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I don't think Frazier represents an up grade to either Bosox or Yanks. Yanks have Torreyes and Headley. Bosox have Lin/Holt/Marerro to choose from, with Devers waiting in the wings.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jul 17, 2017 -> 05:52 AM) With more teams open to selling (including Baltimore) and the fact we don't have another great closing candidate, I'm leaning against moving Kahnle unless a team makes an overwhelming offer. Focus on moving Robertson & Swarzak now, then let Kahnle build up as value as closer through the end of the year and see what he's worth in the offseason. A key part of a rebuild is leveraging the closer spot and turning semi-valuable relievers into much desired commodities. Right now, Kahnle is the only guy for that spot. I keep wondering if Swarzak can be re-signed now for 2018. No doubt, he is looking forward to free agency, but still, why not try to keep him if we are not going to get a long time difference maker for him.

In the Charlotte game, I noticed that Micah Johnson was in CF for Gwinnett. Just his 7th game this year.

Both in A Ball. Hope we get them up to AA soon.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 13, 2017 -> 06:15 AM) Jimenez, Russell, Candelario for Q, Kahnle, Swarzak, Shields (or Holland, or MiGo) AND Leury or Yolmer... Best I can come up with. Five for three. Megadeal that would shake NL Central to the core. Push the Brewers or Cards to match...? Addison Russell: Is he as good as gone from Cubs?

Rockies David Dahl starts his rehab assignment tonight.

QUOTE (peanut33tillman @ Jul 11, 2017 -> 10:58 PM) This would be underwhelming without Brinson as the headliner, especially if they had to throw in Swarzak. I think a deal with the Brewers will land them Brinson. You want Brinson. I want Brinson. Not gonna happen.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 9, 2017 -> 08:37 PM) I killed that long mean post about Hahn if anybody wants to kill the responses to it that show it. I think I finally got all the anger out of my system if it's not too late to become more reasonable. Don't let them change you or scare you, Greg. If you have an opinion, opine.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 11, 2017 -> 08:18 PM) Not for at least two years, my guess would be more like 3. 2 years in DR? (just joking)

QUOTE (Heads22 @ Jul 11, 2017 -> 07:50 PM) I'd like a nice spicy 3 way. Rick loves 3 ways. That's because he gets screwed.

QUOTE (steveno89 @ Jul 11, 2017 -> 11:33 AM) For me to be overtly disappointed the Sox would have to settle for a package significantly less than Sale/Eaton A Rutherford headlined deal from the Yankees would quality A Fisher headlined deal from the Astros A Ray headlined deal from the Brewers A McMahon headlined deal from the Rockies Essentially a deal where we accept a team's second tier guys and allow the buyer to keep the truly elite prospects off the table would be disappointing. 1. Are you that high on Corey Ray? 2. Rodgers has been on DL, but he played well in Futures Game. I imagine he is still ahead of McMahon in prospect pecking order.

Bumgarner due back for Giants after the break.. That should help.

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Jul 10, 2017 -> 10:05 AM) A prospect in the top 100, top 25 in some publications, wouldn't be mentioned (or if leeway for hyperbole, rarely mentioned, or people wouldn't be excited about him)? I do think that it's a little suspect that Tatis suddenly blows the prospect lists out of the water after 2 months in the Padres organization, after barely being mentioned in the Sox org. It also might illustrate some of the Sox gap in trading Q...they knew that Tatis was a good prospect and improving, so if they are willing to move him for the aging and mediocre (at best) Shields, why in the world wouldn't a team want to send 3 good prospects for Q? I just hope the Sox can find some of these rising prospects for themselves. He never played while a member of White Sox org.

QUOTE (Buehrlesque @ Jul 10, 2017 -> 12:57 PM) I think it's a three-team race between the Dodgers, Yankees and Rockies. The Astros are completely unrealistic and underwhelming. The Braves and Brewers will refuse to include their best prospects. And I don't see a Sox-Cubs blockbuster coming together. Rockies: Ryan McMahon has vaulted up the prospect list this year, but Rox reluctant to move him, because Arenado is FA after 2018. But they need to win now. Rily Pint has been a disappointment. They still have a good young catcher who just went back to AAA. Dahl has been out all year. Rodgers is on DL again after getting beaned. Just don't see it happening.

The Tigers think they can find some team willing to take Verlander's contract, just like the Padres found some team willing to take Shields' contract.

Southsider, you might be right. Maybe that is why he signed with White Sox. You might be wrong. Maybe he signed with White Sox for different reasons. We don't know. I didn't make my original post on this subject with the idea everyone would agree with me. No cheer leader here. In fact, I thought the opposite. Who cares? There are a few empirical facts here: 1. Luis Robert is extremely talented. 2. Sox coughed up a lot of money ($52 MMish) 3. He is 19 or so. 4. At signing, he had not played for a while. In a vacuum, I maintain that it would be best if he moved to the US.. This way he gets the team's highest level of supervision, physical workouts, coaching, nutrition, medical attention, and real game experience against other young pros of same age who are getting those same advantages. I realize injuries can happen anywhere. See Adolfo. If tax rules were so important, then give him another million, give to his favorite charity, help his mom, whatever. That should not be a deal breaker or a deal maker. The underlying fact of the matter is that if he is successful in baseball, he will make a lot of money over here, and pay a lot of taxes over here. He is not a 16 year old kid like Adolfo was when we signed him. Lots of other prospects are here in the US by age 19 working on their game and trying to get better. It is simply not the same in the DR.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 9, 2017 -> 06:12 PM) I wonder what the reaction would be if that had been the difference between signing him and not signing him? Was it?

QUOTE (maxjusttyped @ Jul 9, 2017 -> 05:04 PM) Agreed. NOT good for the game.

Thank you, Melky.

QUOTE (flavum @ Jul 9, 2017 -> 02:26 PM) Sox getting a hit today? No hitters against the White Sox on get away day should not count.

QUOTE (Quin @ Jul 8, 2017 -> 10:38 AM) What five do you rank higher? In no particular order.... Mil NYY Colo San Diego Atlanta Houston Boston 2 or 3 others are toss ups. Our top 4 teams are a collective 40 or so under .500. I know, I know this means nothing, but if they were 40 or so over .500 everyone here would be raving, including me. Our first rounders have hurt us, not counting Burger, of course.

QUOTE (Heads22 @ Jul 7, 2017 -> 08:59 PM) Tax savings. Now I remember. Tax savings. Robert signs a deal for $26 Million, Sox get another similar bill for some tax, and now the White Sox biggest concern is Robert's tax return. This tax saving concept sucked from day one. Here is what you do: 1. Pay the tax owed. 2. Move to the US. So, instead, this mega - wealthy 19 year old is hanging around the DR with money coming out of his pockets, dealing with whomever, playing once a week on some sand lot. He predictably hurts himself and goes to the local witch doctor for medical attention. He should be over here getting big league instruction, playing as often as possible, and getting better as quickly as possible. But No. We need to save taxes. What do we do to save taxes in 2018? Keep him in the DR again? Isn't this what crazy people do? Same thing over and over. What did Red Sox do when they signed Moncada to similar deal two years ago? They moved him the the US, put him on the Low A roster, and played him. Tax savings. $26 Mill is not enough. We have to save his taxes, too.

QUOTE (2005thxfrthmmrs @ Jul 7, 2017 -> 08:13 PM) Yikes.. someone with a medical background, what could a "minor injury to meniscus" entail? Ask the DR witch doctor where we will send him. $50 MM outlay and we leave the kid in DR.

Someone tell me again, why is he in the DR instead of the US at his age 19?

QUOTE (chisoxt @ Jul 7, 2017 -> 07:31 PM) Maybe it's just me, but these stats are truly mediocre other than Moncada's. I know it's early but the Adam Eaton trade looks like a dud at this point We started the year with what six or seven prospects in the top 100? We add Luis Robert during the season, and now we have only four in the top 100? I know this sounds like heresy, but this Farm System is not in Top 5.