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QUOTE (2nd_city_saint787 @ Oct 2, 2012 -> 10:22 PM) I agree with the first part of your post...But to continue the injury thing that I've been beating all to hell these past few days...1. He's got an oblique injury, you cant get the same body torque if thats bothering you. and 2. PKs collapse due to the injury gave Dunn virtually no protection. When you have a healthy PK hitting behind you you're gonna get a lot more pitches to hit. I can understand the Thornton hate, though I think its overblown but why the Crain hate??? A 2.44 ERA with a 1.08 WHIP isn't good enough for you? I agree with your Crain statements. Guy has some big-time stones IMO as he pitched out of many important innings. Thornton sucks. Nobody has ever needed their 2 mph back more than this man! I don't buy the protection theory really. Didn't Dunn look overmatched in pretty much every AB against a quality pitcher? I feel like he lucked into most of his hits. Of course this is just my eye test which means s*** really. But it's what I saw dadgummit.

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Oct 2, 2012 -> 05:24 PM) On what? We do need a RHP that can throw harder than 91-92. Aren't you surprised Jake was able to do as we'll as he did with his weak stuff? Dude learned how to pitch a little bit, but good hitters could smack him around.

QUOTE (2nd_city_saint787 @ Oct 2, 2012 -> 05:32 PM) The man nearly has 100 RBIs and is 3rd in HR, most any team would like to have him....We knew all along that he was gonna K a lot and wasn't gonna have a high BA yet most here loved the signing when it happened. How do you plan on replacing close to 100 RBIs?? There are only 15 guys in the MLB with more. It's all phony to me. That 2-homer game last week was the only time I can think of him playing like a superstar for us. It's not just the Ks. It's the fact that he's not a feared hitter. Sure he can bat fifth or lower next year, but c'mon, we need a legit #3 hitter. Most of our problems go away if we add that one guy.

I would do everything in my power to trade Adam Dunn. Too bad we'd have to pay the whole salary AND include Thompson and probably Sanchez. Maybe the weak-hitting Rays could somehow be fooled into thinking Dunn would help them. They seem like a smart team though...Baltimore? I can't believe I probably have to watch that selfish pull-hitter sit in our 3hole for the next 2 years. No higher than 5th next year or I might not be able to watch games.

QUOTE (South Side Fireworks Man @ Sep 28, 2012 -> 04:41 PM) It would help not having a .208 hitter batting third. The Sox need to somehow acquire a .300/30HR/100+RBI guy to hit third, or their offense will still suck. I think this is the sole reason the offense always looked dead. Gotta be able to advance the 1 and 2 hitters more than 20% of the time. Sadly, our offense was probably never feared.

Konerko's fade/injury killed the team. I'm surprised the guys were able to sustain for so long with the black holes in the lineup. Dunn, Ramirez, Viciedo and Beckham were pretty much a guaranteed 2/15 any given night. Add Youk to that maybe.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Sep 23, 2012 -> 03:20 PM) Ball carries a LOT better there in day games though, than night games with the marine layer and colder air. At least Dunn PROBABLY won't finish below a .200 average, there's that, for 2013. And his possible/potential trade value. Absolutely brutal sky/sun to fight with today...every ball hit to the outfield's going to be an adventure, like Viciedo's fly ball to Wells in LF. Do you think Dunn has trade value? Just watching him, one can't help but notice how overmatched he is. I'm under the impression we would have to pay salary just for a team to take him let alone get a prospect back. We might even have to pay a few million just to get another GM to waste his time considering it. What are your thoughts?

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Sep 5, 2012 -> 05:54 AM) Greg, their stated goal from the first week he took office was to defeat him. He spent a whole bunch of time trying to get their support on stimulus and the health care bill, and last kept trying to do everything he could to betray his liberal base to strike a "Grand Bargain" that would have led to terrible changes in social welfare spending while getting a small amount of tax increases in return. They simply will not give him their support and reject anything he puts forward, even if it was their preferred policy a few years ago. I think you are making Greg's point for him here. Great leaders rally their troops. Why can't Obama rally a few hundred Congressmen? Or inspire the American people? Where were those speeches that got him elected 4 years ago? Where's the clear direction, the focus? I don't know, he won't tell me. Not saying Romney would be any better, I think he's weak too. Obama is our President but a leader? No way! The average American's lack of faith in Washington is more than ever! Proof! Until a President unifies Washington I'm unimpressed. That will be a great man.

QUOTE (Greg Hibbard @ Aug 28, 2012 -> 12:09 PM) Here's hoping he strikes out 300 times. After all, it's just another out. With all due respect, you know damn well plenty of people rightfully disagree with this. Of course that's why I assume you said it like it was gospel right, to get a jab in? Some people believe there is such a thing as a productive, team-oriented, getting the job done, or sacrificial out. Some people don't and that's ok with me. Why can't some people acknowledge the two sides of this topic?

QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 26, 2012 -> 09:26 PM) Folks, Tyler Flowers has proven to me he can play in the big leagues. With limited at bats, he's still managed to pop six home runs and he's good on defense. It's not his fault he's blocked by the great AJP. Sad thing is AJP figures to sign another 2 year deal with the Sox, blocking Tyler further. This is not a rip of AJP. I want AJ to stay. I just want to see if you agree with me ... Tyler Flowers is a big-league catcher. He is not a bust. His bat is looking shorter and quicker every time he plays. Granted Millwood isn't overpowering but I liked what I saw today. I'd like to see a list of the pitchers he has hit this year. So what would you do next year Greg? Can they both stay, happy to go for back to back titles?

Do one thing for me boys...Get...Mendoza!

Yea Hector has been lights out! I didn't realize how great of a year Jordan Danks had down there. Night and day from his last 2 years

QUOTE (Chet Kincaid @ Aug 14, 2012 -> 09:01 PM) I love cruising Tigers forums after a White Sox win. Nice dude me too. Any good ones outside of MotownTigers?

QUOTE (Butter Parque @ Aug 14, 2012 -> 08:48 PM) Your incompetence does seem to get under my skin because I question if you know what the heck your watching Can't talk smack with back2back "your/you're" screw-ups. Elementary man, making us public school kids look bad to the elitist Caesar!

Doesn't help tonight we squandered the only contact he'll make this month. That was the hot streak folks, that was it. Sure hit the anal s*** outa that one.

QUOTE (Caesar @ Aug 13, 2012 -> 08:40 PM) Beckham is a flat out bust. I want him gone. He does smell busty.

Mr. True Outcome shouldn't be #3. Late in games there is no pressure on the opposing manager when Dunn is at the plate, since he is likely to get out regardless of lefty or righty pitching and also not advance any runners on base. Imagine if the 8th and 9th innings went Deaza, Youk, AJ, Pk, Rios, then the donkey. 5 tough outs in a row ALL THE TIME. Let the easy outs come after the grinders bat. I just hate the cheap easy out teams get after Youk bats.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Aug 8, 2012 -> 03:54 PM) Of course you didn't. But my point is, even when Dunn is good he goes through periods in which he appears to be the worst player in baseball. For sure. Like right now he hasnt made contact with a baseball in like 2 series. Then fans look at his BA near .200 and his OBP creeping towards .325 and most fans go YIKES. They aren't idiots, they just prefer a different style of baseball from the heart of the order.

Haha this thread is awesome. It was nice to see our #3 hitter get his first RBI since what that homer in Texas? We should platoon him where he only faces guys who throw less than 91mph. But yea I hope he gets 250k to add to his feared, Ruthian legend.

QUOTE (JPN366 @ Aug 5, 2012 -> 11:10 AM) Nope, he just sucks. Best case scenario with him is that he's a long term project. Maybe he is working on something. Obviously the stats don't tell the whole story.

I sure hope Molina's been working on something...something that makes you look like you suck in stats. Ah yes, the cutter.

Trout just said "f*** you Beckham, you ain't no major leaguer."

QUOTE (flavum @ Aug 4, 2012 -> 10:44 AM) I say we just hit the gas and catch the Yankees and Rangers for best record in the league. Ohhhh yea!

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Aug 3, 2012 -> 02:07 PM) Why does he even need that? He's not even finished with his 3rd year in the minors. Pretty sure he gets 5 or 6 years before he needs protecting. Correct. I think people get caught up in a player's age a bit too much. Only the Hall Of Famers come up at 18-22. As long as a guy is under say 32 years old, he still has a chance to be a fantastic player. Just look how the game suddenly clicked for Paulie at age 33-34. There are so many factors out there like what if a guy spends his off time drinking alcohol. That's going to directly affect his performance in a negative way. What if he still stays up past midnight every night or eats only fried foods and meats? There's a whole bunch of growing up that takes place between the ages of 18-early thirties. I believe the game can click at any time, any league, any age. 26 yr olds are not writeoffs anymore. They arent even men yet. Shoemaker and even Hankerd could still end up being MLB Allstars.