DirtySox

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Feb 21, 2011 -> 06:05 PM) This statement is quite absurd. First, Flowers would have to re-establish any value he had before teams would be interested in him as anything more than a throw-in. And to consider moving him for a player who has a rare medical disorder that could sideline him for a huge length of time or for a player who just played in rookie ball is even more ridiculous. I would say the White Sox have talent at the catching position throughout the organization. I don't think you can say they have anything resembling depth when Blanke, Phegley, and quite frankly Gonzalez too (who could still be the best catching prospect in the organization...one rough year as a 19 year old in Kannapolis isn't going to make me think that much less of him) have yet to show anything close to consistent performance yet. +1 to all this. Merkin gonna Merkin.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Feb 15, 2011 -> 07:55 PM) BP has pegged the Sox 80-82. Just to be clear, this is from BP's PECOTA projections. Not just some contributer's gut feeling. I'm sure plenty think very little of PECOTA.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Feb 14, 2011 -> 12:10 PM) Problem is...isn't the top of the Yankees farm system at the Catching position? Edit: here's a version of a Yankees prospects list where 3 of their top 4 are catchers. I'm very high on Gary Sanchez and of course Montero's bat. Romine not so much though. The Yankees farm system has some really nice pieces in it. Love Banuelos.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 31, 2011 -> 11:11 AM) I read this thread title and thought "how did the element Osmium sign a pitcher"? I thought operating system. Needs more apostrophe.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jan 28, 2011 -> 07:02 PM) If you just read Keith Law's take on the White Sox and never watched a game or read a newspaper or listened to the radio, you would think the White Sox haven't had a 50 win season in at least 20 years. I am not exaggerating. I'm tough on KW and Ozzie, but you could take the biggest pessimist on this board and compare him to Law and the Soxtalk poster would seem like Hawk Harrelson. Law doesn't have anything nice to say about the White Sox. KW must have really pissed him off when Law was working for Toronto. I don't disagree. I'm not in love with Keith Law myself but I think it's pretty evident why Dayan is omitted from the list, and it's not because the author has an axe to grind. Edit: Here is the chat excerpt I mentioned above. He clearly doesn't consider Dayan a "non-prospect."

I'm almost positive that under Law's system Dayan isn't eligible for his list. He no longer has prospect status. I believe in his prospect chat he states that Dayan is a DH that doesn't walk, but if learns some patience, look out. He also notes his impressive raw power. Methinks people are just looking for more reason to dislike Mr. Law.

Yuck.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jan 20, 2011 -> 07:28 AM) I find them very optimistic. Bill James' projections are always this way for some reason.

This thread has quickly turned hilarious.

QUOTE (sircaffey @ Jan 8, 2011 -> 12:01 PM) If this means they are going to groom Sale as a SP this year, then I'm all for it. +1

2 years?

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 8, 2011 -> 10:58 AM) Seriously? Obviously, your standard fan has no clue who Archer, Lee, Guyer or Chirinos are, but as a baseball snob and a dick I still got a chuckle out of it. Even further, I was informed multiple times by my north-side acquaintances yesterday that they had acquired Garza for Sam Fuld.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 8, 2011 -> 11:17 AM) I caught a double-header between the Barons and the Cubs AA team last year. The only guy who hit the ball harder than Brent Morel for the whole game was Robinson Chirinos. He's old for the minor leagues already so it was hard to figure out if anything was translatable, but the dude was killing the ball. Supposedly there was plenty of interest in Chirinos this offseason by more than a few teams. I wasn't aware that dude could play some IF positions as well as catch. He could be a very useful piece.

QUOTE (chw42 @ Jan 8, 2011 -> 09:58 AM) Sam Fuld is bad. If anything, the fact that the Rays have guys like Jennings, Zobrist, and Joyce make Upton expendable. Absolutely. Fuld is nothing but a garbage throw-in. It still amuses me to see the crawl or mentions of this trade on CSN noting that the Cubs have acquired Garza for Fuld and prospects, like he's the centerpiece of the Rays return.

Isn't this old news? It says that they turned down extensions last offseason.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 7, 2011 -> 08:49 PM) Threets had Tommy John. We won't see him this year. He was also released in December.

QUOTE (Pale Sox @ Jan 5, 2011 -> 09:24 PM) Excuse or not, the Brewers are worse than anybody IMO. They had a weak system coming into the offseason, and traded (according to BA's mailbag) their top 3 prospects this offseason. They also failed to sign their first round pick from the 2010 draft.

QUOTE (Pale Sox @ Jan 5, 2011 -> 07:44 PM) Yeah, we don't pick until 45th overall, so hopefully Jerry is open to going overslot. He's done it before, but it's definitely a rarity. I imagine we'll rank ahead of the Brewers, but that's it. I like Petricka and Blanke too, as well as Trayce, Miguel Gonzalez, and Jose Martinez. I'd sell my soul for a blue chip catching prospect. Lord knows the Sox want one. They would have taken Grandal if he was available it seemed. One of Blanke, Gonzalez, Phegley, or Flowers suceeding would be nice.

Bad farm system is bad. I imagine it's between the Brewers and the White Sox for worst in baseball. The system definitely needs a player or five to breakout next season. I'm on the Blanke and Petricka train currently. I'll also continue my hoping for the Sox to go over slot to sign some falling talent in the draft, especially without a first rounder in the coming draft. Signing a costly first round talent with their Supplemental pick would be ideal. (Like the Tigers did with Castellanos last year)

The rationalization that Hudson must be an NL pitcher because he struggled in 3 AL starts is hilarious. Never mind the sterling minor league track record, solid scouting reports, and inherent major league growing pains. Keep it up.

QUOTE (chw42 @ Jan 5, 2011 -> 12:05 PM) Dan Haren didn't even yield anything close to the talent Hudson is. How the hell did Edwin Jackson? It's evident Kenny overpaid. I'm still dumbfounded that he threw in Holmberg and that no salary relief was involved at all in the deal.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 5, 2011 -> 11:49 AM) As the stubborn guy who hated that trade...can I apply the same standard to Jackson? Nope. Edwin Jackson has been the picture of consistency over his entire career. Sox win this trade.

QUOTE (Y2HH @ Jan 5, 2011 -> 11:00 AM) and at the time, nobody missed him. Many here (and at WSI) were in an uproar over the trade. Rightfully so in my opinion.

QUOTE (IamtheHBOMB @ Jan 3, 2011 -> 07:46 PM) Isn't Heyman generally known for being a mouthpiece for Boras? Yep.

Thornton irritated with Oney's Tweets: http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/mlb/news/story?id=5977705