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QUOTE (scenario @ Jul 12, 2012 -> 12:38 PM) http://www.lajollalight.com/2012/07/10/la-...cago-white-sox/ I'd rather be in Santa Barbara.

I don't understand having Chris Beck waaay ahead of Heidenreich. Same age, one a second rounder, the other a fourth, Beck getting pretty much lit up at Great Falls, Heidenreich solid now at High A (combined 101 innings/3.38 ERA/.244 BAA/pitching against older players). Seems like Beck is annoited hhis status.

QUOTE (mataipaepae @ Jul 11, 2012 -> 03:05 PM) I'm also exited about barnum as I think he is the future at first base. You say this after 5 games with Bristol?

Everyone ignores Ryan Kussmaul. Three years in the system, moving right up the ladder from Kanny to Dash to Barons. Always solid numbers, low hits per inning, lots of K's. He'll be at Charlotte next year and will prob do well. He gets people out. If Petrika or Johnson or Soptic had his numbers even at lower levels, you would have them ready for HOF indoctrination.

How did Cowley compare to Marriotti? I never read much of Cowley's stuff.

Was Osvaldo on the 40 man? I should have checked before the roster got updated.

QUOTE (LVSoxFan @ Jul 10, 2012 -> 10:13 AM) ESPN can suck it. When they're not busy fellating the BoSox or Yankees, they look at the central and only see the Tigers. Which honestly is fine with me. "Fellating"?? Does that mean what I think it does? I have never seen that one before, hope you don't sue me if I use it.

QUOTE (Wedge @ Jul 8, 2012 -> 06:40 PM) Name that movie: "We came! We saw! We kicked its ass!" Ghostbusters

Osvaldo was maybe the greatest player to come from Porterville Community College.

Please do not trade either Reed or the New Q.

QUOTE (Stan Bahnsen @ Jul 9, 2012 -> 11:25 AM) Paulie seems older cause he's been about the slowest player in baseball for going on ten years. Not the slowest Sox ever. Harold Baines, at the end of his career, ran at a grandmotherly pace.

If Dunn comes to the plate late in game with men on in close game and he hits a double to left, everyone on this board would be singing his praises.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 8, 2012 -> 04:48 PM) To clarify on the terrible loss comment, I thought it was a great effort by the entire team today. Unfortunately, it seemed they had to overcome a terrible strategy with Axelrod. Still thrilled with where things stand, and I hope everyone enjoys the break This was one of Hawk's 42 games that could have gone either way. Not one of Robin's better games.

Anybody here follow the Boston papers? Pretty soon we'll be talking about signing him for 2013.

All but 3-4 teams passed on him.

Dunn will strike out in the Home run Derby.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jul 6, 2012 -> 10:44 AM) Quintana was barely on the charts in our pre-season list (in the "others" list), so yeah, Heidenreich today is probably more highly considered than Quintana was then. You do sometimes end up with a bolt from the blue, or organizations see something in a specific pitcher or player that we don't see in stats, scouting reports, info leaking from the organization in some form, and videos. Heidenreich might be that guy. But Hiedenreich isn't really "doing well in AA" yet - he pitched one game. Need to have a lot more sample size than that to really see something. And if you want to look granularly at that particular outing, look at his line in the box: he pitched 8 innings of 6 hit ball, which is good... but he gave up a home run and struck out 2. Some in some ways, that is a mircocosm of both the strengths and weaknesses he has shown so far. Let's look at scenarios here. If Matt manages to not only be successful in terms of core stats, but also increases his strikeouts, I can see him quickly jumping up into the rankings on the offseason list. If he gets decent core results but still isn't missing many bats, he will probably show up on the list, but not real high. If he struggles, then it is a "we'll see" scenario. That's my view anyway. And that's just the stat component - more important, and info harder to find, is, has he improved his secondary stuff? This is all very, very subjective of course. And there is a balance between ceiling, likely impact, and likely floor. And between starters and relievers. And what level they've shown success at, including in some cases major leagues. Look at some of the pitchers that some see as better, and decide if you see him higher on the list: Simon Castro, Nestor Molina, Dylan Axelrod, Pedro Hernandez, Charlie Leesman, Chris Beck, Andre Rienzo, Jake Petricka, Erik Johnson, Leyson Septimo, Jeff Soptic, Jefferson Olacio... the list goes on, and those are just pitchers. Does a guy like Septimo, who is a specialist reliever, have more value since he's shown success at all levels and now (so far) in the majors? Versus a starter like Heidenreich, but who is a much bigger question of whether he can even make it? You have given a lot of interesting thoughts here, much appreciated. All of those prospects you mentioned in your final paragraph have one thing in common with Heidenreich -- I have not seen them. Well actually, I have seen Axelrod and Septimo on TV since they were called up. I would have to give an edge over MH to both Axlerod and Leesman -- seniority, if nothing else, and they have performed well at AAA and in Axelrod's case with the Sox. Today, I would rate MH over the rest of them. We'll probably know a lot more at end of year, certainly by next year at this time. Meanwhile, I was looking for your most recent Prospect List but could not find it in archives. Are you able to show it here? Thanks...

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jul 6, 2012 -> 08:44 AM) He's not, nor even close. Age vs level is very kind to Heidenreich, and he is having a nice season. Control has been excellent all year. But he doesn't miss many bats, gives up a lot of home runs, and his secondary stuff is average or below (and a low 90's sinking fastball by itself won't project well). Definitely a guy to watch, but he needs to improve his secondary stuff and strike out more batters to be considered, say, a Top 10 prospect in this system. Wow! Not top ten? I'm surprised. First, I respect your opinion, having read many of your posts over the years. And. of course, I have never seen him with my own eyes. All I have to go on is his record and recent box scores. Maybe I put more emphasis on age than I should, but to me that is part of the definition of a 'prospect'. He is 21, signed out of high school, etc. and now he is doing well in AA. He certainly appears to be improving, also part of the definition. I might not put enough emphasis on hits per innings, but I'm sure that as he advances in the system, he will get better defenses behind him, eliminating many hits allowed. I'm sure he has better defenses in W-S and B'ham than he had at Kanny last year. Of course, the hitters are better, too, I know. In 2011 he gave up 174 hits in 154 innings, but that's a lot of innings for a 20 year old, previous high being half that. He is probably higher ranked now than Quintana was a year ago, and he (JQ) has been off the charts since joining the Sox. Anyway, I'm pulling for him to do well.

Heidenreich has to be at or very near the top of our revised prospect list.

I'm sure we will see Frasor over the weekend.

Probably nobody cares, but I was surprised to see that former Sox no field, no hit infielder Jayson Nix has surfaced with the Yankees. Geez, what's the world coming to?

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 4, 2012 -> 07:15 PM) Why do those two fans keep waving at the camera? Don't they realize people watching on TV hate that? Idiot fans will always wave to the camera until one of them gets pistol whipped on live TV.

QUOTE (JPN366 @ Jul 3, 2012 -> 10:20 AM) For some reason, Jeremy Dowdy is being promoted to Winston-Salem. Saw his stats at Rookie League. 21 years old, don't know where we got him? Anyone know?

QUOTE (scenario @ Jul 3, 2012 -> 07:37 PM) Eric Grabe had an 8-game hitting streak coming into tonight's game. So far on the season batting .371 (13 hits in 35 ABs). Grabe is the draftee whose father is a member of SoxTalk. Gotta pull for him.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 4, 2012 -> 07:40 AM) Frank might have had 2x that many had there not been 4-5 other 1b who were loaded up on synthetic testosterone. Could youii name a few of those please? Not arguing, just interested.