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Tim is probably a better catcher than Schwarber.

What are you basing his ability to throw on? Just curious, because i know the first couple years he “played outfield” full time, especially the first one, teams were trying to take extra bases on him like crazy because they looked at him playing outfield as an insult to outfielders everywhere. So he had a bunch of assists and whatnot because teams were trying to take bases they normally wouldn’t. It was pure disrespect across the board, so yea, he had inflated assist numbers. credit to him for working hard and not being the worst defensive player in the history of the game, but I’m pretty sure he’s just about as bad as it can get out there.

I think so too. I think all the people writing off the Kimbrel option pickup are going to be super surprised with the quality of return he brings. This isnt a bad contract for bad contract situation.

What if you want to push hard for a championship though? Rodon is a HUGE risk from my armchair. Lot of money for non-guaranteed innings

Yes or just simply need more certainty in a championship window. They want a championship

I guess I don’t understand the angst with allocating a big chunk of money to the pen. Most of our really good players are around pre-arb or locked up on pretty good deals. If $190M is true, Tommy likey

Possible but there’s HUGE upward pressure in wages right now. Does that spill over into a tiny economy like MLB? I’d think so since they purchase the same stuff the rest of us do. Plus yachts

I want to believe too

The more I watch the game evolve the less I think OF defense matters, especially when you have someone like Robert in CF. Go for the big crooked numbers for 7 innings and put Engel in for the rookies to close it out. So I guess today I’m leaning towards spending the money on pitching and power at 2B

But it seems like they didn’t want him to say yes to the QO so they didn’t make it. What am I missing here?

I think it’s an amazing success too and Carlos was a huge part of the Sox running away with the division by the ASB. The guy didn’t pitch in the 2nd half though. I thought they were just limiting his innings too, but now I’m not so sure. Maybe that shoulder was barking like crazy. I don’t know how to know. Maybe they could send Keuchel and Burger to a team like Texas and then sign Rodon? I’d actually like that. Los was the man this year while he had it. Unstoppable force.

Agree. I think all this means is they have some better plans for that 18M. Maybe Carlos accepting wouldn’t have been the worst thing but it would have prevented whatever option A is.

Me too. Right now I think it’s #2 because of #1, which IMO is a good thing for us fans. It means the FO wants more of a sure bet because it’s World Series or bust from here on out. #3 sucks. Please god don’t be 3.

Lol. I get it. I get it. Lot of assumptions going around today though. Whole bunch

I dunno. I kinda see super-talented, proven-horse old guys as exactly the kind of market the Sox would prefer to shop at. Short-term.

Yes there’s no actual evidence that this is going to be a bad offseason based on anything so far. It’s just the general gut feeling from decades of fandom percolating to the surface for most I’m sure.

Beyond obvious.

Cmon you gotta be tired of typing this stuff. You just gotta be

Agree. I wonder if they sign one of the expensive middle infield guys to lock up 2B for the next 3-5 years and just roll with Sheets/Vaughn/Engel/Eloy as the corners and DH.

Totally man. Why did they all get shelled? Why did they all look so gassed? Cheating? I hate this excuse. It’s lazy. Nerves? Yea maybe? The extra rest? Ok but this feels lazy too. I really felt like the Sox had by far the most dominant pitching entering the playoffs. I was expecting 6-8IP gems with dicey 8th innings. Yea Carlos was a wildcard but we had Kopech, Lopez etc to cover if need be. The World Series is filled with straight-nobody pitchers right now. I still don’t get why we didn’t steamroll this.

I don’t think it was that simple. This completely ignores the concept of health. So the pitching staff completely shit itself because they didn’t go all-out down the stretch? Maybe so, but like most things, it’s complete speculation even with the benefit of hindsight.

Lol yea. I always love the trade proposals that equal: ”Let’s dick the guy that just said he wants to be here and signed a friendly extension”. Players probably just love that. It’s only their lives, who cares? ?

Agreed. I don’t remember a ball getting by him but I didn’t watch much of the second half

It was really really hard to watch the whole pitching staff piss the shit out of itself. Houston’s lineup is really good, but I was still expecting way more dominant stretches. FO has some work to do no doubt.

I think it was Keats. “Proper Nouns To Infinity” by Keats