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QUOTE (lasttriptotulsa @ Aug 11, 2014 -> 09:10 PM) No. Uribe's throw was perfect. Head high on the money. Saw your link. As I said, perfect throw. For almost 9 years now I thought PK dug it out of the dirt. Thanks.

don't think so. not important now.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 11, 2014 -> 10:49 AM) Great post. But I can. I will never utter a bad word about Paul Konerko, even if he is slow as an ox, he is and was an amazing White Sox baseball player. I'll never forget his effortless scoops on defense at first and his turning on pitches. WOW. one of which was the last out in the 2005 WS, scooping up a low throw from Uribe. Routine.

Plus, it was the owner's decision. I'm good with it. If anything, I wish he would have been used more this year.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Aug 10, 2014 -> 10:23 PM) Sox drafted 23rd. Angels 24th. So 23 other teams made mistakes too. Not exactly the same mistake; Sox only team to draft Mitchell instead of Trout. Some of the other 22 teams probably drafted a pretty good baseball player; Sox got a football player. Just meaningless hindsight blabber now. Mitchell looked pretty good for a year or two. It would be interesting to see those first round picks if you have the link. Was Mitchell a surprise pick that year? Can't remember.

Put Danks in the pen.

QUOTE (Timmy U @ Aug 10, 2014 -> 01:19 PM) I understand that it is totally foolish, but I haven't 100% given up on Mitchell yet. He is striking out less. If he puts the ball in play, he has a chance of being a DeAza type with better defense. Still not worth drafting ahead of Trout, but not a release candidate right now IMHO. really?

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Aug 9, 2014 -> 12:19 AM) Micker 3-5 with 2 doubles. Atta boy. He might be the real deal. He had a tough start, something like 1 for his first 10. Hope he plays every game from here on.

Even Olbermann of ESPN mentioned Turner last night, making him sound like the second coming.

QUOTE (BaconOnAStick @ Aug 8, 2014 -> 07:01 PM) He's a free agent after next season, the Braves may not be interested in paying him. Who knows. Heyward?? A bit overrated/overpaid.. I would rather continue rolling the dice with Avi.

On the subject of minor league defense, there are some factors that contribute to bad defensive stats: 1. Young players whose skills are improving 2. Minor league coaches. 3. Minor league infields. 4. And lastly, minor league official scorers.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Aug 7, 2014 -> 06:33 PM) Where did you have Hawkins after the year he had last year? Hawkins has rebounded a little bit this year. This is Davidson's first bad year in 6 minor league seasons and a brief MLB stint. You're right about Hawkins. He has rebounded a little bit, as you said. He's hitting around .250, not as many strikeouts, decent extra base hit numbers, good speed, -- he has improved. It'll be interesting to see how he handles AA next year. I don't know what that has to do with my placing Davidson in the bottom half of the top 25. But you said it -- 6, count 'em 6 seasons in pro ball. That's a lot of experience to have this bad of a year. It's not out of the question to see both Davidson and Ravelo as teammates next year at Charlotte. Who do you think will have better numbers? I say Ravelo, who is younger and a better prospect IMO.

Pretty good rankings right down the line -- except for one guy. Davidson. I just don't understand why he is ranked so high after the year he had, like it doesn't count. I can see somewhere in the bottom half of the top 25, but not #7.

QUOTE (Jake @ Aug 6, 2014 -> 11:52 AM) You are way, way, way too low on Marcus Semien. A year ago I would have agreed with you. I think he is pegged correctly.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Aug 6, 2014 -> 01:57 PM) That's just silly. The manager should not be able to stall the umpire until his dugout gives him answer. Once you go out there, it's a challenge. That would be a good rule change.

Cargo had a similar play in Denver 3-4 years ago -- running right into a post at full speed. Cargo was hurt pretty bad, Wrist, I believe.

Rodon, Brewster, Peter......all at W-S.

QUOTE (Jake @ Aug 5, 2014 -> 08:16 PM) Interesting to me that Davidson has walked 7 times in the past 6 games. It's not like he's done anything else well, but it seems less than coincidental that he'd have a collection of walks like that. He'd only had 6 walks in his past 20 games before that. I'm just looking for signs that he's working on something up there. Keep looking. His best year stat-wise was 2010 with South Bend in LowA where he hit .289/16/79/.371/.504.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Aug 5, 2014 -> 07:11 PM) To be frank, given where we are at in the season, if he's healthy and able to play at AAA, then once we think his timing is back and he's capable, its time for him to play with the big league club. without question

QUOTE (Soxfest @ Aug 5, 2014 -> 07:52 PM) Danks does not deserve a spot in the 2015 rotation only reason he will is his contract. Danks ability is just about at DFA level. Kenny Williams likes him.

Much has been said here recently about the 2014 pitching staff. It needs help next year. Free Agency will be discussed in off season, but you can't count on that as a savior for next year. Even though most of Sox better pitching prospects are in lower minors (W-S on down) there are several at Charlotte and Birminghame who will probably be given serious consideration sometime in 2015. Alphabetically, they include Bassitt, Beck, Blough, Bucciferro, Casey, Fuentes, Recchia, Snodgrass, Vance. The following roster pitchers probably don't figure to be in the mix Belisario, Guerra, Jones, Lindstrom, Paulino, Rienzo, Surkamp, Thompson. I didn't include Rodon, only because he is still at W-S. I don't know where I'm going with this, just looking for some positive comments on Sox pitching next year.

Wilkins, for openers.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 4, 2014 -> 05:50 PM) I'm sure not seeing anything like that. It seems like the more hind was sighted, the more opinion changed. I remember one guy who has been against this from day one and that is Oldsox who mentions it with every single blown save. Not exactly true, Southsider. I have been more likely to opine when you and your buddy support the trade ad nauseum and/or point out how flawed Reed is, or when you put Davidson near the head of Sox prospect list. I am not in the habit or originating threads on the subject, but I do respond. If Peticka or anyone else comes in and blows a save this week, I don't plan on coming to Soxtalk and bring up Reed. But since you asked, I'm done with the subject.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Aug 3, 2014 -> 08:22 PM) Even if Matt Davidson never plays a single game for the White Sox, that still can't be considered a bad trade. As a rebuilding team that is not contending, you can get a top 100 prospect for a mediocre closer? You make that trade every single time. Well, we disagree here, Hurt. First, Reed is not just a mediocre closer. 40 saves last year, 26 so far this year. He is a solid right handed relief pitcher who has paid his dues. He might not be an all star, but he is not exactly a hobo who just showed up on your street corner either. He is good enough to make virtually every major league roster, especially the White Sox roster. He is a big step up from mediocre. Second, whoever listed Davidson as a top 100 prospect had a figment in his newton. That rating was a joke. His stats this year prove it. Third, with the emergence of Abreu, Eaton, and Gilaspie and the improved play of Alexei and the continued excellence of Sale and Q, this perhaps could have been a (wild card) contending team. Reed would have helped. As Dick Allen said, Bad Trade.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Aug 3, 2014 -> 08:47 PM) Yup, people love ripping the trade in hindsight, but no one knew Conor Gillaspie would be this good. At the time getting a top 100 prospect that played 3B for an average at best closer was the right move. Our organization was preparing to retool with a small chance of winning in 2014 and had nothing in our system to help us anytime soon at the position. While I agree with Dick Allen that some posters hyped up his Reno stats way too much, he's still an incredibly talented prospect and had to the ability to be an above average contributor at a major position of need for us. The trade was a no-brainer regardless if Davidson develops or not. No hindsight here. On the original thread announcing the trade, I said I didn't like it (day after the trade cuz I wanted to think about it before posting). As I posted elsewhere, I called a couple of pals in Phoenix who follow the Dbacks and asked them about it, and they said the team did not like Davidson after a significant cup of coffee, blah blah blah. I was quickly criticized, and I don't know if anyone else here agreed with me or not. Now some do.