crazy. Think we got this?

The only reason I think Soto and Robles are available is because their bullpen is comically bad. It's not like teams are calling them looking for prospects and the Nats are saying "Sure we could use a good reliever". More like the Nats are calling 911 because the house is on fire. Their window is this year and next year and they need more than one quality reliever to make a deep run. Robertson and Jones (if he comea back fine) would help them soooo much.

How'd he do in the sim game?

Soto, Severino & Robles for Robertson & Jones?

I understand how rebuilds take a while and seasons of sucking are to be expected. But how bad can a team with Abreu, Avi, Anderson, Moncada, Quintana, Rodon, Burdi, Jones and Kahnle be? Add in all the nice upside that comes with L Garcia & Sanchez's improvements, Davidson & Narvaez holding their own, Fulmer, Lopez & Kopech knocking at the door... I just don't see how this team is going to be bad for a while, if even this season. This team is better than last year's arguably now, but for sure when the AAA guys come up...despite losing Sale and Eaton. f***in Avi Wine Mixer. Just sayin

QUOTE (SouthSide2004 @ May 20, 2017 -> 04:16 PM) I'd be cool with Rutherford or Frazier in a Quintana trade (amongst others), but my plan isn't that far fetched. I really think one of Soto or Kieboom is realistic get for Robertson. A guy like Pavin Smith should be available at #11. We also have a few other interesting positional prospects in the system (Delmonico, Call, Basabe, Fisher, Adolfo, etc.), plus a few more assets that could be traded to add more (Nate Jones in particular). Adding one impact free agent bat isn't really anything crazy either. Honestly, I think the key part of this move is that if you believe Robert can stick in CF (still TBD), you've now got high profile young talent up the entire middle in Anderson, Moncada, & Collins. And it's much easier to find above average players in the corners than up the middle talent or premium pitching. If we can now hit on the Quintana & Robertson trades, our rebuild should be in a great spot. What if we just keep Quintana, let the young guys bloom for a couple years, then sign Harper & Machado to identical 4 yr/$150M contracts.