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QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Feb 12, 2017 -> 10:56 AM) Could be after AJ Jimenez Wo is AJ?
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Teams have upped their offers in Q derby in the last week
oldsox replied to Al Lopez's Ghost's topic in Pale Hose Talk
QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 12, 2017 -> 12:58 PM) Except Benitendi and Moncada both weren't on the table in July. Were there meaningful talks last July between ChiSox/Bosox about Sale/Benitendi/Moncada? Can't remember. -
2016-17 free agency thread (NON WHITE SOX RELATED)
oldsox replied to southsider2k5's topic in The Diamond Club
QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Feb 10, 2017 -> 07:21 PM) Too bad. The rumor was he had colon cancer and had been in ill health for over a year. A lot of talk that his family will sell. $2 Billion? -
Teams have upped their offers in Q derby in the last week
oldsox replied to Al Lopez's Ghost's topic in Pale Hose Talk
What does Hahn do every day? -
Report: MLB Plans To Test Extra-Innings Rule Change In Lower Level Min
oldsox replied to Panerista's topic in Pale Hose Talk
The bigger reason for slower, longer games is longer stretches between half innings, in order to get more advertising dollars, particularly in late innings when ratings are highest. -
FG projects Sox as having 3rd biggest fall off in defense
oldsox replied to southsider2k5's topic in Pale Hose Talk
QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Feb 2, 2017 -> 08:15 PM) I mean, it's an interesting way to tank. I'll give you that. Just don't see them rushing Engel. He still has a non-zero chance of being a special player if (and it's a big one) he could ever learn to make consistent contact. Rushing Engel? This is his 5th year of pro ball, after 3 yrs of college ball. -
FG projects Sox as having 3rd biggest fall off in defense
oldsox replied to southsider2k5's topic in Pale Hose Talk
QUOTE (ptatc @ Feb 2, 2017 -> 05:28 PM) I wouldn't think it would be that drastic of a change. Cabrera will be the same. They lose with Eaton gone but improve with Tilson in CF and I would think a better CF is more valuable than a decrease in RF. If Tilson hits .175 or so, he won't be playing. Plus, we haven't seen him play out there yet. Hard to say he will be an improvement. I mean, we traded Duke for him, straight up. -
QUOTE (Soha @ Feb 2, 2017 -> 08:07 AM) They can't come out and say it, but they clearly want to tank for Beer or one of the high school phenoms scheduled for the 2018 draft, and having Quintana on the team doesn't help that cause. Clemson.
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Teams have upped their offers in Q derby in the last week
oldsox replied to Al Lopez's Ghost's topic in Pale Hose Talk
QUOTE (hi8is @ Feb 1, 2017 -> 12:06 AM) At least my divorce was finalized yesterday. Two years of court appearances to end a 4 year marriage. Talk about a nightmare. So relieved that I don't have to wear a lawyer hat anymore... it's gonna take a good couple weeks for me to sink into life without all of that nonsense. Just gotta send her some more money and pay some back taxes... then the only tie I'll have with her is our son. Good riddance - mistakes in choosing a mate aren't easily amended. : Living well is the best revenge. -
QUOTE (NCsoxfan @ Jan 31, 2017 -> 02:56 PM) Like most all prospects you mean? Whether he pans out or not is irrelevant. The point is we were trading away high upside talent even into last summer before the 180. That is frustrating. Correct. If Shields was a decent, reasonably paid pitcher, you could almost justify it. Almost. Even if Tatis, Jr. was just a so=so prospect, you could almost justify it. Almost. I don't understand how any GM anywhere could have pulled the trigger on that trade.
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Blue Jays have "discussed" Robertson
oldsox replied to YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES!'s topic in Pale Hose Talk
QUOTE (steveno89 @ Jan 30, 2017 -> 05:25 PM) After Vlad Jr., Reid Foley, Alford, Urena, Tellez their farm system drops off considerably At minimum one of those four players would have to be in a deal The three best prospects are Vlad Jr., Reid Foley and Urena, which all grade as B+ prospects Honestly, I'm not sure I see a deal getting done right now unless they wow us Robertson could be one of the better relief options at the deadline, and multiple suitors could drive up the price Yep. He is better than his 2016 stats due to those two games Robin unnecessarily put him out there and left him swinging in the wind. -
2016 was tough year for Sox rookies. Coats, Smith, Davidson, Tilson all injured immediately upon seeing action. Keep Moncada away from these guys.
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QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jan 27, 2017 -> 02:49 PM) Here are some questions from the Keith Law chat today: Mike: I did not see Reynaldo Lopez on your list. Is this because you think he is 100% a reliever or was he not eligible? KLaw: Another one I think is absolutely a reliever. Can't start with that delivery. Olivio: Keith, looks like you let your ego get the best of you once again with that Yoan ranking. Seems he's a shoe in as a top 5 prospect. Why so low on him? KLaw: Yes, it's all my ego, not a rational examination of each player's strengths and weaknesses, which I then spelled out at length for everyone to see. It's just me. Padres Fan: Fernando Tatis Jr is someone a lot of people are including on Padres Top 10 lists, but to consider him a Top 50 prospect in all of baseball is pleasantly surprising. Is this ranking based on what he's done, or what you expect him to do in 2017? KLaw: It's based in this case entirely on scouts' feedback about him specifically and the list as a whole. I have yet to see him play. Travis: What fan base usually asks the most questions on a weekly bases? KLaw: Right now it's Atlanta, although there's been a strange uptick in White Sox questions lately. KLaw is out of his mind guy: A guy with makeup issues (and hasn't pitched above High-A) is the top SP prospect over two SPs who can throw nearly as hard, have better secondary stuff - and both have seen the bigs. Well, I'm convinced. (sarcasm detector in the red) KLaw: You lost me right there at "makeup issues." You almost certainly know nothing about Kopech's makeup except the secondhand stuff you've read. I would bet good money I know more about the subject, and obviously I'm comfortable ranking him where I did even knowing that information. And hey, feel free to omit the delivery questions I had on Reyes, since they don't support your whining. Parrot: Assuming Zack Collins can't stay behind the plate, how much of a gap exists between him and Matt Thaiss? KLaw: Large. He's got way more power. And I think he's a better hitter than I credited him for being before the draft. Johnathan: I understand your ranking of Yoan Moncada; but for those that see at 70 FV prospect ranked elsewhere, how do you explain the massive drop? Is his swing and miss issues that pronounced? Does he not still project to be a 70 FV to you? KLaw: I simply don't see a 70 Future Value as a likely enough outcome. Nils: Hi Keith, thanks for the top 100 list. From what you have seen and heard of Moncada, does he have the potential to become more than average defensively at 2B? KLaw: No. I liked him better at 3B, where the explosiveness plays up and his trouble getting down on balls is less of an issue. Matt: Just to dive a little further into Reynaldo Lopez, if you don't mind. Two years ago, when he had very little experience and, presumably, the same delivery, he ranked 75th on your list. Two years later, after a breakout season in which he dominated the minors as a starter and looked at least passable in the Majors (8.59 K/9), why has he only fallen in your eyes? KLaw: He hasn't "fallen," and that's your entire problem here. He doesn't have the delivery to start, ergo, he's not on the list. He even had a big split between starting and relief work in the majors (small samples for both, though). Mark: Your Moncada ranking is interesting as I figured he would be a shoe in for the #1 spot just based off of all the hype I've read about him and him being Minor League Player of the Year. Granted ranking him 17 isn't anything to sneeze at but from the write up it sounds like you're very concerned with his swing and miss. Obviously there have been former #1 prospects that were busts (like Delmon Young) how would you rank Moncada's bust potential? KLaw: Minor League Player of the Year doesn't affect my opinion of a player - it's just a vote. I think the swing itself leads to swing and miss and a major hole that he's going to struggle to close. Any other Busts at Number 1 besides D. Young?
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QUOTE (bmags @ Jan 26, 2017 -> 02:22 PM) Probably not but remember Adolfo was top ten last year. And, that was a bad call. Danish deserved to be in the Top 10 at one time; Adolfo never did.
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Teams have upped their offers in Q derby in the last week
oldsox replied to Al Lopez's Ghost's topic in Pale Hose Talk
QUOTE (Con te Giolito @ Jan 27, 2017 -> 01:42 AM) Maitan never made much sense to me for the Braves to trade or for the Sox to pick up. Maitan. Don't know much about him, other than what has been posted here in last few weeks. Is he better than Tatis? -
Has anyone dropped faster than Danish?
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Teams have upped their offers in Q derby in the last week
oldsox replied to Al Lopez's Ghost's topic in Pale Hose Talk
QUOTE (steveno89 @ Jan 24, 2017 -> 04:56 PM) Dahl + Hoffman is a start, but significantly more would have to be added to that deal I agree with add in Rodgers and we'd be moving closer to a deal What are you smoking, Steve? Rockies are not going to do that. No way. -
QUOTE (SCCWS @ Jan 23, 2017 -> 06:57 PM) Last year at Charlotte Garcia hit .313 and Peter hit .259 so I am not sure Peter easily beats him out. And Coats hit over .330 with some pop. He gawn.
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Teams have upped their offers in Q derby in the last week
oldsox replied to Al Lopez's Ghost's topic in Pale Hose Talk
QUOTE (iWin4Ron @ Jan 23, 2017 -> 05:37 PM) Jeez, a lot of you guys need to just take a deep breath and let the baseball off season do it's thing. It's been very slow, we have no idea what offers Hahn *really* has on the table right now. I'm not sure, but I highly doubt that most GMs are sitting here working tooth and nail over a trade every single day of the off season. Just let things be, it's still January, only. I think the Freedom of Information Act should apply here. -
Teams have upped their offers in Q derby in the last week
oldsox replied to Al Lopez's Ghost's topic in Pale Hose Talk
QUOTE (soxforlife05 @ Jan 22, 2017 -> 07:03 PM) They were never trading Moncada and Devers together because that creates a hole they can't fill internally at 3B. I'm surprised they didn't offer Frazier with Sale to try to get Devers added. Devers. One thing that always puzzled me on the Boston trade was that if DD insisted on taking Devers off the table, why didn't Sox get them to include another third baseman like Dalbach instead of Diaz, or in addition to Diaz. -
Keith Law Farm System and Player rankings
oldsox replied to ChiliIrishHammock24's topic in FutureSox Board
QUOTE (GreenSox @ Jan 20, 2017 -> 08:51 AM) Number 10 Little depth beyond top 8. Sox prospects generally had bad years last year. Which again stresses point- Sox have to do better with their own drafting, developing and signing internationally for this to work. Padres number 3- quite a recovery after Preller's first year clown show. Hahn helped a little bit with the Tatis/Shields swap. -
Teams have upped their offers in Q derby in the last week
oldsox replied to Al Lopez's Ghost's topic in Pale Hose Talk
QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jan 19, 2017 -> 09:51 PM) We've been hearing this same 'ol stuff out of Colorado since Mark Hampton and Darryl Kile. Those guys were pre-humidor. Q would be great for Rockettes. -
Teams have upped their offers in Q derby in the last week
oldsox replied to Al Lopez's Ghost's topic in Pale Hose Talk
QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Jan 19, 2017 -> 03:06 PM) From all I have seen, its been noted that the Rockies have very little interest in Q because they don't think that his pitching style will play well in their stadium. They had concerns about how the altitude would lessen the break of his curve ball and that he doesn't strike enough guys out to fit what works there. Posturing. -
QUOTE (Sox-35th @ Jan 18, 2017 -> 09:03 PM) Alex Rodriguez was a better SS than Vizquel. He played 3B to be on a winner, but he was an incredible shortstop. Arod and Omar should have been on the same team for years (Seattle). Omar was just coming into his own when Seattle signed Arod, so they traded Omar to Cleveland in what is one of the most one-sided trades of all time. Mariners got some horrible shortstop who lasted one year - can't remember his name - who could neither hit or field, and Omar went on to a fabulous career. Joey Cora was the guy who filled in at SS before Arod took over in 1995, I believe. Omar was tremendous, and he broke Aparicio's record for most games played at Short. He needs to be in the Hall.
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QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jan 19, 2017 -> 11:12 AM) I always viewed his combination of defensive and offensive ability as putting him amongst the elite at the game. I thought he had a run where he was the best CFer in baseball (after Griffey went to Cincy). I remember when Bobby Cox pulled A Jones out of centerfield in the middle of an inning for dogging it on three separate plays in one game. Cox had seen enough.