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Here's an article about how Steve Young sees the Cutler/Trestman duo working out: http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago/bears/post...a-qb-specialist
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QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Jan 14, 2013 -> 11:39 PM) Having an open mind could be good or bad. My worry about Emery comes from the fact he was hired by the Bears front office which has consistently proven to be bad. Yes unfortunately trusting the McCaskey's and dips*** Ted Phillips is nearly impossible. I just so badly hope for and want Emery to be the guy. I like a lot of his qualities like his apparent diligence and attention to detail, but his reign will ultimately be judged in large part by this hire. So here's to hoping that he really is a bright guy whose wide ranging, "no stone unturned" coaching search will lead to a home run of a hire.
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QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Jan 14, 2013 -> 11:31 PM) The argument was against Jake for saying that "Emery knows exactly what he wants". I dont care if he goes into the final interview with a DC, OC, ST, a NCAA HC etc. That isnt what I am saying. I am saying that Emery does not know exactly what he wants. I am not sure why you are even arguing, because you are now saying that "openness could be an asset." Well of course it could be, I never said it couldnt. I very specifically was saying that based on the interview process there is no way to logically conclude Emery knows exactly what he wants. No one is even arguing against that. I am not saying which interview process is better. It depends on the person. Which is why I used 2 examples of buying a car, because both examples are fine, but there is no way you can argue that in one of them I knew exactly what I wanted. I see, I took your post to imply that "not knowing exactly what you want" is a detriment to the GM and the coaching search. No harm intended. I agree entirely that this coaching search has revealed that Emery does not know what he wants as an end game, I was just defending that that might not be a bad approach to the process. EDIT: and obviously none of the teams searching for a head coach this season are franchises worth emulation it was just an example that many organizations enter the process casting a wide net.
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QUOTE (Jake @ Jan 14, 2013 -> 11:24 PM) I don't think Emery goes into the interview looking for a guy who says we should become 2-1 pass or 2-1 run or whatever. As he said in his PC, he isn't there to prescribe a coaching philosophy to anyone. The "winner" of this interview process is the one who can convince him that HE can win with the Bears both now and onward, indefinitely. There is a particular kind of personality or kinds of personalities he wants and he talked about some of those things in that press conference. I'd say the quality of the argument is as important as to the substance of it -- you don't have to run a 4-3, but you must give me a satisfactory explanation (using the reasoning that appeals to my football sense) as to why you would do things differently. Exactly. Maybe it's not such a bad thing that Emery isn't out there thinking he knows exactly what the best formula for offensive success is, couldn't his openness to ideas be an asset in the end? Another example, speaking of Trestman in particular, he was the runner up for the Indianpolis job a year ago that ended up going to Chuck Pagano - a defensive mind.
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QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Jan 14, 2013 -> 11:17 PM) No they were sure what type of coach they wanted, Chip Kelly. If I want a specific product and I go to the store and its sold out, then I have to make another choice. Especially in this scenario when there is no other Chip Kelly because they wanted a certain person for his unique skills. Its like saying that I wanted to hire Phil Jackson, but once I couldnt hire him I went in a completely different direction. Of course that makes sense, because I want the individual for their uniqueness. I would consider Trestman to be a pretty unique coach, certainly not unique in caliber but unique in a number of ways. Certainly if they are interested in having him as one of their finalists each of the other finalists are not going to be very similar to this individual. All three finalists are offensive coordinator types, despite their dissimilarity. And even removing Chip Kelly from the equation the candidates the Eagles have pursued since Kelly have a very wide range in style and philosophy. EDIT: the net they have cast outside of Kelly is similarly wide as the Bears.
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QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Jan 14, 2013 -> 11:12 PM) No that makes perfect sense. Chip Kelly was Eagles dream coach. They went crazy for him. After they couldnt get their first choice, they had to reassess. Who did the Bears go crazy for? If Emery went after "his guy" and didnt land him, Id completely understand why hes unsure now. But they clearly aren't sure about "what type" of coach they then want if their candidates now are dissimilar from Chip Kelly?
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It seems pretty common for teams to interview HC candidates whose philosophies vary, no? The Eagles interviewed Chip Kelly and Lovie Smith, couldn't be much more different. They went balls to the wall for Kelly and are not conducting a second round with a defensive coordinator from Seattle.
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QUOTE (ptatc @ Jan 14, 2013 -> 09:53 PM) The way Emery is going about this coaching search, he probably wanted to evaluate Lovie for a year before deciding on keeping him or not. He seems to be a detailed person not impulsive, kind of like Hahn is appearing to be. That may be the case but at the same time doesn't make it smart for the ownership to say "you can't pick a new coach". Perhaps Emery would have chosen that anyway, but it shouldn't have been a mandate.
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QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Jan 14, 2013 -> 09:49 PM) I also would agree with this. If you are going to hire a new gm, you might as well get rid of the coach too. Whether or not they chose Fischer, it would have been much smarter to do them both at the same time. 1 year of transition instead of 2. (edit) Unless the new GM is on the same page as the coach and wants him. But not if hes going to fire him the next year. Which is why it's f***ing dumb that Emery didn't even have the ability to fire Lovie when he was brought in.
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Kirk Hinrich with his second consecutive 1 point outing!!!
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QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Jan 14, 2013 -> 08:48 PM) Id be okay with that, but I still think its a step down from Lovie Smith as HC, Trestman as OC and Marinelli as DC. Especially as its a veteran team and they all responded to Lovie. I would need to know more about the previous OC hiring decisions, and how much was Emery/Angelo, and how much was Lovie. I agree about the point of how the veterans responded to Lovie. One positive for Trestman is from everything I've seen he carries a similar demeanor/philosophy. More of a teacher, quiet, respected type which would probably bode well for our roster. Who knows. Granted most people complain about Lovie's demeanor so I meant "positive" in the sense of what our players are used to and comfortable with. All in all I'm not disappointed by the list of finalists, considering I fully expected no previous head coaches to be interviewed. JasonLaCanfora: Hearing that Marc Trestman spent Sun and part of Mon in Chicago, for 2nd interview. Also hear Bruce Arians under heavy consideration there
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QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Jan 14, 2013 -> 08:43 PM) No I think the masses would be more than okay with Testman as an OC where his entire job is helping Cutler and getting the offense to work. But if Trestman is the HC, he is going to have to work with both sides of the ball, so he cant put as much time and effort into the offense. For example, if the Bears kept Lovie and hired Trestman, I think many people would have read these comments with great enthusiasm. If Lovie doesn't get a job and he can keep Rod on board, which many have suggested is a strong possibility (Rod staying), then I think it will be a successful coaching staff. EDIT: However, I still like Arians most of the remaining candidates.
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“The way he relates to the quarterback,” Gannon said when asked what makes Trestman unique. “Every quarterback who has played for him has gotten better. “If you ask me if there’s one thing Chicago needs, it’s someone to get Jay Cutler back on track. If you look at [Cutler’s] footwork and ballhandling, he has major issues. Some fundamental things have slipped by the wayside because he hasn’t been coached properly. Marc could come in there and get him straightened out.” The guy had success with Jake freakin Plummer (for a year), was the QB coach & OC for Rich Gannon's MVP season. He's certainly no sure thing but I feel like hes getting way less of a chance from the masses due to the fact that hes currently in the CFL.
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Russell Lande @RUSSLANDE GM Jr. Scouting, The Big Ten Network & The National Football Post. Former college scout for Cleveland Browns & scouting administrator for the St. Louis Rams. Russell Lande @RUSSLANDE @BHugh215 - As I have gotten to know Coach Trestman I have been impressed by his knowledge of the game, creativity and leadership. Russell Lande @RUSSLANDE @ChrisHansenNFL - Trestman is an excellent football coach and an even better person with real character, passion and love of the game. Russell Lande @RUSSLANDE @AdamSchefter - Do not know Bevell to comment, but Trestman would be an outstanding hire by Bears & would turn J. Cutler into a Superstar. Greg A. Bedard @GregABedard Boston Globe NFL Writer @mikecwright Trestman is a terrific coach. Organized, smart, sought out by NFL coaches for offensive strategy.
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2012-2013 NCAA Basketball thread
WHarris1 replied to He_Gawn's topic in A and J's Olde Tyme Sports Pub
Vandy on a monster run to tie Kentucky late in the 2nd half, actually had the lead at one point. Also, Vandy is 345th in the nation in FT%, out of 347. Jesus. -
I had an extremely vivid dream last night that D Rose came back and scored like 50 points. Waking up was a bummer.
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2012-2013 NCAA Basketball thread
WHarris1 replied to He_Gawn's topic in A and J's Olde Tyme Sports Pub
Paul has been reeling off some extremely mediocre efforts since his hot start. Not surprising. Looks like he wasnt so much a changed player but a mere hot streak. Griffey just nearly broke the f***ing rim with that clanger. -
2012-2013 NCAA Basketball thread
WHarris1 replied to He_Gawn's topic in A and J's Olde Tyme Sports Pub
I could provide what Tyler Griffey provides...and I pay for school -
2012-2013 NCAA Basketball thread
WHarris1 replied to He_Gawn's topic in A and J's Olde Tyme Sports Pub
Embarrassing shot selection and piss poor transition defense is a sure fire losing combination. Pathetic effort at home. Stop shooting so many bad f***ing shots you dips***s, especially you f***ing seniors. -
2012-2013 NCAA Basketball thread
WHarris1 replied to He_Gawn's topic in A and J's Olde Tyme Sports Pub
Learn shot selection you stupid mother f***ers. -
2012-2013 NCAA Basketball thread
WHarris1 replied to He_Gawn's topic in A and J's Olde Tyme Sports Pub
DJ Richardson literally can't help himself from shooting every awful 3 he sees, even though he sucks at shooting. -
2012-2013 NCAA Basketball thread
WHarris1 replied to He_Gawn's topic in A and J's Olde Tyme Sports Pub
Down 2 with the ball...turnover, bucket, turnover, clear path foul. Doh. -
2012-2013 NCAA Basketball thread
WHarris1 replied to He_Gawn's topic in A and J's Olde Tyme Sports Pub
Thank you for attacking the rim Tracy instead of allowing the rest of these idiots to heave one incredibly low percentage shot after another -
2012-2013 NCAA Basketball thread
WHarris1 replied to He_Gawn's topic in A and J's Olde Tyme Sports Pub
You know you're going down when a guy makes a half court shot off glass -
2012-2013 NCAA Basketball thread
WHarris1 replied to He_Gawn's topic in A and J's Olde Tyme Sports Pub
No basketball team in history launches more stupid f***ing jumpers with WIDE OPEN driving lanes