WHarris1

QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Dec 11, 2005 -> 04:46 PM) The QB made of glass with less career TDs than Ryan Fitzpatrick is our savior! No he's not the guy with the worst QB rating in the NFL and worse career numbers than Rex is!

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Dec 11, 2005 -> 04:45 PM) I'm simply saying that a bunch of you are totally impatient and just go on your emotions and thats pointless. Orton or Grossman won't make a difference this year. We will go as far as our defense and rushing game carries us. We won't win a game all year based on our QB play. We will lose games based on our QB play (if they turn the ball over). We are a ball control offense that should get short fields. I'd like to see us better take advantage of the short fields. Anything more is an unrealistic expectation of this current team. We have zero 2nd receivers (that have ever proven anything in the NFL), no TE, and a rookie QB. I've long said if we had a premier QB we'd be a super bowl team (no doubt in my mind), but we don't have Carson Palmer or Peyton or even Farve. Rex isn't one either and at this stage in the game thats what it would take, imo. We will fall short, but I stick by my thoughts that we will win one playoff game and this will be a key building year towards our super bowl run next year (or the following year). We are basically on the same page I am just saying...why not give Rex a shot when our passing games has already hit complete rock bottom? You say Orton doesn't turn the ball over, and that is true. THe only problem I have is that he doesn't make ANY plays. He will hit a wide ass open receiver, as a 3rd stringer could. But other than that he doesn't make tough throws. For example today, 3rd & goal from the 13 he had a man in the endzone and missed him, that kinda thing costs a team 4 points.

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Dec 11, 2005 -> 04:40 PM) I'm going to say that anyone that points at this game as the reason why Orton should be benched as being an idiot with zero football sense. No one is saying that. This was actually a good game for Orton's standards... Fact of the matter is Orton is doing nothing for our offense. Why not see what Rex can do behind this new offensive line and with Moose as his #1 option? You can say Rex has never done anything in the past but look what he had around him, honestly... Right now games are being won in spite of Kyle Orton providing next to nothing, why not give Rex a shot? You shouldn't be able to lose a job becuase of injury as it is.

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Dec 11, 2005 -> 04:39 PM) LOL, maybe in a year. You guys are blind and somehow think Rex is going to turn this into a 25 point per game offense. Yeah it's not like we have an elite WR, a 1000 yard rusher or a more than solid offensive line or anything... What point are you trying to make by saying you were right this team wasn't bad? I was here all offseason defnding this team tirelessly.

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Dec 11, 2005 -> 04:31 PM) By the way, I think all of you taht are whining and complaining are pointing the finger at the wrong guy. Point the finger at the defense cause thats who deserves the blame. If they don't play there game, we don't win. Its just like saying if Jake Plummer doesn't force balls the Bronco's will likely win. Every team has a thing they do well (at least good teams) and if they do that thing well, they will more likely than not win the game. If the Bears play strong defense, we should win. Ok so if the defense has a bad game it's just ok for the offense to f***ing blow? Interesting. You cannot possibly expect this defense to hold teams under 10 week in a week out when they are on the field over 30 minutes every f***in game. That's just insane.

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Dec 11, 2005 -> 04:27 PM) Now if Orton threw 4 picks I'd say something different, but the defense was the ones that played like total s***. The offense wasn't grand, but it doesn't have the players to be grand. Actually minus Orton the players on this offense have the makings of a good offense.

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Dec 11, 2005 -> 04:25 PM) Umm, they gave up 21 and were dominate the entire game. Points aren't the only sign. The Bears got clocked and if the weather was better and they weren't just closing the game out by stalling, they could have scored more. Offensively we had no chance at winning this game. You all are idiots to think that we can win a shootout, we can't. Not with Orton, not with Grossman. Unless we have Peyton or Farve or another top QB we aren't going to do that. Were not built around that. Thats like asking a Hummer to win the Indy 500, it won't happen. A hummer could win some off-road challenge though. We need to play our game and when our defense isn't doing is job we have no chance. Plain and simple and there is nothing the Bears can do about that. It doens't have the personel to be a high scoring offense and it won't win high scoring games (unless the defense is getting us field position and the offense takes advtange of the short field). So just becuase we aren't able to win shootouts it's acceptable for Orton to throw under 50%? It's acceptable for to consider 200 yards a great game? The Bears scored NINE points today, it doesn't matter how the defense plays they can't overcome an offense that inept. And who the f*** said we could win a shootout in the first place?

The Bears defense gave up 21 WHOLE POINTS OMGWTF?!?! Sure the defense played bad but 21 points is not somethign that cannot be overcome by an even mediocre defense. Orton completed under 50% of his thros and a lot of his yards were in "garbage time"

It's Rex time please

We were f***ed as soon as we for some reason threw from the 3 yard line on 2nd down with a chance to tie.

QUOTE(aboz56 @ Dec 11, 2005 -> 07:50 AM) It was pretty damn funny yesterday at the game there was this IU fan I was talking to about the Big 10. So I say I think the order will go in the Big 10: 1) MSU, 2) ILL, 3) IU. He says, have you ever been to a game at Illinois? I say no. He says, well I have a few friends there who talked all of this crap last year when they had that good team so I finally gave in and went to a game there (pauses for a second) It's funny going there because you look up in the rafters and all they have is a final four banner from 1987 or whenever it was, then the rest is cobwebs. Just a random question; why does every single IU fan play the history card?

QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Dec 11, 2005 -> 09:53 AM) Basically you can just read the snb predictions and get a good laugh. Haha yeah... QUOTE(SnB @ Aug 6, 2005 -> 08:51 AM) look for illinois to have a decent year, maybe even in a bowl hunt. QUOTE(SnB @ Aug 6, 2005 -> 03:51 PM) look out for purdue as a darkhouse in the big 10

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Dec 11, 2005 -> 12:17 AM) I'd imagine the Pacers would probably want Luol Deng as a part of a package. Eh they can screw off if that's the case.

We will take him back with open arms.

ILLINI! Awesome awesome win. 10-0

Stunning come from behind win

QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Dec 10, 2005 -> 07:58 PM) Someone wanna teach this group of f***s how to win?

Someone wanna teach this group of f***s how to win?

This team is just unbelieveably frustrating to watch.

They are cruising to victory in our house with Kobe on the bench.

GIVE HIM AN OSCAR!

The most Pippen ever made on the title winning teams was $3,425,000

"There Goes My Hero" f***in' amaizng song in this type of situation.

Hahaha the crowd boo's Stern

God Kobe looks so queer with those f***ing spandex