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We need to go for it this year, and this isn't a big enough move IMO. Now we have a hole in the infield that we didn't have yesterday, with nothing really gained, except for a lower ERA for Buehrle

QUOTE (G&T @ Nov 5, 2009 -> 10:25 AM) Available for what? I 2nd this motion.

Didn't Teahen have a good year when he played 3B everyday? Seems it's been downhill for him ever since they gave Gordon his position, bouncing him all around the field. Am I remembering this right? I like our Gordon at 3B, period. I just don't get it; why are we adding 4+ million for Teahen when he doesn't have an everyday position here. We need a press conference.

QUOTE (winninguglyin83 @ Nov 5, 2009 -> 09:43 AM) I just don't see Teahen having the bat to play a top level third base or RF. No kidding. This guy strikes out a WHOLE BUNCH too, with few walks. Where the f*** is he gonna play??

Danks should have no impact on this offseason. Like someone said above, counting on Jordan for anything is a recipe for disaster. Just too many unknowns with this guy. I think the proper play is to trade for a stud RBI outfielder and sign Pods. Pods/CQ/Rios/new guy can rotate outfield and DH. Let Jordan get his cup of coffee this September, and in 2011 slide CQ to DH permanently. We'll be in the same predicament next offseason, but maybe Danks will have proven enough to earn the 3rd outfield spot next to Rios and the new guy.

Did anybody else get the impression that Getz has a noodle arm at 2B? I'm still in the Pro-Getz/Hope CJ Is Amazing category, but I don't think he is very good defensively at all.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 22, 2009 -> 05:02 PM) So let's say that he wound up getting a more reasonable contract...i.e. close to what Viciedo got or what Strasbourg got. What's our interest level then? I'd sign him for 10 million and hope 1 of the 2 pans out. I'll take the odds that 1 of them succeeds

Now or never really. He was a monster at the start of the season, and finally again at the very end. I think he's back. 4 yr 20 mil would be so awesome. I'd do 4 for 20 in a heartbeat. Anybody else? How bout 3 for 25 or 4 for 30? What's your year and pay limit? This is the MVP we are talkin about here.

Can we sign Quentin to a 3-4 yr deal right now to buy out his remaining arbitration years, just like Floyd? After a down year and based on his knack for injury, the Sox have negotiating strength and might be able to lock him up on the cheap. I believe he is fine now and will be a monster next year. So can we do it, would you do it, etc..

QUOTE (DBAHO @ Oct 11, 2009 -> 12:21 AM) Hunter Pence from the Stros. Nice one

QUOTE (bschmaranz @ Oct 10, 2009 -> 10:23 PM) Ethier and Kemp, really? What could we possibly have to move for them? Those guys are all-stars in their mid 20s, their version of Carlos Quentin except not injury prone and better defensively. I dunno man; how do you trade for Jake Peavy? Pretty much anybody but Pujols is available.

Hermida is more intriguing than Hart, but neither seems disciplined enough at the plate. Does Hermida have some serious beakout potential, being only 25, because I know nothing about him. I want better.

QUOTE (bmags @ Oct 10, 2009 -> 01:24 PM) If you are placing more importance on exclusively next year why do you care if the players are young and cheap? Youger players typically play way better defense. Part of me would LOVE Milton Bradley to play here. He would eat up playing for this side of town. But I don't know if his defense is what I want rotating out there.

I think I place more importance in going for it all next year than the majority of you. If Freddy Garcia turns into an absolute steal then next year IS THE YEAR. Best rotation, our infield is set, our bullpen needs a piece, and our outfield needs 1 major piece that can also play great defense. Sign Pods too and Kotsay too.

Forget Abreu and Figgins. IMO they would only be transitory filler parts, not long term solutions. The purpose of this thread is to talk about young guys entering their primes who aren't usually discussed as available; kinda like Swisher was supposed to be had he not busted with us. If KW isn't going to sign a FA OF, then he has to trade for one. Here are a couple off the top of my head, and if you help me list them all, then we will more than likely discuss the guy KW eventually gets this offseason. Kemp Ethier Coughlan etc

If Abreu is happy in Anaheim then so be it. I prefer a younger more athletic outfielder anyway similar to Danks2 but MLB proven. All we need to do is make one big trade for this type of player, sign Pods, and we are good to go. We need to find this outfielder.

QUOTE (SoxFan562004 @ Oct 9, 2009 -> 11:28 PM) he had a great year, but his history shows we can't count on a duplicate, a solid one year deal I have zero problem with, anything beyond that is a mistake IMO. I think they should wait until the FA hit the market, let's see what Matsui, Damon, etc.. are asking for before we ink pods Pods put up great stats. I think he is by far our best hitter; seems like that dude just knows how to take what the pitcher gives him and get a hit. No? Beckham and AJ seem to have this ability as well.

This sounds like insurance in case Rios tanks hard. Maybe Abreu, Pods, CQ, and Rios rotating OF/DH duties? I am all for this if it is indeed Abreu or somebody better; nobody worse than Abreu though is key for me.

QUOTE (kitekrazy @ Oct 8, 2009 -> 10:11 AM) Maybe J.R. needs to take a chance and go a little over the mystery budget everyone seems to know about. This is by far the best post in this thread. I love how it got no responses because it insulted the masses. I'm with you on this one dude. This pitching staff is too special to not spend 100 Million. If we overspend and field the correct team, the attendence spike when we start 35-10 will surely pay for these players. And it starts with Bobby in the back.

QUOTE (DaveBrown85 @ Oct 3, 2009 -> 03:04 PM) Just because someone is fat doesnt mean they dont take care of their body. Now that's comedy 101. We don't need Prince Fielder, we need an athletic OF with plus offense

Sure does seem like alot. We already have an expensive fatboy who has back issues only because of fatness. Why do we need another guy who has zero respect for his own body. It's risky trading for someone out of shape, and I think that factor would have to WEIGH into the deal. I'm funny but also serious.

Yea our infield is definitely set. Getz is our starter while Nix is a great bench piece. I want Flowers and Kotsay back on the bench too. I think Flowers has learned all he can in the minors; would benefit much more under AJs tutelage.

I like the financial flexibility angle you're going with here. I agree with all of it, but how do we know we cannot afford him? Maybe Jerry opens his pockets this winter in order to go for it. This pitching staff is as good and as safe a bet as any this team has probably ever had. We need Bobby in that bullpen. Out of curiosity, where did you get the 7 million number? Could it be less based on his shaky performance this year, maybe round 4 mil?

QUOTE (Kalapse @ Oct 1, 2009 -> 08:29 PM) We don't have the bullets anyway. I agree. Seems like it would take all the bullets. We do need to go for it starting this year though, and to make me happy, all we need is a super stud outfielder and a bullpen piece. Super stud. I really want that Coughlan guy from Florida, based solely on ESPNs stats.

Why does everybody wanna give up on fatboy so fast? Dude has been nothing short of phenomenal since his arrival. He seemed a little shaky this year, but let's give him another look see. We almost have to since his stock is the lowest it has been since we snagged him up. Our bullpen becomes awful if we get rid of him. In the 9th inning of a 1 run, pressure packed situation, I still trust Bobby more than Matt; although the margin between the two is slimming (hopefully like fatboy this offseason).