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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 22, 2011 -> 09:21 AM) I asked this the other day, but got no answer... what is the biggest contract anyone has just given up on as an organization? Someone answered... Russ Ortiz, D-Backs.

QUOTE (Real @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 10:56 AM) one person mentions colby rasmus and all of the sudden the entire board, most which had little to no idea who Rasmus even WAS goes apes***, lol group think mob mentality here at Soxtalk Does that include you??

QUOTE (Kalapse @ Jul 26, 2011 -> 03:05 PM) What Aramis and his agent would be looking at is this offseason's free agent market, the thirdbase options consist of Aramis Ramirez and Aramis Ramirez. It's bone dry. And with him being one of 5 3B with an .800+ OPS this season, 3 with an .850+ and 3 with a .360+ wOBA. He's the only option on the free agent market at a position that's seen a precipitous -- if not anomalistic -- drop in offensive production this season. Aramis doesn't strike me as the kind of player willing to bet on himself by taking good guaranteed cash up front and putting off free agency another year risking a down season and a poor return in free agency as opposed to going for the multi-year deal in a weak market. I could see him getting $30M fairly easily, all it takes is one team and that team is typically out there year in and year out. ......anomolistic?

Sox had good crowd last night. Maybe a repeat with Verlander throwing?

QUOTE (TitoMB @ Jul 25, 2011 -> 04:36 PM) So K-dub has a week to trade Viciedo. Where do you guys think he ends up? I'm just as worried that he'll trade Addison Reed.

QUOTE (The Baconator @ Jul 25, 2011 -> 07:50 PM) It sounds like the crowd is booing Adam mid-AB on both strikes he took. I don't boo him myself but I understand why many people do after he gets out. But booing mid-AB is just beyond ridiculous. That's hating just to hate. I know the whole "he's a big-leaguer, he should be stronger than being affected by the crowd" but this is getting ridiculous. Let the guy play - he's here for the long haul so why go out of your way to boo him? I outgrew booing when I was about 10.

QUOTE (Real @ Jul 24, 2011 -> 07:06 PM) the renowned triangle theory that seems to always pop up in Boxing, lol Pops up in other sports, too. e.g. Years ago, when I followed the NBA, there were three really good point guards in the West: Gary Payton, Nick van Exel, and John Stockton. Van Exel would eat up Stockton, Stockton would dominate Payton, and Payton would chew up Van Exel. It went on for 2-3 yrs, never could understand it.

Does his contract expire this year?

QUOTE (prospectguy @ Jul 25, 2011 -> 12:21 PM) Just a quick preview if you want to check it out. http://detroitbaseballpage.com/tiger-headl...ite-sox-preview Read the rest of that blogger for reports on Detroit farm system and their predicted trade of Rios, Short, Morel and Quentin for Soriono, Fukedome and Aramis R.

QUOTE (chw42 @ Jul 25, 2011 -> 12:27 PM) Everybody on that Pirates staff is having a good year one way or another. It's about time too. That organization's luck has finally turned around. Clint Hurdle is a lot of good things.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 24, 2011 -> 03:37 PM) Kei Igawa has to be up there, although technically not eaten. He is being paid $20 million over 5 years and his posting fee was $26 million. He is pitching in AAA and the Yankees have told him for a few years there is no way they will call him up, even tried to trade him back to Japan a couple of times and he refused, so for 16 pitiful outings, they shelled out $46 million. The current record for most money eaten by a team by releasing a contract is $33 million, which the Diamondbacks swallowed when they released pitcher Russ Ortiz in June of 2006. Kudos, Dick Allen. Good info.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 24, 2011 -> 09:45 AM) Yep. I have asked this a few times, and I am guessing by the lack of responses that it never has been done on this level, but what the biggest contract a team has ate completely like this? My guess without looking it up would be Kevin Brown of Yankees.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jul 24, 2011 -> 09:18 AM) That other laughing sound is the entire league(save the Yankees) laughing at your idea of just DFA-ing Rios and eating the contract. No, they're laughing at the thought of White Sox stuck with playing Rios every day for the next 3++ seasons and NOT eating his contract.

Has Kenny Williams formally adopted Wes Whisler?

Once a player has so much big league service time, he cannot be sent to minors without his permission. Same thing as DFA, and Sox owe balance of contract, which is okay by me. Then, maybe Jerry R would have the ovaries to go public with what he really thinks of Kenny. Might as well do it with both Rios and Dunn, have a big party. At least if you cut Dunn, you don't have to feed him anymore. That laughing sound you hear is from the Toronto front office. Maybe a giggle or two from Wahington's front office, because they got a #1 draft pick out of it. Don't know about Dunn's agent.

QUOTE (lostfan @ Jul 23, 2011 -> 10:39 AM) In a postgame interview once Deion Sanders (who is kind of a dumbass) said that Jay Cutler is 18-0 when his QB rating is over 100 and then asked Brian Urlacher if he's ever pulled Cutler to the side and said "come on!" As stupid as that question is to ask a linebacker (does anybody really think Cutler or any other QB has games with his rating under 100 on purpose?) Urlacher's response was "that's not my job, I've got enough to worry about keeping the defense in line." Didn't talk out of turn, didn't create any controversy about him dissing his QB, none of that. Easy, too... Urlacher is also kind of a dick. My favorite Dijon Sanders moment was that incident with Tim McCarver on live TV back in the 90's. What an idiot.

Kevan Smith did not play....Is he moving up?

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jul 23, 2011 -> 01:11 AM) Sending down a player who can play 4-6 different positions, depending on how you view him at SS and 3B, who has a bit of pop in his bat and hustles his ass off sounds like the exact type of move that is going to spark a team to a division clinching run. Lillibridge is out of options anyways and he's too valuable as a member of the bench to be outrighted. He's not going to go anywhere. I love it when Lillibridge is the subject of a debate. Kinda like our politicians talking about the price of a stamp when the govt might get shut down. He is not going to make a big difference, but, since you commented, just let me say that Lilli does not play much SS or 3B any more, he is almost strictly an OF; I haven't seen any pop in his bat recently; I still remember his sleepwalking play in CF (which I promised not to mention again). Now, if Kenny releases Omar, it changes everything. We need to find some offensive contribution in CF without sacrificing too much defense, and DeAza fills that bill and Lilli does not.

When was last time Morel hit a line drive? I did not see his hit the other day.

...Can't help wondering. what would Giants give us for AJ?

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jul 22, 2011 -> 11:31 AM) You really want us to sell huh? Yes, particularly if it opens up a spot for Viciedo.

QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Jul 21, 2011 -> 08:33 PM) Semien went 2/5. Viciedo is 1/4 with 1 BB. 10 BB in his last 11 games. Without seeing his games, teams are prob pitching away from him, and would not be surprised if he has chased a few bad pitches as a result.

QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Jul 22, 2011 -> 09:24 AM) I wouldn't be sending Lilli down or trading him. He is needed in the role he plays and he has done well. You send down or trade non-performers Lillibridge's stats are skewed because he had a few good games early. Nothing lately, while DeAza has played very well in AAA. Admitedly, I am still annoyed by his (Lilli) sleep walking play in Colorado, but it is also time to get over it, so I will. We can't send down our non performers (Dunn/Rios). On the surface, a Lillibridge/DeAza switch should not be significant, but the team is playing with such little pizzazz, maybe DeAza could provide some spark. Why shouldn't DeAza be rewarded?

QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Jul 21, 2011 -> 10:58 AM) AAA numbers don't always translate into a succesful major league career, but I am almost ready to try anything. De Aza certainly gives his all from what I picked up from Spring Training. Viciedo too. Maybe the infusion of those two fellows would jump start the team offesne, but heaven forbid if they struggled for a couple weeks getting their feet wet in the bigs. Who goes down or who gets released or traded? Morel down and maybe our non-existent DH to the injury list? Send Lillibridge down.

QUOTE (lasttriptotulsa @ Jul 21, 2011 -> 09:04 AM) What are they gonna do about it? If he wants to retire, he can retire. Sure, he CAN retire. But if he retires with $42 MM left on a guaranteed contract, the MLPA would be all over Dunn like white on rice, saying that he owes it to other to take the money, yadda, yadda.