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QUOTE(Steff @ Sep 13, 2006 -> 04:23 AM) Just looking at the PH capasity for their biggest area it's in the 4K range. That's for meetings, weddings, etc, so I would guess it doesn't include the vendor space Soxfest has, and the signing and seminar areas. I wouldn't be surprised to see them cap ticket sales a bit lower than that per day. Don't the Cubs hold their convention at this place every year? I just found something that said they only sell 15,000 tickets for the weekend. That's about what Soxfest has been in past years. Although if the rooms are smaller it may be a little more cramped.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Sep 12, 2006 -> 07:53 PM) For just the two of us to go it would cost over $400 ($249+75+75+food, parking, drinks, etc). There is no way for us to go for the weekend without spending at least that $400 according to the teams release. Basically the season ticketholders are the only ones who are going to be able to afford to go, because the casual fans who used to only have to pay for weekend passes, which used to be $30 a couple/few years ago, now would be paying about 13 times that amount just to attend the whole weekend. Sucks doesn't it? I am just waiting to see how much individual day passes will end up being. I'm guessing one one-day pass is going to be somewhere around $40. $50 for Saturday. QUOTE(aboz56 @ Sep 12, 2006 -> 07:47 PM) I'm definitely out at this point unless a reasonable explanation for the price jump is given. Somebody looked on Ebay last year and saw all the weekend passes everyone was making tons of money on because they only had two people staying in the room and got 4 passes with their reservation. Guess they decided they wanted that money for themselves...

QUOTE(Steff @ Sep 12, 2006 -> 04:27 PM) No. You will be required to buy a weekend HOTEL package. The capasity is roughly 1/5th of what it was at the Hyatt. Are you serious? Normal attendance at the Hyatt (exlcuding 2005) was about 10,000-12000 people throughout the weekend. Are you saying there's only going to be a few hundred tickets sold for each day?

Soxfest I guess this is the new crowd control. Doesn't look like I'll be going this year.

QUOTE(Steff @ Sep 12, 2006 -> 11:20 AM) Also IWC.. if a car falls from the sky and you hit it.. you have failed to yield. It's a stupid law for situations like the one that happened to you. I'm pretty sure that's where the truck I hit came from. I looked and did not see anyone in front of me. I didn't even see him on the side street where he came from. I looked away for a few seconds, look up again and BAM.

QUOTE(Texsox @ Sep 12, 2006 -> 10:46 AM) They may have swerved hard to try and miss the truck. Any number of reasons could come into play. They may have just trusted the driver was going to stop. Not specific to this but think about all the distractions we have placed in cars today. I've seen people sending text messages on their phones. OK, I've done that, and will stop. I will bet that everyone here has been distracted to the point of not being able to see a semi in their path. I'm certainly not blaming the teenagers in the car. It was mostly the truck driver's fault for pulling out in front of them in the first place. I just wonder if the accident could've been avoided at all if they had noticed the truck there in the first place. I had the same sort of thing happen to me. A pickup pulled out in front of me from a side street and STOPPED because he wanted to make a left hand turn. I might have been able to avoid him but 1) the posted speed limit was 55 MPH and 2) I was changing the CD in my radio. Of course I totaled my car AND got the ticket for "failing to yield".

If they struck the trailer of the truck and not the cab, then the driver of the car was either going pretty damn fast, or just did not see a huge truck in front of him in time to stop. Or possibly wet pavment played a factor with all the rain lately? The truck driver had to have been halfway across the intersection when the accident occured.

Anyone think they'll actually get the game in today? It's been raining all day and doesn't look to let up anytime soon. How soon would they call it? I have a long way to travel to go the game and hate to have to turn around and come right back home.

At some point in time when we found out we were having our third girl we realized that our names went J,K,M,N. We had to pick a name that started with L to connect them. Nobody ever realizes it unless we mention it. Did anyone see that show on Discovery (or TLC?) about that couple that had 16 kids and ALL their names started with J?

I got to drive through some of it coming home from camping. There was just enough of a break in the weather for us to get packed up and head home. Then we got home just in time to hear the sirens go off for the tornado warning.

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Aug 29, 2006 -> 04:00 PM) The sentence: "The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog" uses every letter of the alphabet. QUOTE(Rex Hudler @ Aug 30, 2006 -> 08:26 PM) You must be old enough to have taken typing class The first time I learned that fact was while reading a story by Stephen King. Some pointless Stephen King facts: His first published novel was Carrie. He wrote the first book in his 7-book Dark Tower series in 1982. The last one came out 22 years later in 2004. *spoiler alert below* The first line of the first book and the last line of the last book are the same: "The man in black fled across the desert and the gunslinger followed."

QUOTE(Steff @ Aug 30, 2006 -> 06:23 PM) Calc was not a standard class when I was in HS. Is it now? Anything beyond algebra 1 and geom were not required. I had to apply to Calc and Trig and it was only for honor students. I did not have an actual accounting class until I got to college. Calc and Trig were only "required" for me because there weren't any other classes that interested me and I had to get my credits somehow. IIRC, by the time I was a senior in HS I had 2 classes that were actually required. Gym and Government. The rest were electives. QUOTE(bmags @ Aug 30, 2006 -> 06:18 PM) accounting formulas are usually taught in stat and calc classes anyways. Never took a stats class. If they were taught in calc I don't remember them.

Am I the only one that never had to take a single art or music class after 6th grade? I took shop, drafting, Spanish, computer and business classes as my electives. Everything else was filled in by the basic stuff that everyone had to take. Math, science, english, gym, etc... About dress codes, there are many companies out there that have some of the most satisfied employees simply because they don't have have a dress code or even a set schedule. There are even some places that have rec rooms in the building for the employees with video games and basketball courts. Some allow them to bring their pets to work with them. My company has a fairly loose dress code, any shirt with a collar and dress pants. I set in the basement in a cubicle and nobody ever sees me. I'm pretty sure if I came in wearing jeans and a t-shirt (which is allowed on Friday) I'd get the exact same amount of work done... QUOTE(BobDylan @ Aug 30, 2006 -> 03:27 PM) Why shouldn't I be forced to take an accounting class? I have to learn how to do my taxes, don't I? Actually no, not really. That's what TurboTax is for. I've never taken an accounting class in my life. To tell you the truth, a good 80% of the classes I've taken in high school and even college I've never used and probaby never will. 3 years of Spanish and I barely remember any of it. Haven't figured out a good use for the Trig or algebra classes I took. I took electricity 1 & 2 but the most I've ever done is change an outlet or two in my house...

QUOTE(Brian @ Aug 29, 2006 -> 01:29 PM) It may just be my mind frame, but I don't understand why some people are content with not working out or taking care of themselves. I'm FAR from the perfect looking human, but I maintain my weight and stay active. Two big reasons: 1. time 2. money I don't have enough of either.

QUOTE(Steff @ Aug 29, 2006 -> 01:23 PM) _Employers should offer their workers benefits that help them stay healthy, such as nutrition counseling and subsidized health club memberships. My company does this. The only problem is that I already drive an hour south to get to work. The gym they offer free membership to is another 15 minutes south. Not even considering the cost of gas, I wouldn't make it home until 7 PM or later. Yet they don't have anything to do with the YMCA that is 5 minutes away from my house... QUOTE(Steff @ Aug 29, 2006 -> 01:23 PM) _At the local level, governments should approve zoning and land use laws that give people more chances to walk or bike to the store or to work. Local governments also should set aside more funding for sidewalks. I agree with this. Half of my neighborhood doesn't even have sidewalks. Just a gravel shoulder and a small drainage ditch.

QUOTE(Steff @ Aug 29, 2006 -> 12:24 PM) Why would the doors INTO the classrooms being locked be a fire hazard? I guess it depends on what type of lock it is. If it's one where you can just turn in by hand from the inside, then it's probably not a big deal. But if it's one that requires a key on both sides, then that might be a problem. Obviously if it's still being done in schools, it's not a problem. I guess I was thinking back to the movie "Lean On Me" (which is based on a true story) where the principal put chains and padlocks on all the doors leading outside. IIRC, he had to take them down because it was a fire hazard. Different scenario I guess...

QUOTE(DrunkBomber @ Aug 29, 2006 -> 12:13 AM) Dont they eat dogs on China? I believe that's Koreans.

QUOTE(EvilMonkey @ Aug 29, 2006 -> 08:23 AM) Up until i moved last year, my boys had to wear 'uniforms' at the grade schools. Black or dark blue pants/shorts for boys, along with light blue polos, dress shirts or plain t-shirts. Pretty cheap to buy, even if they are wearing them 'only' 6 or 7 hours a day. You buy 5 or 6 polos for about $15 each, a few pairs of the pants, and actually do a load of laundry during the week, you are set for about $100. if you took your kid out shopping for the school clothes they wanted to wear, you would be lucky if the price tag was still 3 figures. Clothes for uniforms serve one purpose only: school clothes. Regular clothes serve multiple purposes. School clothes, play clothes, going out to eat clothes, going to the store clothes, lounging around on the weekend clothes...

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Aug 29, 2006 -> 07:06 AM) MCHS actually has the sweep policy as well. They just started it last year, along with the reduced number of tardy's. They also have it to where so many tardys equal an absence, and so many absenses equal an automatic failure of that grading period, although according to my wife, I don't believe she ever had a kid fail for attendance, who wasn't going to fail for grades anyway. I know somebody that missed 56 days his senior year. He passed all his classes with A's and B's. The very next year they implemented a rule that if you missed more than X amount of days in a given semester (like 10 or 15, I don't remember the exact number), you automatically failed that semester. We "unofficially" named the rule after him. QUOTE(LowerCaseRepublican @ Aug 29, 2006 -> 06:28 AM) The locked door thing is actually the policy at the junior high I'm at. Students get 3 minute passing periods. When the bell rings, all the doors get shut and then staff "sweeps" the halls where they get the late students with passes and then let them into the room. Students get a detention for the first two tardies and then harsher punishments as it goes on. The administration should have gone with in-school suspensions. I kinda fail to see how sending them home with no supervision, TV, video games etc. is a real punishment. With an in-school suspension, they get all their work and are supervised that they spend the day doing their homework. 3 minute passing period? You must have a small school. We had 5 minutes and sometimes that was just barely enough to get to your locker and get across the school to the next class. Wouldn't having a locked door be some sort of fire hazard? Or does that just apply to the doors that lead outside?

QUOTE(SleepyWhiteSox @ Aug 28, 2006 -> 01:51 PM) Since the topic at hand deals with high school students, I still say uniforms are cheaper. You're describing two extremes, so I'll give my example: I shop at tjmaxx, marshalls, etc. with my younger brother in high school too and we never see shirts at a dollar or jeans for 2. Clothes for teenagers are pricey, even when shopping for sale and clearance prices. My brother isn't the type who wants the most expensive clothes or fads, but buying quality clothes for him to look presentable still isn't cheap. He needs far less of these clothes since his school requires a uniform. For school, he alternates between a few polos and khakis, the polos being from last year, and last year's shoes are still holding up, for now. The khakis were cheaper than any pair of jeans he has. (dockers hit the clearance racks; levis never do.) When wearing uniforms, there are no worries about keeping up with current fads or the latest expensive gym shoes. No designer jeans for alternating daily needed. You can get away with washing your shirt and wearing it more than once in a week. Brands don't matter since all the uniforms looks the same. Still the fact remains that you have to buy extra clothes that you're only going to wear about 6 or 7 hours a day. I have the same issue with my work clothes. If I were allowed to wear my "normal" clothes to work I could cut my wardrobe down quite a bit. But at least it's my choice to be at a job that requires a dress code and I get paid for it. If we had to buy uniforms for our kids on top of the clothes they wear everyday, their closets would be overstuffed. Following a simple dress code is not that difficult.

QUOTE(SleepyWhiteSox @ Aug 28, 2006 -> 01:20 PM) Uniforms are cheaper. Not where we shop. My wife is constantly finding garage sale and clearance sale stuff. We can probably fill an entire closet for under $100.

QUOTE(SleepyWhiteSox @ Aug 28, 2006 -> 12:30 PM) I'm curious as to how it was deemed what was "too baggy" and what was "appropriate." I'm kind of curious about that too. There's a very fine line between "baggy" and "loose-fitting". My jeans are a little baggy around my thighs but I still keep the waistline up where it's supposed to be. I once saw a guy denied entrance to a bar because it was wearing "baggy" jeans according to the bouncer. They looked like the same pair I was wearing. As far back as I can remember my school district has had the same basic dress code. No sleeveless shirts, no offensive language/graphics, shirts must cover your stomach and shorts/skirts must go to mid-thigh. From what I remember, nobody had a big problem with it. Every once in a while somebody had to turn their shirt inside-out for offensive language/graphics but not too often. I don't see the big deal here... QUOTE(Queen Prawn @ Aug 28, 2006 -> 11:34 AM) I am all for uniforms as it cuts down on worrying more about looking better than the next student as well as costs for the parent. Ugh. I spend enough money on my kids for school including clothes, supplies, books, activity fees, etc... The last thing I need is to spend MORE money on clothes that they'll only wear one place a few hours a day. Then they'll come home and change into their regular clothes causing even more laundry. We get a lot of their clothes of clearance racks so it's never a problem looking as good as everyone else or wearing the same namebrands. As long as it's clean and hole-free, we're happy.

QUOTE(AssHatSoxFan @ Aug 24, 2006 -> 10:21 AM) sara lee owns hanes which makes underwear and they dont make cookies themselves more along the lines of cheescakes, pies, breads, bagels...i worked at a sara lee outlet store so i know too much about the company I never knew that Sara Lee owns Hanes. I guess that means I can't remember a time when Sara Lee didn't make underwear. Pretty weak "fact" IMHO. I just recently learned that Pillbury owns Häagen-Dazs.

I haven't seen that stuff in years. Is it even still made anymore? Huh? I thought Sara Lee made bread...

I played baseball with a guy that was probably over 6 foot around age 13. All I know is that he was always the tallest guy in the league. He finally stopped growing when he hit 7'2".